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Introduction
A lot of the current League of Legends profiles are pretty outdated or not accurate when it comes to scaling.Some characters are just listed as “scales to Garen” or “comparable to X” without any real explanation or source backing it up, and some profiles just use stuff from the old lore.
This thread’s goal is to basically rework the verse’s scaling, or give sources to the scalings that already work.
6-B/World Rune Scaling
2 World Runes were capable of destroying a huge area which was calced and accepted in this blog, putting them at Country level individually.
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- Ascended should scale above this value as by the time of Darkin War mortals couldn't do anything to stop them, they were nothing more than a cattle to them. Darkins were considered to be unstopable, capable of crushing entire nations and Ta'anari (an experienced darkin himself) stated that even a heavily weakened ascended was capable of conquering the entire world, even after the celestials interfered and helped the mortals, they were only able to seal the darkin not destroy them, "for it was clear that such power could be locked away, but never destroyed." thus all darkin/ascended should be above the mortals wielding world runes. Tho i should note that there are actually 2 outliers of ascended being killed by mortals. Those being Jax and his squad killing an ascended and Vladimir killing his darkin master, however if we look at their context we can see that these doesn't actually contradict whats being said. Jax's along his squad killing an ascended in universe was treated as something impossible as they actually needed to take his corpse to the capital to prove they killed an ascended, (they also toppled half of a mountain in their fight) so this shouldn't contradict anything. Vladimir actually learned his darkin masters magic and killed him with own magic so this also wouldn't contridict any of the statements given.
- This would make ascended/darkins such as Rhaast, Varus, Azir and Xolaani above humans wielding World Runes (the ones i didn't mention here have feats above this value).
- Janna at the peak of her power shielded zaun from the darkin war.
- Kassadin with the nether blade should scale to ascended as it was created and used by them and even deemed to be great.
- Sivir with her weapon should scale to ascended, as it belonged to ascended queen Setaka and it came from the celestial realm,
- As i mentioned above Vladimir was able to kill his Darkin master after learning his magic and on top of that he absorbed some of his powers so he should also scale to the 6-B value.
- Kalista fought Vladimir and was winning in Realms of Runeterra book, so she scales.
- Hecarim, Kalista and Ledros have fought many times,
- Miss Fortune and Illaoi fought and defeated Hecarim.
- All of the members of crew of the charming lady, those being Yasuo, Pyke, Miss Fortune, Braum, Illaoi and Ahri, are all comparable to each other, as they can fight ruined copies of one another as well as a weakened Viego.
- Weakened Viego also has a feat of shaking the shadow isles which i recalced here at 6-C, high 6-C, or 6-B depending on the ends. (Unevaulted)
- Gankplank is able to survive Illaoi's test and rip her tenticles.
- Yorick fought Bartek and his goons alongside Illaoi.
- Human Yone fought on par with Yasuo but was eventually killed.
- Human Yone's Azakana was able to fight him, this is important because Azakana are basically lesser demons and not as powerfull as them. This would make any full demon such as Evelynn, Tahm Kench, Nocturne, Atakhan, Raum (Swain), Tybaulk (Tibbers/Annie's teddy bear) superior to the Azakana Yone fought, and Primordial Demons such as Fiddlesticks and Ashlesh (Nilah) are even above that as they are members of the first ten, the oldest and most powerfull demons in existence. (I should note that i am not saying all full demons are comparable just that they are above Azakana)
- Annie was stated to have talent for magic rivaling her own demon so she should possibly scale.
- Shen as the eye of twilight has killed countless demons.
- Zed has fought Shen in his comic, he is also stated to have fought demons.
- Kusho (Zed and Shen's father) was confident Semi-Darkin Kayn could kill Zed.
- Jhin was able to knock a young Zed out.
- Akali punched out Jhin and performed similarly (albeit slightly worse) against his traps compared to Zed and Shen.
- Master Yi has fought Shadow Assasin Kayn.
- Wukong has beaten Master Yi a couple of times.
- Volibear has fought Nilah.
- Ornn fought Volibear.
- Rammus stated to have destroyed a impenetrable Fortress and fought shadow demons.
- Leblanc stated to have banished several demons.
- Xin Zhao fought and defeated a demon, however it was alongside Yunara's help. After getting amped by ionian magic he was able to block Leblanc's attacks.
- Qiyana is stated to be the greatest elemental mage of all time (presumably Ixtal's) so she should be above Ixtal's Ascended Ne'zuk.
