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So, I've been noticing a disturbing trend relating to Rooster Teeth's Death Battle. Namely, revisions that seem to have been made solely to prove it incorrect.
For example, here's an order of events:
May 17th, 2021: Po vs Iron Fist comes out on YouTube. That very same day, a Content Revision Thread is made to buff Iron Fist to Marvel Semiherald level, which at the time was 5-A (Enough to let Iron Fist one shot Po). It also was clearly created in direct response to Death Battle, and was directly created with the purpose of proving it wrong. "...the new Death Battle got released and it's downplaying as **** as usual...".
Despite it using "The character holds back so scaling is fine" logic, something that has been constantly debunked as the means to upgrade various characters from both Marvel and DC, and it was rushed through. The revision was approved and added just two days later.
The revision was very clearly made out of spite, yet it got through in just two days. I guarantee this would never have happened in such a short amount of time, had it not been for Danny's loss.
Now, because if there is a god they're a trickster, Semiheralds were later downgraded High 6-C, making Danny once again weaker than Po's peak of 6-B, but this is ultimately irrelevant to the current discussion.
Now, we come to October 25th, 2021. DIO vs Alucard comes out on YouTube. And once again, the same day, a Content Revision Thread comes out with the purpose of upgrading Alucard to City Block level, enough to one shot DIO and let him tank all of his attacks, negating the episode's arguments by our statistics, when it was correct before. Now, this revision has yet to go through, but it also hasn't been expressly rejected.
And I feel like I do NOT need to mention what was happening, and can be argued to still be happening, after Ben Tennyson vs Hal Jordan's release.
And, frankly, there's probably other revisions I don't know about that have been made solely to spite Death Battle. After all, this community sometimes seems to be outright hateful towards this show. Such as a versus thread for Meta vs Carolina, where Meta won via hax, and then a FRA train, despite his only "hax" being a relatively out-of-character time stop. Made only a little under three months after the episode was released. Of course, I brought up these grievances and had it removed from both's profiles some time ago, but the fact it exists at all is telling.
Now, good things have come from characters appearing on Death Battle. The quality of Lucy's profile has skyrocketed since her fight against Carnage on the show. However, I think steps should be put in place to prevent these spite threads from occurring, and more importantly to prevent them from being passed so easily. So, I have made a proposition for some rules that might be a good idea to add:
It's not unreasonable to say that Death Battle is the single most influential thing in all versus debating. And while it's influence can be positive (Such as with the reworking of Lucy's profile), I would like to prevent the potentially negative influence of the show where possible.
Spite is quite possibly the single most powerful human motivator that exists in the short term, and I would like to prevent it from influencing this website in any way possible.
I would also like to note that I have nothing against the creators of the threads I've used as examples. One in particular I personally know on the wiki. I'm simply pointing out a disturbing trend and how we might fix it.
For example, here's an order of events:
May 17th, 2021: Po vs Iron Fist comes out on YouTube. That very same day, a Content Revision Thread is made to buff Iron Fist to Marvel Semiherald level, which at the time was 5-A (Enough to let Iron Fist one shot Po). It also was clearly created in direct response to Death Battle, and was directly created with the purpose of proving it wrong. "...the new Death Battle got released and it's downplaying as **** as usual...".
Despite it using "The character holds back so scaling is fine" logic, something that has been constantly debunked as the means to upgrade various characters from both Marvel and DC, and it was rushed through. The revision was approved and added just two days later.
The revision was very clearly made out of spite, yet it got through in just two days. I guarantee this would never have happened in such a short amount of time, had it not been for Danny's loss.
Now, because if there is a god they're a trickster, Semiheralds were later downgraded High 6-C, making Danny once again weaker than Po's peak of 6-B, but this is ultimately irrelevant to the current discussion.
Now, we come to October 25th, 2021. DIO vs Alucard comes out on YouTube. And once again, the same day, a Content Revision Thread comes out with the purpose of upgrading Alucard to City Block level, enough to one shot DIO and let him tank all of his attacks, negating the episode's arguments by our statistics, when it was correct before. Now, this revision has yet to go through, but it also hasn't been expressly rejected.
And I feel like I do NOT need to mention what was happening, and can be argued to still be happening, after Ben Tennyson vs Hal Jordan's release.
And, frankly, there's probably other revisions I don't know about that have been made solely to spite Death Battle. After all, this community sometimes seems to be outright hateful towards this show. Such as a versus thread for Meta vs Carolina, where Meta won via hax, and then a FRA train, despite his only "hax" being a relatively out-of-character time stop. Made only a little under three months after the episode was released. Of course, I brought up these grievances and had it removed from both's profiles some time ago, but the fact it exists at all is telling.
Now, good things have come from characters appearing on Death Battle. The quality of Lucy's profile has skyrocketed since her fight against Carnage on the show. However, I think steps should be put in place to prevent these spite threads from occurring, and more importantly to prevent them from being passed so easily. So, I have made a proposition for some rules that might be a good idea to add:
- Within a month of a Death Battle episode's release, Content Revision Threads should not be allowed that would place a the loser of that episode's statistics above the winner's unless any of these statistics were already above the winner's.
- Inversely, within a month of a Death Battle's release, Content Revision Threads should not be allowed that would place the winner of that episode's statistics below the loser's unless any of those statistics were already below the loser's.
- An exception to the above rules will be made if the Revision is based on content that was released after the episode's release.
- Revisions to Powers & Abilities are unrestricted, but if it is clear that the revision is being made solely out of spite for the Death Battle episode, it will not be allowed within a month after the episode's release.
- Versus Threads using both characters in a Death Battle episode released less than a month ago should not be allowed, even if the thread is using other keys or incarnations of the characters.
It's not unreasonable to say that Death Battle is the single most influential thing in all versus debating. And while it's influence can be positive (Such as with the reworking of Lucy's profile), I would like to prevent the potentially negative influence of the show where possible.
Spite is quite possibly the single most powerful human motivator that exists in the short term, and I would like to prevent it from influencing this website in any way possible.
I would also like to note that I have nothing against the creators of the threads I've used as examples. One in particular I personally know on the wiki. I'm simply pointing out a disturbing trend and how we might fix it.