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INTRODUCTION
The purpose of this content revision is to rectify the changes that were enacted in this previous CRT and as such is structured as a response to it.
That CRT is built upon obvious contradictions, name and association fallacies, lack of knowledge and "trust me bro" which leaves me with a few choice words for all the participating members. A "lack of scans and reference" is frankly just an excuse to antagonize the supporters as there are multiple profiles without them and still nothing has been done to correct them. If this kind of behaviour is allowed to continue then I might as well be forced to seek retribution through my own means and with that said, let's get down to business.
ELECTRICITY MANIPULATION
This isn't even where the resistance comes from in the first place.This is from Anos shrugging off the effects of <Jirasd> in volume 1. The feat itself is quite clear, but there is more at play than just tanking a lightning bolt. Jirasd is what’s known as origin magic, or magic that has been greatly amplified due to being drawn from a specific origin. Such magic has a caveat though; It works on everyone except the origin of the magic in question. Wouldn’t you know it, Anos is the one who invented Jirasd, so he naturally isn’t affected by it - not due to his own innate resistance, but due to a weakness of origin magic in general.
The resistance stems from Jerga being unaffected by <Jirasd> by protecting himself with his magic power by expelling it from his body, those unable to resist it are reduced to ashes by the heat of the lightning.
Ice Manipulation, Matter Manipulation & Transmutation
Misha's opponent failed to resist it because Misha's powers became more potent. Anti-magic can resist it as shown with the opponent strengthening her defenses. Why would she waste her magic on such a mundane action otherwise? If one were to look closely at the surrounding context, they'd find the attempt at resistance failed because Misha had just gained a massive increase to her abilities as I said above.This stems from the claim that anti-magic can cancel the effects of Misha’s Eyes of Creation. For reference, Misha uses this ability exactly once, in volume 4 part 1. The one instance of her using this ability shows her transmuting someone into ice; Nobody ever resists it, and she doesn’t even use it against anyone else to begin with. I am legitimately baffled as to where this came from. As seen below, anti-magic would no longer be considered a form of resistance even if this feat was legit.
Light Novel Volume 4 Chapter 13
Misha's opponent despite already putting both Misha and her sister on the verge of death becomes flustered when her power awakens and this isn't because she awakens, it's because of what she does after that which is basically creating a god which is something that should be impossible for any Demon to do. In the scenario, it's also noted how Misha's new found ability has already shown what it's capable of when she reconstructed her opponent's weapon (an item from the mythical era) and the same was noted for her sister Sasha's eyes which had grown to the point it could affect the weapon but not Linka herself.
Sasha and Misha are equal and opposite, two sides of the same coin etc and it is something that has been portrayed since the beginning. Despite specializing in opposite attributes, the effect/potency of one's ability is always equal to that of the other however Misha with the magic tool she created (a god) surpassed what her sister is capable of.
Exploring the magic tool itself, the Demon King's Castle Delzgade, the body of the God of Destruction which holds that authority, the greatest magic artifact owned by Anos, a 3-dimensional magic formation used for the activation of greater magic such as the one done in the prologue of the first volume which split the entire world into 4.
There is a hierarchy between the gods with the higher ranked one's holding more authority that the lower ones and the god of destruction is currently at the top with the current information.
Misha created a watered down version of it and used it to augment her powers.
Against what everyone is made to believe, Misha does continue to use this ability later on and will continue to use it as the story progresses. In Volume 4 part 2, she uses it again and this time even with the boost from the pseudo demon king castle, she still required her sisters assistance to affect her target. Melheis and the others are having their abilities amplified by Avos Dilhevia's. Sasha had to use her eyes to nullify the amplification before Misha could affect them.
Avos uses the spell to absorb massive amounts of magic from mixed blood demons which she uses to enhance the effectiveness of <Gyze> a spell which bestows one's magic to their subordinates. This magic she is giving them is so immense it manifests as an ominous sludge around them.
