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  1. Phoenks

    [R2M2] 2nd Crosstier Tournament - Azalea Aculeus vs. Delta (0-0-0)

    Anyway match can't be added since azalea stomps. Sorry guys.
  2. Phoenks

    [R2M2] 2nd Crosstier Tournament - Azalea Aculeus vs. Delta (0-0-0)

    It is on the page, it just isn't super clear. Also it isn't an application of memory manipulation. It's causality manip based on memories. Since memories store the past. Causality manipulation covers it all.
  3. Phoenks

    [R2M2] 2nd Crosstier Tournament - Azalea Aculeus vs. Delta (0-0-0)

    I wonder what his reaction will be to me telling him his character got everyone to quit the tournament
  4. Phoenks

    [R2M2] 2nd Crosstier Tournament - Azalea Aculeus vs. Delta (0-0-0)

    "Azalea can return an object to back its initial state with restoration, essentially undoing any influence that alters said object's state" It's pretty clear cut lol. The only thing that isn't mentioned is what this is based on. Which is memory. "Object" is referring to any target. If she has...
  5. Phoenks

    [R2M2] 2nd Crosstier Tournament - Azalea Aculeus vs. Delta (0-0-0)

    It's causality manipulation based on her thoughts and memories. Essentially, because she has memory of being in a different location, she can restore herself to that location she was in beforehand. The range itself is a non factor. Only her memory which sources the ability matters. So yeah not...
  6. Phoenks

    [R2M2] 2nd Crosstier Tournament - Azalea Aculeus vs. Delta (0-0-0)

    Okay guys I'm not gonna lie Azalea is actually more broken than I thought I just spoke to my dude Nova over the phone and bruh it's so over xD Just gonna spill the main points. Azalea starts with danmaku insane water attacks. He said if the guy tries to teleport acrobatic out of the way...
  7. Phoenks

    1st Bane of Buildings Tournament - R1M7 - Figure vs. Nora Brynhildr (0-0-0)

    I'll get to this match at some point. I kinda wanna talk to my dude Nova for this before I come into the debate this time.
  8. Phoenks

    1st Bane of Buildings Tournament - R1M7 - Figure vs. Nora Brynhildr (0-0-0)

    Blake Belladona is crazy
  9. Phoenks

    [R2M2] 2nd Crosstier Tournament - Azalea Aculeus vs. Delta (0-0-0)

    It is listed as restoration. It links to causality manip. Except it does since it negs the ability. Also she can just Neptune's Gate if space manip even ever becomes a problem and it's GGs. This is hilarious. I haven't ignored any basic logic, you have. I have provided reasons why restore...
  10. Phoenks

    [R2M2] 2nd Crosstier Tournament - Azalea Aculeus vs. Delta (0-0-0)

    Mana needs to take tangible form to be visible. By the time those chains manifest it is over for Delta as his abilities are nullified. I have no clue what you are even saying is contradictory. Minty who admittedly didn't read my arguments. I'm blaming you for not reading and actually going...
  11. Phoenks

    [R2M2] 2nd Crosstier Tournament - Azalea Aculeus vs. Delta (0-0-0)

    Incorrect. Azalea's restoration links to causality manipulation. Also, no you aren't reading. I've said everything I've said like 3 times because you never seem to recall the posts I've already made. It's not though. Causality manip reverses the effect out of existence. That's what it does lol.
  12. Phoenks

    [R2M2] 2nd Crosstier Tournament - Azalea Aculeus vs. Delta (0-0-0)

    Maybe you could have read the argument instead of actually being the one to parrot the stuff I've debunked multiple times throughout the thread. They aren't "still good" because their effects can be immediately causality maniped out of existence. Not trying to be rude but it's annoying when...
  13. Phoenks

    [R2M2] 2nd Crosstier Tournament - Azalea Aculeus vs. Delta (0-0-0)

    I've been saying for the past three pages that Restore makes those abilities useless because it can negate them and their effects on her. And it is spammable. "Not saying a word" is so ridiculous. You guys are reading my arguments and then forgetting them the very next second. I
  14. Phoenks

    [R2M2] 2nd Crosstier Tournament - Azalea Aculeus vs. Delta (0-0-0)