- Mordekaiser should be above the like of Leblanc and Vladimir as the black rose is dedicated to stopping his return, because if he did he would be unstopable. He also enslaved Tybaulk (Tibbers/Annie's teddy bear).
- Briar is stated to be too powerful for Black Rose to destroy.
- Ryze is able to beat a human wielding a world rune and can match Brand who is a World Rune.
- Nautilus killed Aligh who could contend with Miss Fortune.
- As i mentioned above Jax was able to kill an ascended.
- Jax considers Fiora a worthy opponent.
- Riven has fought Yasuo.
- Xayah and Rakan have fought Zed.
- Rell is stated to be able to defeat Mordekaisers physical form in a q/n, which is why Black Rose even trained her.
- Maokai is able to fight Crew of the Charming Lady.
- Lissandra has overpowered Braum.
- Nunu and Williump was able to fight Lissandra.
- Lucian was able to drive Hecarim and his army back.
- Thresh fought Lucian.
- Petricite is a stone thats able to absorb and nullify magic. Demacia was basically built around petricite and it is what protected demacia from the Rune Wars, to add to that, Ryze kept the World Runes inside a petricite demacian vaultso petricite should be able to nullify a world rune. (Also back in 2017 Narrirative team leader stated Galio, a being of petricite, to be capable of nullifying a world rune, however i couldn't find the source for this) So any mage capable of overpowering petricite's magic absorption capabilities should also scale to the Rune calc.
- Sylas (only with absorbtion) was able to completely break demacias petricite walls after absorbing Lux's magic.
- Lux also was able to overpower petricite with her magic so its consistent. She also defeated nocturne with her magic.
- Sylas also was able to fight Nocturne, however by that point in the game Sylas gets a new form from Morgana, that boosts his physicals immensly so it's likely that he only was able to fight Nocturne using that and also in his q/a its stated that the chains sylas uses were made to capture demons, and considering that Sylas' base is shown to be more so closer to Garen (who nearly got killed against Nocturne's mere nightmare manifestations and only survived due to Lux destroying the real Nocturne), Sylas only through magic absrobtion or with Morgana's amp should scale to the Runes.
- Sona overpowered mageseekers (their job is to capture mages with petricite) with her magic,
- True ice is stated to be Freljord's strongest substance (and possibly the worlds), thus it should be above other substances in freljord like star metal which was stated to be almost as stubborn and unyielding as Ornn and he even forged a hammer for himself from this metal, which he almost always uses.
- Sejuani broke her true ice by ramming through it. She also blocked an attack from Volibear.
- Olaf fought Sejuani to a standstill.
- Ashe held her own against Sejuani.
- Udyr stood against Volibear, and was 100% ready to fight him, until the latter backed away from their conflict, so he should likely scale.
- Gnar broke out of true ice.
- Yummi rocked Mega Gnar causing him to fall.
- Trundle only with his weapon is true ice level as its made of true ice and can shatter other true ice stuff.
- Draven briefly clashed with Riven, so he should scale at most.
- Darius fought a beast together with Draven.
- Samira beat semi-ruined Darius.
- Sion is considered by Swain to be a great champion of noxus, so he sould likely be comparable to Draven or Darius.
- Lulu with her magic amped a rabbit which caused Draven to run because he was no match for it.
- Because Neeko is closer to a Vastayashai’rei her spirit energy is stronger than other vastaya's such as xayah and rakan, to the point where they would freak out if they saw her.
- Nidalee protected neeko from poachers.
- Ascended should scale above this value as by the time of Darkin War mortals couldn't do anything to stop them, they were nothing more than a cattle to them. Darkins were considered to be unstopable, capable of crushing entire nations and Ta'anari (an experienced darkin himself) stated that even a heavily weakened ascended was capable of conquering the entire world, even after the celestials interfered and helped the mortals, they were only able to seal the darkin not destroy them, "for it was clear that such power could be locked away, but never destroyed." thus all darkin/ascended should be above the mortals wielding world runes. Tho i should note that there are actually 2 outliers of ascended being killed by mortals. Those being Jax and his squad killing an ascended and Vladimir killing his darkin master, however if we look at their context we can see that these doesn't actually contradict whats being said. Jax's along his squad killing an ascended in universe was treated as something impossible as they actually needed to take his corpse to the capital to prove they killed an ascended, (they also toppled half of a mountain in their fight) so this shouldn't contradict anything. Vladimir actually learned his darkin masters magic and killed him with own magic so this also wouldn't contridict any of the statements given.
