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I don't see why not but I figured as much.Layered stealth Mastery isn't a thing.
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I don't see why not but I figured as much.Layered stealth Mastery isn't a thing.
Is Layered Martial Arts a thing?I don't see why not
They don't work like stealth mastery, not a good comparison. I guess its just better considered esp resistIs Layered Martial Arts a thing?
How about Layered Superhuman Physical Characteristics?
Oh oh, how about layered Genius Intelligence?
Stealth Mastery is just "I'm skilled at being stealthy". Martial Arts and Genius Intelligence are apt comparisons.They don't work like stealth mastery, not a good comparison. I guess its just better considered esp resist
not when they involve supernatural stuffStealth Mastery is just "I'm skilled at being stealthy". Martial Arts and Genius Intelligence are apt comparisons.
Bruh, whatever happens in any timeline has no effect on other timelines. There's no way Zeno's hitting 5-D anything. I would know; I've watched Super until the end.Hakai is what 3-D/4-D?
Zeno's EE is 5D, this already eliminates the possibilities of layers since the guys are receiving higher dimensional EE.
You misunderstand. The individual timelines are 5-D and Zeno can erase entire timelines.Bruh, whatever happens in any timeline has no effect on other timelines. There's no way Zeno's hitting 5-D anything.
Zeno's EE is 5-D, which is why he is Low 1-C in profile, exclusively because of his EE.Bruh, whatever happens in any timeline has no effect on other timelines. There's no way Zeno's hitting 5-D anything. I would know; I've watched Super until the end.
It's very weird to me how needing to travel an infinite distance to reach the main nexus is like, the entire basis of infinite layers, yet there's no evidence of that actually being the case.The infinite layers come from how the heart of the demon world functions and how distance affects the power of the demonic energy it "radiates". Depending on how much closer or farther you are you will feel more or less (or in the case of the normal demon population then it is the "normal" amount of demonic power) of it's overwhelming strength. In the novel some normal demonic soldiers can barely walk towards it while some others like the strongest demons can almost reach the Heart, then you have those on the demon king tiers who can basically waltz around like they were walking in the park on a cold night with good music.
where did ya get 7 from?@Tony_di_bugalu Yeah no I already discussed this with you and I'm not seeing infinite layers here. It's a massive stretch, the whole "some groups collapsed while other demons persevered but the stronger demon energy affecting the stronger demon kings I can see for layered hax, but not infinite, so that would be like 7 layers for DMC from what I'm seeing.
That's literally the point of the blog, to prove that more demonic power will bypass your resistances.the bottom scaling chain listed in the blog, if you have some actual scaling chain to work with the whole "more demonic juice means the hax can affect those with resistances" then that's a start.
Reinhard's Soul Hax Resistance is +1 layer yes. The only Soul Hax that is +2 Layers is Sirius', which can overpower Reinhard's resistance.I'm only seeing one layer for reinhard's soul hax stuff, you just posted the same exact scan for resistance to justify 2 layers when it's at best just one. Same with the other stuff, I'm only seeing one layer here.
Sirius is +2 not Reinhard@SatellaTheWoE I'm only seeing one layer for reinhard's soul hax stuff, you just posted the same exact scan for resistance to justify 2 layers when it's at best just one. Same with the other stuff, I'm only seeing one layer here.
Need to re-evaluate for some change of this blogKamen Rider Zi-O Haxes and Resistance Explanation Blog
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You forgot this :
Oh, and one more thing
So.... every magic and skill at base also has Subjective Reality/Reality Warping other than law manip
So can the layers apply to subjective reality as well?
And if you don't have enough time to look through all the bundle of scans on each link, here are the specific scans :
Magic : Brings user's imagination into reality, turning non-physical phenomenon into real life, which works by adding your wish into magicules before casting it
Skills : The physical manifestation of user's desires that turns these desires into reality merely by wishing it
It's part of his page as justification– him being able to temporarily withstand it's effects before it overwhelms him (most people instantly fall to it)– but the first part of his justification is:that's literally the same scan being used for his first layer resistance though, I'm not seeing anything higher for that.
Julius' ability:Mind Manipulation, Empathic Manipulation, Soul Manipulation, and Fear Manipulation (No curses, debuffs, or buffs can affect him, thus resists these abilities from Beatrice and Julius.