    That was literally never established. Koji has a party, including Azalea, that all fight against the same threats. Which are each typically very highly skilled individuals. It isn't a stretch to say she can use her win-cons effortlessly. That is literally just you grabbing that idea from...
  15. Phoenks

    [R2M2] 2nd Crosstier Tournament - Azalea Aculeus vs. Delta (0-0-0)

    What other ways are you talking about? Teleporting gets nulled the moment those chains manifest. All of his abilities do. Neptune's Gate is not some ability that is escapable. It's not meant to be. That's why it's her ultimate move. As for invisibility. Mana is invisible until it takes a...
  16. Phoenks

    [R2M2] 2nd Crosstier Tournament - Azalea Aculeus vs. Delta (0-0-0)

    Except the quality of Azalea's are also better as I've proven so this statement means nothing. Have you run short on arguments?
  17. Phoenks

    [R2M2] 2nd Crosstier Tournament - Azalea Aculeus vs. Delta (0-0-0)

    Yes since all it picks up is the basic stats and level which are tied to physical attributes rather than magic. Under standard verse equalization it would have no problems here. Yes. H At this point I think you're just trying to annoy me. I've said it three entire times now that Neptune's...
  18. Phoenks

    My Little Pony: Thread of Harmony

    I think Arale stomps lol
  19. Phoenks

    1st Bane of Buildings Tournament - R1M3 - Ghast vs Maki Zenin (0-3-0)

    Ghast in this tournament is crazy. Maki slams via sheer skill alone and Ghast only has one, easily dodgeable attack 💀
  20. Phoenks

    [R2M2] 2nd Crosstier Tournament - Azalea Aculeus vs. Delta (0-0-0)

    Furthermore, as I mentioned before Azalea does have the ability to see how strong her opponent relatively is via the Observe skill. So if she knows she is fighting a 3-A there is no reason for her to hold back from the best options at the time.
  21. Phoenks

    [R2M2] 2nd Crosstier Tournament - Azalea Aculeus vs. Delta (0-0-0)

    This is irrelevant for Azalea because all of her options are equally deadly, some are just more deadly than others. For you it matters way more since you only have one win condition.
  22. Phoenks

    [R2M2] 2nd Crosstier Tournament - Azalea Aculeus vs. Delta (0-0-0)

    If Azalea and Delta have comparable skill, and I mentioned before that Azalea has fought people with the same exact mobility options, then why in the world wouldn't she be able to hit him in this "10 second" timeframe. That makes no logical sense. As for what is more likely, I would need to ask...
  23. Phoenks

    The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"

    You had months!
  24. Phoenks

    [R2M2] 2nd Crosstier Tournament - Azalea Aculeus vs. Delta (0-0-0)

    Ample time? Like what? Azalea winning relies that she hits any attack I mentioned. Or just uses Neptune's Gate at the start. Or even just uses Neptune's Gate the instant that she is teleported. Doesn't require ample time whatsoever lol. What's unlikely is Azalea not hitting any attack and just...
  25. Phoenks

    Invincible TV Show: AP/Speed Revisions, Black Hole and Tier 4 feats.

    That's not something that should be noted in the tier, though. That should just be noted as his tactics/weaknesses. Like at that point you'd have to do the same for all characters like this, such as Saitama. Seems tedious and also very weird considering "holding back" can vary a lot. Holding...
  26. Phoenks

    Invincible TV Show: AP/Speed Revisions, Black Hole and Tier 4 feats.

    Why would we give Mark a holding back tier? That doesn't make much sense and I don't think we do such things. Like I gave a Saitama example earlier. We rate people based on their peak, not their holding back states since that isn't really their true attack potency. How would you even hold...
  27. Phoenks

    Invincible TV Show: AP/Speed Revisions, Black Hole and Tier 4 feats.

