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Writing Discussion Thread

Pepsiman25th said:
The story I have will actually be a mix of various elements. Mainly, inspirations from various fictions like Overlord, Shield Hero, Rezero, One Piece, Undertale, and Deltarune.
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If I had to shorten it

It's a play on perception, realism, and imagination. The first part is basically like an introduction to realism, fantasy, imagination, and the causes of them that lead to upbringings and downfall. For example, imagination can bring you happiness while at the same time warp your perception of what is real, making the world seem like its fake. Another example is when something is way to "real", the world is normal, but lacks imagination so leads to depression and creativity dies.

The first part of it is about a Creator trapped in a room, unable to leave it. They look out their only source of light and see a large glowing orb of warmth and they want that, to feel it also. However, the creator is unable to, so they enter a dream where a new world is born from their imagination. The creator loves their world and showers it with love. They find life and decide to harbor it.

This however comes to an end. The creator is unable to be in their dream forever, so they wonder. Their time is limited. They return to the dream and find their world is in chaos. So, the creator shatters themselves to create a crystal that will keep the dream alive, or at least going.

This then leads the world into a 23,000-year history. Various "Eras" as the locals call it. The new Era given birth by a crystal sent from the creator Avaruus as the locals call them. The 23,000-year history is divided into 7 eras. Unrecorded Era, Great Demon Era (1st), Mythical Era, Era of the Cursed Kings, War of Ruins (2nd), Chaos Era, and the current one, the Embers Era (3rd).

The (1st) (2nd) and (3rd) on some Eras corresponds to a great disaster. The current Era, Embers Era, is going through the 3rd disaster. And this is where the story truly begins.

The various elements to the world, such as power system, races, events, and locations are all inspired from various other series along with some of the characters.
 
Major Character Creation Process:
  1. See empty role(s) in story
  2. Initial character concept, most likely reused from the first draft of a different character
  3. Think of backstory to explain the current character
  4. Have interesting idea for backstory in order to tie it to other characters/the world
  5. Realize this changes the initial character concept, relations, and role in story
  6. Explore the changes and flesh out new relations/role
  7. Get over-invested in new character, expand on them further
  8. Realize their backstory is more interesting than the actual plot/current events
  9. Come up with new story idea centering around the character
  10. See empty role(s) in story
  11. See Step 2.
 
ElajRuengies said:
wanna drill this through my head, since my concept for the female lead is a bartender whose main strength is how she seems to know and be able to talk to basically everyone, and I have a self imposed challenge to have her never fight if I can help it.

It's a reflection of the theme of communication via words vs. use of force, but my brain keeps reflexively thinking of really cool fight ideas with her which undermines the whole friggin' point.
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Please continue to cook with this idea.
This is probably my favorite one ive seen so far.

I imagine this as a video game where you, the bartender, meet random people who talk to you about their life stories, and you can influence their actions with choices you make, which can lead to some interesting dialogue and interactions.

I'd like to hear more about this story cuz it's really dope ngl
 
ElajRuengies said:
Major Character Creation Process:
  1. See empty role(s) in story
  2. Initial character concept, most likely reused from the first draft of a different character
  3. Think of backstory to explain the current character
  4. Have interesting idea for backstory in order to tie it to other characters/the world
  5. Realize this changes the initial character concept, relations, and role in story
  6. Explore the changes and flesh out new relations/role
  7. Get over-invested in new character, expand on them further
  8. Realize their backstory is more interesting than the actual plot/current events
  9. Come up with new story idea centering around the character
  10. See empty role(s) in story
  11. See Step 2.
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I lowkey follow that exact same process.
 
Nierre said:
Please continue to cook with this idea.
This is probably my favorite one ive seen so far.

I imagine this as a video game where you, the bartender, meet random people who talk to you about their life stories, and you can influence their actions with choices you make, which can lead to some interesting dialogue and interactions.