Beatrice's ability:Soul Manipulation & Mind Manipulation (Al Clarista can attack the soul itself[4]. Damage to the soul, also damages the mind[10], as the mental has been[10] equated to the spiritual[11])
Mind Manipulation & Empathic Manipulation (El Shamak can rob a target of their very thoughts[15] and their fighting strength[16] itself)
Soul Manipulation & Mind Manipulation (His curse rings work on the soul itself[2]. Damage to the soul, also damages the mind[5], as the mental has been[5] equated to the spiritual[6])
Allow me to further elaborate. (Please give it a thorough read and notify me if you disagree with any point or if you need citations for anything. It would help me correct it)snip
Alot of characters could do the same though RE or supernatural willpower.1) Their RE can adapt to layered hax and also gain layers as well.
Give Goku and Saitama infinite layers2) Its also said to have infinite growth and evolution which implies it does not necessarily cap at a certain level.
I can get scans for almost everything there tho, I just mixed the hierarchies to make it clearer cuz otherwise they are pretty independent of the other.@Tony_di_bugalu I disagree with the infinite layers stuff, also idk why you just copied the same message you made but ok.
Trim down that list with folks we have actual solid information on there being more demonic energy and I can kinda see the layers, having the low and mid tiers be like that looks like a stretch to add layers unless we have some more solid info like King Cerberus being blatantly above Berial and DMC 3 Cerberus.
That is trueAlot of characters could do the same though RE or supernatural willpower.
I am not arguing for infinite layers. No one in this verse even has infinite layers regardless.Give Goku and Saitama infinite layers
What about ignoring offscreen feats ?I am saying it does not necessarily stop at x or y levels
If the several times doesn't serve as a multiply of layer then I guess it'll be: Keiji (baseline) < Ora, Heure, Daiki (1 layer) < Swartz (2 layers) < Tsukuyomi (3 layers) < Oma Zi-O (4 layers)@Omazio2019 The several times I already talked about that not counting for numerous layers there, and your EE scans aren't loading for me.
Julius's Soul Manipulation, and Mind Manipulation (Can attack the soul itself[2]. Damage to the soul, also damages the mind[3], as the mental has been[3] equated to the spiritual[4]), <Reinhard resists<Life sword Zeam (works on Reinhard) (+1 layer)<Reinhard resists with a new blessing (+1 layer resistance)@Zabazab can you highlight the part that shows Reinhard resisting layer 1, and getting haxed by a stronger ability? You're repeating points that isn't really tied to my complaints.
he resists the life sword in the life sword scan@SatellaTheWoE stop linking his page and show me the scan that says he resists the life sword zeam. I'm not reading the entire page to find the one thing that mentions his resistance.
If you're not gonna post the scan then I'm not gonna humor you any further.Reinhard resists with a new blessing (+1 layer resistance)
Here. According to the Author, Life Sword would work on him, but he would gain a new Blessing to counter it. He has no idea how to kill Reinhard.Post the scan that remotely implies that, especially with this part of your argument.
If you're not gonna post the scan then I'm not gonna humor you any further.
Just because a skill is much stronger than a passive skill doesn't mean it works passively. Yuuki's anti-skill, like most skills, is activated based on thought.Passive 3 Layers : Yuuki's Anti-Skill is passive
added another scan, I remember coming across a scan[manga panel] where he explained how his anti-skill is passive, but I can't find it rn, will add it as soon as I get it, so changed it to [possibly passive] for now with the addition of new scan and wordingJust because a skill is much stronger than a passive skill doesn't mean it works passively. Yuuki's anti-skill, like most skills, is activated based on thought.
btw the link to scans about Ultima's poison, normal curses and summoner curse on skills and magic page are broken, could you please link it to the ones I gave above? [if you have time]
manga panel
I really can't help right now, you may need to remove that part for now.Ultima's poison, normal curses and summoner curse on skills and magic page are broken, could you please link it to the ones I gave above? [if you have time]
I'll do soIt really seems to work like Hinata's ability so I think the best way to describe it is as a powernull that can be turned on and off thought-based and works passively through contact.
np, I got someone to help, but thanks for tellingI really can't help right now, you may need to remove that part for now.