    ??? I seriously don't know how you get the conclusion of durability negation/had from that scene lmao. It's just a powerful beam of energy. Nothing suggests otherwise. What do you think of the Mark scaling
  28. Phoenks

    [R2M2] 2nd Crosstier Tournament - Azalea Aculeus vs. Delta (0-0-0)

    This isn't true and this is the crux of the reason why I don't like this debate. These aren't comparable statements. Saying someone is "unhittable" with no further elaborate is NLF as you don't know the limits or basis of the statement. Saying someone is skilled enough to acrobat around...
  29. Phoenks

    [R2M2] 2nd Crosstier Tournament - Azalea Aculeus vs. Delta (0-0-0)

    5x beats several and worse case scenario Azalea just ties their stats using Hold your head high. By what logic? I said being unhittable is NLF. You have to be more specific than that for it to mean anything. Who considers them unhittable? Why is that important or valuable to the conversation...
  30. Phoenks

    [R2M2] 2nd Crosstier Tournament - Azalea Aculeus vs. Delta (0-0-0)

    I at this point in the match have countered every single point brought up though. I am not sure what you mean by this. Also, you haven't been generous to Azalea at all. Donno how many times I have to mentioned this but you are voting that Azalea never lands a single hit on Delta which is...
  31. Phoenks

    [R2M2] 2nd Crosstier Tournament - Azalea Aculeus vs. Delta (0-0-0)

    You never even went into how it would be faster than azalea. It seems of be an unquantifiable amp which is worse than a stated 5x amp. Azalea not being as skilled as other parts of her team doesn't mean much for Delta though. The fact that she has dealt with skilled opponents is what matters...
  32. Phoenks

    [R2M2] 2nd Crosstier Tournament - Azalea Aculeus vs. Delta (0-0-0)

    It's magic and Delta lacks NPI. This is self explanatory. Idk either. I didn't make the page. Azalea being referred to as slacking in offense arsenal is in comparison to other characters in the Ark Collection and her team. Mind you, the offensive people on her team can cut time itself, sever...
  33. Phoenks

    [R2M2] 2nd Crosstier Tournament - Azalea Aculeus vs. Delta (0-0-0)

    Ray fire you've made multiple of the same errors again. I've explained these abilities to you so many times it's becoming tiresome to have to go in again and explain them. Like I literally told you that Neptune's Gate is not something you can physically break free from. So I don't know why you...
  34. Phoenks

    Invincible TV Show: AP/Speed Revisions, Black Hole and Tier 4 feats.

    Why is bro tweaking? Anyway from what I see the series tends to treat all the Viltrumites as being relatively relative to one another. Like they can all kinda fight with each other but there are clearly those that are way stronger or way weaker still. In a way it kinda mimics an actual...
  35. Phoenks

    [R2M2] 2nd Crosstier Tournament - Azalea Aculeus vs. Delta (0-0-0)

    I will reiterate again that every point you made as to him defending against Azalea requires you to be incredibly generous to him while pretty much disregarding Azalea's own merit. If you agree Azalea is more skilled, has fought people with the same abilities, and has landed hits on people with...
  36. Phoenks

    [R2M2] 2nd Crosstier Tournament - Azalea Aculeus vs. Delta (0-0-0)

    Not true. Just because something is still being debated doesn't mean that something hasn't been disproven. Just because Flat Earthers continue to believe in flat earth, it doesn't mean they haven't constantly been disproven, for example. Except I've given multiple ways for her to A. End the...
  37. Phoenks

    [R2M2] 2nd Crosstier Tournament - Azalea Aculeus vs. Delta (0-0-0)

    I am basing my argumentation on stuff the author has said as well as the archives I still have of her storylines. I also know a lot about the verse since... I made it. It's not the same as what I feel some others are doing on this thread. I wish you were more involved in the debate since this...
  38. Phoenks

    [R2M2] 2nd Crosstier Tournament - Azalea Aculeus vs. Delta (0-0-0)

    Which is precisely why she would know when she needs to use her trump cards. She has experience. This is literally an advantage for her you are pointing out. Stop making assumptions about characters. It is getting extremely annoying. You've been doing this for both Azalea and Delta and it has...
  39. Phoenks

    [R2M2] 2nd Crosstier Tournament - Azalea Aculeus vs. Delta (0-0-0)

    A vacuum in the middle of nowhere ? Obviously that is a dangerous situation. If I was suddenly teleported into deep space I would think it was the end. It's not like it's an impulse for Delta to use all his best moves simultaneously to obtain his only win condition out of the millions of Azalea...
  40. Phoenks

    [R2M2] 2nd Crosstier Tournament - Azalea Aculeus vs. Delta (0-0-0)

    Yes. It poses no risk to her and especially if she is in a clear situation that she has no way out from (Quiet Tomb), it would be the most useful option for her in that moment to end the fight. Again, she resist deconstruction to an immensely higher level via arkane physiology. And this whole...
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