I'd like to hear more about this story cuz it's really dope ngl
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Ay, the multiple-path video game idea's really neat- being able to see the what-ifs for different character interactions is always interesting since it lets you see more sides to them than a single course of a events does. Unfortunately the story in it's current form isn't quite as fun.
In a power system that lets soldiers get as strong as nuclear weapons, how powerful must the WMDs be? How great must a weapon be in order to force the world into peace? And how do you go about creating such a weapon?

That is the question of one Farest University graduate Kiera Solemark's research paper, as she travels abroad deep into the burls of Rosaline; basically the Australia of the world in terms of historical separation from everything else, including the constant looming tension between the two greatest powers on the planet.

Her research lands her in Shoal, a small town located near a weird spot of geography she believes holds the secrets to a new power source. Living on the second floor of The Midnight- one of those funky buildings that's a business on ground level and an apartment on top- and with limited (expensive) communication back home, she alone must contend with the horrendous weather, nightmarish local wildlife, growing list of mysteries about the area, and her increasingly obvious crush on the bartender working downstairs, who seems to know damn near everything.
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The original name of the story was "The Space Race" for now obsolete reasons. I'm now thinking of something like "Welcome to Midnight" or something
 
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ElajRuengies said:
Major Character Creation Process:
  1. See empty role(s) in story
  2. Initial character concept, most likely reused from the first draft of a different character
  3. Think of backstory to explain the current character
  4. Have interesting idea for backstory in order to tie it to other characters/the world
  5. Realize this changes the initial character concept, relations, and role in story
  6. Explore the changes and flesh out new relations/role
  7. Get over-invested in new character, expand on them further
  8. Realize their backstory is more interesting than the actual plot/current events
  9. Come up with new story idea centering around the character
  10. See empty role(s) in story
  11. See Step 2.
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I have the complete opposite problem where I have an interesting idea for a character, then realize I need a world for them to inhabit and characters to interact and clash with them.
 
ElajRuengies said:
Ay, the multiple-path video game idea's really neat- being able to see the what-ifs for different character interactions is always interesting since it lets you see more sides to them than a single course of a events does. Unfortunately the story in it's current form isn't quite as fun.

The original name of the story was "The Space Race" for now obsolete reasons. I'm now thinking of something like "Welcome to Midnight" or something
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KEEP GOING KEEP GOING
 
Nierre said:
Hmm honestly any. And no problem, the theme sparked my interest and I like the setting as well
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So next week is finals week and I've got my last assignments due, but I do have some general stuff I can show right now, namely how far away from everything Rosaline is-



(Top is Calvaria, Middle Big is Kork, Middle Small is Ramus, and Bottom is Ancala, and the distant one is Rosaline)

This is nowhere near done, as I'm still cleaning up ocean crust (the more blue areas are where there's overlapping layers, which shouldn't be a thing) and the subduction zones in blue aren't all there, but this is the general location of the continents in my world at the current day. I've spent the last couple months finagling GPlates to get the tectonic history, partially for mountain range placement, and partially so I can put off trying to learn how to use Adobe Illustrator. Also I somehow just realized now that Rosaline is at the same latitude as Mexico and I need it to be way, way higher up.
 
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ElajRuengies said:
So next week is finals week and I've got my last assignments due, but I do have some general stuff I can show right now, namely how far away from everything Rosaline is-



(Top is Calvaria, Middle Big is Kork, Middle Small is Ramus, and Bottom is Ancala, and the distant one is Rosaline)

This is nowhere near done, as I'm still cleaning up ocean crust (the more blue areas are where there's overlapping layers, which shouldn't be a thing) and the subduction zones in blue aren't all there, but this is the general location of the continents in my world at the current day. I've spent the last couple months finagling GPlates to get the tectonic history, partially for mountain range placement, and partially so I can put off trying to learn how to use Adobe Illustrator. Also I somehow just realized now that Rosaline is at the same latitude as Mexico and I need it to be way, way higher up.
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Wow, an actual planet map. These don't happen very often