7-C/Taliyah's feat
Taliyah was able to shatter Xolaani's statue which was calced and accepted in this blog, putting her at Town level.-
- Kai'sa is able to fight Taliyah breifly, she also fights Xer'sai alongside her.
- Ezreal killed Xer'sai and thinks they are easy to kill, he also fought against voidlings alongside Kai'sa.
- Rek'sai is the queen and mother of Xer'sai so she should be above them, she also took blasts from Kai'sa.
8-C/Arcane scaling
This part will mostly be about new scalings for Season 2 of Arcane, or Piltover/Zaun related champions that did not appear in the show but scale to the same point, which is upscaling from Deckard tanking an explosion.-
- Rictus fought and overpowered Jinx.
- Warwick fought Vi, Jinx and even tanked hits from her hextech handgun. Fought Ambessa, however their fight was offscreen without a concrete winner. He also stomped Rictus.
- Ambessa should be superior to Rictus as he is her lackey, and she fought against Warwick, however their fight was offscreen and without a concrete winner. Ambessa also fought against Caitlyn and Mel at the same time, while even overpowering Mel's magic at points.
- Her Rune armor specifically is durable enough to protect her from Caitlyn's hextech rifle.
- Caitlyn should get a new key for second season as she has spared with Ambessa multiple times during the timeskip, and although weaker could compete with her in their fight.
- Mel fought one of Viktor's bots alongside Jayce, and her magic seemed comparable to his hextech.
- Viktor should at bare minimum be as strong as one of his random bots, of which one could fight against Mel and Jayce at the same time.
- Ekko could get a key for second season, as he has fought some of Viktor's bots briefly, and he has gained new abilities.
- Young Darius should be above Rictus, as he was a general during that time and he is one of the prime examples of Noxus's princible of strength. Trundle, physically should scale to this as he fought young Darius.
- Kled too should be above Rictus as he was one of the finest military leaders in Noxus's history, having been around even before Noxus was formed.
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- Blitzcrank is a hextech powered golem made by Viktor.
- Camille is a hextech augmented human, having replaced her heart with hextech.
- Seraphine is a mage amplified by a hextech.
- Ziggs is a terrorist that uses hextech bombs called "hexplosives".
- Corki bust thorugh a hextech plane with his own plane.
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- Dr. Mundo is chemically empowered and he defeated some chem-barons.
- Urgot is empowered by chemtech and defeated some chem-barons.
- Zeri defeated some chem-barons.
- Renata Glasc is a chem-baroness herself.
- Zac is empowered by chem tech and defeated some chem barons.
8-C/Natural Lightning
Per our lightning page, natural lightning requires Building level energy.-
- Veigar is able to summon cloud to ground lightning.
- Kennen is able to summon cloud to ground lightning.
- Teemo sparred with Kennen.
- Graves overpowered and captured Teemo.
- Twisted Fate fought Graves.
- In addition Graves and TF tanked this explosion.
9-A/Garen's feat
Garen was able to shatter a bridge which was calced and accepted in this blog, putting him at Small Building level.-
- Katarina fought Garen in her comic.
- Talon briefly fought Katarina.
- Base Sylas fought Garen severaltimes. (Tho like i said earlier Garen only scales to base Sylas as whenever Sylas is shown using magic he overpowers Garen)
- Jarvan and Shyvana fought base Sylas. (Since the cutscene is showing them clashing with base Sylas they only scale to that)
- Poppy, as the future hero of demacia destined to lead demacia to greatness, should at least be comparable to likes of Garen, she also fought and defeated a tower sized mosnter.
- Elise fought Katarina.
- Quinn and Valor are stated as Demacia's two greatest heroes, so they should at least be comparable to Garen.
Low 1-C/Celestials
Low 1-C celestials was accepted in this thread.-
- Aspect of War (aka The Warrior) is stated to be the strongest star (star here referring to aspects), thus he should be above the likes of Zoe and Bard. Aatrox fought and completely killed the Aspect of War possesing Atreus' body, erasing the aspect from the celestial realm and leaving Atreus to death. After that Atreus through sheer willpower alone, brought the Concept of War back to existence and became the Aspect of War (Pantheon) himself, defeating Aatrox in the process.
- Leona fought Pantheon.
- Nasus and Renekton were stated to be only warriors capable of defeating the fire spirit Xerath released at that time, so they should be > Aatrox together and comparable to him individually.
