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Currently, the top-tiers are listed as FTL. I believe this contradicts in-universe statements, rules, and WoG. I have discussed this before, but I can now format it better.
Currently, the arguments for FTL Homestuck characters goes as follows:
First, statements against lightspeed characters (from in-universe people and WoG).
"ROSE: Just as you should trust me that by the time we leave, if we leave exactly within the designated window and are able to travel at nearly the speed of light, the meteor will trace a route through the Furthest Ring which will topologically resolve as a straight line."
This statement not only implies FTL is possible, but the addition of "able to" indicates that high relativistic speeds are difficult to attain.
"JADE: based on our current velocity, which is about as close to light speed as i can make it go"
Not "as close to light speed as i can make it go", meaning she definitely can't go faster than light if she can't even get near to it. And this is one of the most powerful characters in the series, with extremely good spatial manipulation abilities.
"JOHN: what!!!
JOHN: that is an absolutely preposterous amount of time.
JADE: i know!
JOHN: are you sure you can't make it go any faster?
JOHN: i mean, not to sound too demanding, but...
JOHN: didn't you say you can teleport stuff?
JOHN: why not teleport us there?
JADE: i cant!
JADE: not here, at least"
The "i cant! not here, at least" is referring to the teleportation, but this further solidifies that she cannot go FTL.
"Quick answer A: It's a fictionalized version of relativity, inverted for [reasons]. Not unlike the fictionalized forms of special and general relativity used in Problem Sleuth for basic reasons of absurdity. (Wait, this silly thing is a better link)"
This is a WoG statement. The "silly thing" links to a page on Problem Sleuth that states:
"Nothing can travel faster than light! Ever. Not space ships, not electricity, not even prayers whispered to your guardian angel. So no matter what, 36 billion years is the minimum duration for that trip."
Which means Hussie is using Problem Sleuth physics for Homestuck, otherwise he wouldn't have used it as an explanation for the yellow yard trip.
Then there's this.
"Let's see. They should be traveling near the speed of light across a distance of one yard, giving them about three nanoseconds before they crash through the other wall."
Which is a statement by Hussie's avatar that Jade, again, cannot move FTL.
Now to adress argument one. Travelling between planets quickly. To this I have three answers.
1. We never get time-frames, although the animations do tend to imply it's fast
2. There are literally portals on the planets leading to other planets IIRC
3. The planets aren't very far apart
Now, evidence for point number three.
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=009839
This panel aaand
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=009843
This one 4 pages later.
Now, Terezi travels from Skaia to another planet in the time-span of a conversation on a jetpack. Already looking bad for planets being far apart. But I'm going to do an extreme high-end calc for the planetary distances just for this.
Let's say her conversation (which was just her monologuing for about 10 paragraphs) took 5 hours and that she was travelling at, oh, 1000 miles per minute.
This is ignoring the fact that she is on a jetpack and that 10 paragraph monologues aren't that long, obviously.
This gives us a distance of 300,000 miles, which is about 2 light seconds.
Actually, let me high-end it even further.
Let's say she's moving 1000 miles per second. That means there's about a... 18000000 mile distance between planets. 18000000/186282 = 92 light seconds. Either way, these planets clearly are not far apart as they are IRL, so argument 1 is out the window.
Argument 2, lightspeed blitzing lightspeed action.
1. This assumes that their combat speed = their travel speed, which hasn't been stated or even implied.
2. Jack, PM, LE, and Jade seem to so far be the only lightspeed characters. Had John been lightspeed, he wouldn't have needed the ship would he? In fact, neither would Jade, so we can say she just moves things at 0.99c, rather than making herself 0.99c.
Currently, the arguments for FTL Homestuck characters goes as follows:
- They travel between planets quickly
- Lightspeed characters blitz other lightspeed characters
First, statements against lightspeed characters (from in-universe people and WoG).
"ROSE: Just as you should trust me that by the time we leave, if we leave exactly within the designated window and are able to travel at nearly the speed of light, the meteor will trace a route through the Furthest Ring which will topologically resolve as a straight line."
This statement not only implies FTL is possible, but the addition of "able to" indicates that high relativistic speeds are difficult to attain.
"JADE: based on our current velocity, which is about as close to light speed as i can make it go"
Not "as close to light speed as i can make it go", meaning she definitely can't go faster than light if she can't even get near to it. And this is one of the most powerful characters in the series, with extremely good spatial manipulation abilities.
"JOHN: what!!!
JOHN: that is an absolutely preposterous amount of time.
JADE: i know!
JOHN: are you sure you can't make it go any faster?
JOHN: i mean, not to sound too demanding, but...
JOHN: didn't you say you can teleport stuff?
JOHN: why not teleport us there?
JADE: i cant!
JADE: not here, at least"
The "i cant! not here, at least" is referring to the teleportation, but this further solidifies that she cannot go FTL.
"Quick answer A: It's a fictionalized version of relativity, inverted for [reasons]. Not unlike the fictionalized forms of special and general relativity used in Problem Sleuth for basic reasons of absurdity. (Wait, this silly thing is a better link)"
This is a WoG statement. The "silly thing" links to a page on Problem Sleuth that states:
"Nothing can travel faster than light! Ever. Not space ships, not electricity, not even prayers whispered to your guardian angel. So no matter what, 36 billion years is the minimum duration for that trip."
Which means Hussie is using Problem Sleuth physics for Homestuck, otherwise he wouldn't have used it as an explanation for the yellow yard trip.
Then there's this.
"Let's see. They should be traveling near the speed of light across a distance of one yard, giving them about three nanoseconds before they crash through the other wall."
Which is a statement by Hussie's avatar that Jade, again, cannot move FTL.
Now to adress argument one. Travelling between planets quickly. To this I have three answers.
1. We never get time-frames, although the animations do tend to imply it's fast
2. There are literally portals on the planets leading to other planets IIRC
3. The planets aren't very far apart
Now, evidence for point number three.
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=009839
This panel aaand
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=009843
This one 4 pages later.
Now, Terezi travels from Skaia to another planet in the time-span of a conversation on a jetpack. Already looking bad for planets being far apart. But I'm going to do an extreme high-end calc for the planetary distances just for this.
Let's say her conversation (which was just her monologuing for about 10 paragraphs) took 5 hours and that she was travelling at, oh, 1000 miles per minute.
This is ignoring the fact that she is on a jetpack and that 10 paragraph monologues aren't that long, obviously.
This gives us a distance of 300,000 miles, which is about 2 light seconds.
Actually, let me high-end it even further.
Let's say she's moving 1000 miles per second. That means there's about a... 18000000 mile distance between planets. 18000000/186282 = 92 light seconds. Either way, these planets clearly are not far apart as they are IRL, so argument 1 is out the window.
Argument 2, lightspeed blitzing lightspeed action.
1. This assumes that their combat speed = their travel speed, which hasn't been stated or even implied.
2. Jack, PM, LE, and Jade seem to so far be the only lightspeed characters. Had John been lightspeed, he wouldn't have needed the ship would he? In fact, neither would Jade, so we can say she just moves things at 0.99c, rather than making herself 0.99c.