What app did you use to make it? And is it earth sized or slightly bigger/smaller? After Moon-Sized Earth in Avatar, I need to know
 
Peppersalt43 said:
Wow, an actual planet map. These don't happen very often

What app did you use to make it? And is it earth sized or slightly bigger/smaller? After Moon-Sized Earth in Avatar, I need to know
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Been using GPlates for the past couple months- it's slightly smaller than Earth, 91.4% the radius (~5830.12 km) and 77.7% the mass, making it a smidge smaller than Venus, meaning basically the same gravity as Earth. So no One Piece Star-Sized Planets for me

Rosaline is a bit smaller than Australia, Ramus is a hair bigger than Australia, Calvaria's between Europe and Antarctica, Ancala is a little smaller than North America, and Kork is slightly bigger than Africa.

With that said, since it's possible for pre-modern humans to achieve supersonic speeds, these regions feel a lot smaller than our continents do territory-wise. The equivalent of a typical medieval kingdom could be the size of Poland, while Empires would regularly cover a continent, so Rosaline's separation is more due to horrible superweather rather than distance.
 
Deidalius said:
I don't know if y'all remember but I said that I want to write a verse with a mechanic were everyone can fight each other with equalized stats. Even planet busters, gods, normal humans, etc.

I thought "How would a character fight armies if everyone had equalized stats? Would they have to 1v1 everyone with equal stats?" So I thought about making it so that high tier characters can just one shot irrelevant characters like weak soldiers and stuff like that. How? By making your "level of importance" a powerlevel.

If you are more important than your opponent to an absurd degree, you can ignore their attempts at equalizing their stats to yours and simply oneshot them or speedblitz them.

Higher level of importance = Higher hax resistance (Not an immunity), higher luck and fate favors you (Canonical plot armor)

And the level of importance can be determined by how many lives, places, things and people you can affect. So a random homeless terrorist wouldn't be capable of assassinating a dictator unless he increases his importance.

Thoughts?
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Hey, I remember this
Deidalius said:
This is a series of laws of reality that were made for my stories. I haven't updated it in a long time. I just translated it to English since I mainly write in Spanish so I thought of sharing this concept here to get feedback.
docs.google.com

The rule of Claymore, level of importance and reflections of the universe.docx

docs.google.com docs.google.com
It's only one page long.

Read it and give me your thoughts on it.
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So, have you revised it?
 
Earth-Moon System

World Map

Basically the map and the illustration of how it is seen from the space of the story that I create, with the only error being the belt that orbits the Earth that I placed in the wrong place, in reality it is smaller and orbits closer to the planet like Saturn's rings

It's basically planet Earth after an apocalyptic third world war, the reason the planet is so different from normal is because of the interference of approximately 100 individuals with supernatural powers battling on the planet.

Generally in fiction when a large-scale battle occurs on the planet the effects are most of the time not permanent, I wanted to portray a reality where the battle of super-powered individuals leaves scars across the planet.
 
The moon was shattered and transformed into the rings that orbit the Earth and an ice moon was placed in its place so that there would be no major effects on the oceans and much disruption to the fauna.

Unfortunately regarding the map, not all the names of each place are correct and are only provisional until a better name is found.
 
EnderLord8 said:
Earth-Moon System

World Map

Basically the map and the illustration of how it is seen from the space of the story that I create, with the only error being the belt that orbits the Earth that I placed in the wrong place, in reality it is smaller and orbits closer to the planet like Saturn's rings

It's basically planet Earth after an apocalyptic third world war, the reason the planet is so different from normal is because of the interference of approximately 100 individuals with supernatural powers battling on the planet.