- Pre sealing Xerath fought Renekton and Nasus to a standstill for a long time and he was only defeated when Renekton hurled himself and Xerath into a tomb and asked Nasus to seal them. After he was unsealed Xerath was stated to be more powerful than before. He easily overpowered and nearly killed Nasus, and did the same to Pantheon in another accosion.
- Aphelios should possibly scale to Diana as he is stated to be as strong as moonstone, which is more powerful than moonsilver, which in turn the is the material Diana's weapon made of.
- Naafiri belives she could have defeated any Darkin, so she should possibly scale to Aatrox, and normaly she'd be 6-B.
- Kayle and Morgana fought and defeated Aattox, and Kayle later fought him again.
- Xolaani's second form (individually) was able to fight against Aatrox, Kayle and her mother Mihira (Aspect of Justice), then she absorbed Mihira and became even more powerful.
- Ryze with the full power of a World Rune nuked Xolaani's third form.
- Yes i did say World Runes were 6-B at the top, however that feat was done by nameless mages and Ryze is a literall Rune Mage, so it make sense that he can use the full power of the Runes. So the runes should probably have a "varies depending on user" on its profile, similar to infinity stones from mcu.
- Viego fought and defeated Pantheon and later on Viego is stated to have power greater than heavens (heavens here refering to the Celestial Realm).
- Most Sentinels of Light members fought, took attacks from Ruined Pantheon (At the time, Diana, Senna, Lucian, Gwen, Vayne, Olaf, Irelia and Riven) and helped defeat him.
- Senna, Lucian and Sentinel Vayne fired at Ruined Pantheon and ultimately defeated him with their barrage.
- Ruined Shyvana fought Senna, Lucian and Vayne at the same time and was capable of taking direct hits from Senna's cannon or shrugging off Lucian's shots.
- Sentinel Vayne helped defeat Ruined Pantheon, and Vayne was capable of hurting Ruined Shyvana.
- Ruined Karma's magic was strong enough to incapacitate Senna and Lucian with a single attack, and her shields can block Lucian's attacks entirely.
- Irelia fought against Karma and took hits from her magic.
- Sentinel Olaf and Sentinel Riven were capable of running through a Wraith Phalanx that deflected shots from Senna, Lucian and Sentinel Vayne , likewise both of them briefly fought against Ruined Pantheon individually.
- Sentinel Pyke was able to fight alone against a group of wraiths other Sentinels deemed too much to handle.
- Ruined Miss Fortune is stronger than her crew, which was capable of fighting the Sentinels for hours until each member was brought to exhaustion, she also fought against Sentinel Pyke underwater for the same duration of time.
- Thresh easily knocked all Sentinel champions after absorbing some of Viego's power.
Individual feats
These characters don't really scale to anyone listed above so they'll scale to their own feats.-
- Alistar was able to make a creater which was calced and accepted in this blog putting him at 9-A+.
- Rengar killed a beast that was able to crush a human skull and our standard calc puts this as9-C.
- Kha'zix should scale to this as he fought Rengar equally.
- K'sante was able to split a cloud which was calced and accepted in this blog, putting him at 7-C.
- Cassiopeia was able to squeeze and break a humans ribcage which our standard calc puts at 9-C.
- Vel'koz was able to vaporize a forest which our standard calc puts as 8-B+.
- Malzahar was able to cause earthquakes and Mr.Bambu said Magnitutde 7 end was reasonable to use, which our standard calc puts at high 7-C.
- Malzahar worships Bel'veth and is corrupted from her, so bel'veth should scale to her phropet. Bel'veth is also incomparably stronger than Kai'sa and basically mogged her.
- Fizz is stated to be able to put a hole in a ship's hull and can summon ocean beasts like gigaladons whom can crush towers and temples, which i'm pretty sure both are at least 9-B. (maybe the shark feat is 9-A)
- Lee Sin was able to shatter a dudes every bone in his spine and this accepted calc i found puts that at 9-C.
- Syndra was able to lift a portion of her temple which this accepted calc puts at 9-A.
- Malphite due to his size would be high 8-C per our standard values.
- Mini Gnar has a boomerang so he can scale to 9-C with boomerang in his mini form.
- Skarner's KE gets him to high 7-C per this accepted calc.
- Jack, whom Sett scales to has a feat of craking the ground here however i didn't calc this if there is a standart calc for cracking the ground they could scale to that.
- Nami has a feat of creating an ocean wave to put down a village fire here however i didn't calc this if there is a standart calc for creating an ocean wave she could scale to that
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