Generally in fiction when a large-scale battle occurs on the planet the effects are most of the time not permanent, I wanted to portray a reality where the battle of super-powered individuals leaves scars across the planet.
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The pictures aren't loading for me...
EnderLord8 said:
Unfortunately regarding the map, not all the names of each place are correct and are only provisional until a better name is found.
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Mood- I used brands of soda as placeholder names before hesitantly setting on the current list, although Kork came from Coke so it never really got a "proper" name.
 
Deidalius said:
I finished rewriting The rule of Claymore. I also added two more other things. I had to manually translate everything from Spanish to English. Thoughts? Criticisms?
docs.google.com

The rule of Claymore, level of importance and reflections of the universe.docx

docs.google.com docs.google.com
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The main questions coming to mind with this is how importance is defined, like- you know the phrase
  • "What's a man to a king? What's a king to a God? What's a God to a nonbeliever?"
Since you mentioned earlier you want gods and humans be able to deck each other sorta evenly, what makes one individual more important than the other? It can't just be by the number of people they affect, since everyone's actions affects everyone else at some point, it's just that some people action's more directly affect other people than others.

It also leads to the question of what increases one's importance? There's an obvious leadership route to go, but what about writing a best-selling novel? Or going viral online? The influence of the internet itself is a giant fustercluck that can mess with "importance."

Can you decrease someone else's importance by taking credit for their actions? Even though they still physically did the significant thing, if everyone thinks you did it, then would that nerf their gains?

Can you coast on the importance of just one thing you did? If that one Executive Officer, who was the only thing stopping the captain and other officer on that USSR submarine from launching the nuclear torpedo and causing WWIII / nuclear armageddon, was still alive today, would he still be utterly untouchable for being reason civilization is still around, despite the thing he did being over half a century ago?

Lots of questions. Also nice english.
 
Realized that I never really described any of my story ideas in terms of where they are next to each other. In fact, I haven't really described some of my story ideas at all. So here's the list, in sorta chronological order-
Carrion Queen: While squabbling amongst themselves, out of control warrior-kings inadvertently turn a war orphan into a blood-thirsty fly woman, and also create the world's most devious, vengeful, anti-kratorian child that history will ever see.
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Buckshot: Antlers boy, son of cool dead guy, is sent on a suicide mission for sins of the grandfather by cool dead guy's murderer. Boy survives, swears revenge, is denied revenge due to external circumstances, and then comes to the realization that the world doesn't revolve around him well after he's already pissed off the strongest person on the continent.
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[Big timeskip]
Two Steps To Midnight: Physically disabled woman with mommy issues goes on research trip, in hopes discovery will make people give her the time of day, even if her research could lead to a weapon of mass destruction. Gets gaslit by bartender, who does this ostensibly to stop a doomsday weapon, but really to make sure the researcher never leaves because she's the only one who would never be able to tell that she's a walking extinction event due to physical disability.
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Fortitude: Local pushover survives end of the world due to his hickey from a demon, and the first other survivor he meets is the world's most arrogant quadruple amputee, who had somehow pissed off just about everybody before the world ended, and now needs to get their prosthetic limbs and power back.
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[Big timeskip]
Racination: Pillar of virtue gets stuck inside the body of an asshole and is forced to work with him, just in time for the worst prison break in history, spearheaded by the person who discovered that the universe is in an unfathomable state of chronic depression, and decides to do their small part in putting it out of its misery, by ending the world for good this time.
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[Doesn't fit with order]
Exonaut: Deadbeat mother climbs up the cosmological bucket of crabs that is reality, in order to ask God why is everything so shit.
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After being high, played ungodly amount of obscure JRPG, reading too much Xianxia and Manhwa.

I can finally finish my world building draft, while high.


So the protagonist meet an Absolute God of his universe, the God goes batshit insane- because the machination of a mysterious being. The barrier between the physical and mental/imaginary/conceptual/whatever youcallmetaphysical collapse, causing an immense amount of every monster, mythical being, and gods that humanity ever imagined pouring into the physical world.

Most human began distorting, be it their body, mind and soul. Turning them into being so horrifying, they can appear in your nightmare.

And not only that, God going insane makes the world outer barriers weaken. Causing some Outer Beings to slip some of their essence into the universe, causing even more chaos.

Also the universe are falling slowly into the Abyss, a place where worlds and gods dies. There lays the many corpses of worlds and gods, devoured by beings beyond human comprehension.

Suddenly the protag woke up, lose his memory. His friend suddenly appears and say-

"You have sinned, this world turning into hell because of you. Now, kill God as your penance and atonement. Then your sin shall be abolished."

This is a not so coherent story where I combine Baroque and Shin Megami Tensei.

While high.
 
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Rakih_Elyan said:
So the protagonist meet an Absolute God of his universe, the God goes batshit insane- because the machination of a mysterious being. The barrier between the physical and mental/imaginary/conceptual/whatever youcallmetaphysical collapse, causing an immense amount of every monster, mythical being, and gods that humanity ever imagined pouring into the physical world.

Most human began distorting, be it their body, mind and soul. Turning them into being so horrifying, they can appear in your nightmare.

And not only that, God going insane makes the world outer barriers weaken. Causing some Outer Beings to slip some of their essence into the universe, causing even more chaos.

Also the universe are falling slowly into the Abyss, a place where worlds and gods dies. There lays the many corpses of worlds and gods, devoured by beings beyond human comprehension.

Suddenly the protag woke up, lose his memory. His friend suddenly appears and say-

"You have sinned, this world turning into hell because of you. Now, kill God as your penance and atonement. Then your sin shall be abolished."
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I assume this is the start of the story?
 
I have a story where monsters (more specifically vampires) effectively rule the world and have done so for many years. Prior to the start of the story the Monster Emperor (Dracula) kills himself, and is reborn as the human protagonist. So now the ruling society of vampires is trying to hide his death to maintain their grip of power over the world. The main characters are a group of monster hunters trying to stop the creatures. Almost every type of supernatural being exists in some form including gods. However, the gods don’t really intervene much in the day to day with some exceptions.
 
ElajRuengies said:
Realized that I never really described any of my story ideas in terms of where they are next to each other. In fact, I haven't really described some of my story ideas at all. So here's the list, in sorta chronological order-


[Big timeskip]


[Big timeskip]

[Doesn't fit with order]
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So have you made any outlines for these? Because there are a ton of ideas here and from experience, it's kinda difficult to write for multiple things at once

I've always wanted to try out writing with prompts so if you're willing, I can probably ghost writer some of this stuff (For free for now, I am in no ways professional). Also I'm not too deep into the writing community so I'm sorry if this is actually a dick move (There are a lot of things that are a dick move in the art community so I assume there are specific things as well)
 
Peppersalt43 said:
So have you made any outlines for these? Because there are a ton of ideas here and from experience, it's kinda difficult to write for multiple things at once
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Buckshot and Two Steps To Midnight have basic outlines, Exonaut and Carrion Queen have a beginning and an end idea, Fortitude is totally open ended, and Racination is in this weird state where I had an outline for it, but it's now outdated and doesn't line up with my other ideas.

I'm not actively writing for any of these ideas at the moment beyond developing an outline, since I've got chronic World Builder's disease and I want to develop the setting of the world more before getting into specific details.
Peppersalt43 said:
I've always wanted to try out writing with prompts so if you're willing, I can probably ghost writer some of this stuff (For free for now, I am in no ways professional). Also I'm not too deep into the writing community so I'm sorry if this is actually a dick move (There are a lot of things that are a dick move in the art community so I assume there are specific things as well)
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Not a dick move at all, don't worry! (I'm not super deep in the writing community either) With that said, all of the story ideas are interlinked to an extent and use characters I've got a framework for.

If you do wanna ghost write one though, you can have a shot at Carrion Queen. It's probably the most typical [face tougher and tougher opponents until the final boss] out of the list.
 
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