Web Novel Chapter 265
This same exact scenario will still play out again but with different opponents. Aisha's eyes of creation and destruction have to break through the anti-magic of 2 of the 4 Evil Kings in order for her to affect their weapons
アイシャが、イージェスとカイヒラムを睨む。
その<創滅の魔眼>が、彼らの反魔法を突破し、魔弓と魔槍に干渉する。
「……おのれぇ……」
「……話に違わぬ、凄まじい魔眼よ……」
ディヒッドアテムとネテロアウヴスは瞬く間に氷の結晶へと変わる。
その魔眼から逃れるように、冥王と詛王は飛び退いた。
「逃がさないわ」
「どれだけ離れても視界にいる限り同じ」
アイシャが追撃するように<創滅の魔眼>に魔力を込め、二人を睨みつける。
Aisha glances at Aeges and Kaihilam.
Her <Magic Eye of Creation and Destruction> breaks through their anti-magic and interferes with their magic bow and spear.
"......, you ......"
"......, just as its said, you've got a great magic eye. ......"
Dihidatem and Neteroauvus are instantly transformed into ice crystals.
To escape their magic eyes, the Netherworld King and the Curse King jumped back.
"I won't let you escape."
"No matter how far away you are, as long as you're in my sight, it's the same."
その<創滅の魔眼>が、彼らの反魔法を突破し、魔弓と魔槍に干渉する。
「……おのれぇ……」
「……話に違わぬ、凄まじい魔眼よ……」
ディヒッドアテムとネテロアウヴスは瞬く間に氷の結晶へと変わる。
その魔眼から逃れるように、冥王と詛王は飛び退いた。
「逃がさないわ」
「どれだけ離れても視界にいる限り同じ」
アイシャが追撃するように<創滅の魔眼>に魔力を込め、二人を睨みつける。
Aisha glances at Aeges and Kaihilam.
Her <Magic Eye of Creation and Destruction> breaks through their anti-magic and interferes with their magic bow and spear.
"......, you ......"
"......, just as its said, you've got a great magic eye. ......"
Dihidatem and Neteroauvus are instantly transformed into ice crystals.
To escape their magic eyes, the Netherworld King and the Curse King jumped back.
"I won't let you escape."
"No matter how far away you are, as long as you're in my sight, it's the same."
Aisha puts magic power into her <Eyes of Creation and Destruction> to chase after them and glares at them.
At that moment, the response of the <I Gneas> that was gripping me disappeared.
As if blocking Aisha's view, a huge purple lightning bolt poured down making a rattling sound.
"Just as I thought."
A light voice echoes.
It is not that of Aeges, nor of Kaihiram.
"It's the Magic Eye of Transgression, isn't it?"
At that moment, the response of the <I Gneas> that was gripping me disappeared.
As if blocking Aisha's view, a huge purple lightning bolt poured down making a rattling sound.
"Just as I thought."
A light voice echoes.
It is not that of Aeges, nor of Kaihiram.
"It's the Magic Eye of Transgression, isn't it?"
Web Novel Chapter 243
"Look at the moon of creation, Aisha."
At Arcana's words, the silver-haired girl looks up to the heavens.
"The Magic Eye of Transgression is said to have even reshaped the order of the gods. If the same power is in your magic eye, then it can change the moon of creation from a crescent moon to a half moon."
Aisha poured magic power into the Magic Eye of Creation and Destruction and looked at the crescent moon Artieltonoa.
For a moment, she thought the outline of the moon was blurred, but there was no change.
"Isn't that impossible......?"
"I don't have enough magic."
Aisha concentrated her magic power in her Magic Eye, but it did not seem to have enough power to reshape the Moon of Creation.
[...]
"Then I'll give you the magic."
Sparkling, the snow and moon flowers begin to radiate a silvery white light.
"Snow is ephemeral, melting and vanishing. It leaves a remnant in your heart."
Fluttering snow and moon flowers fall on Aisha's body, which melts and turns into her magical power.
The Magic Eye of Creation and Destruction captures the moon in the sky.
Artieltonoa's radiance increased slightly.
[...]
Aisha stares at the moon, putting all her magic power into her Eyes of Creation and Destruction.
The outline of the moon blurred for a moment, and then the crescent moon of Artieltonoa, which had been hidden by the order, was gradually revealed.
With a shimmering and fantastic silvery white light, it turned into a half moon.
The power of the falling snow, moon, and flowers increased, protecting those standing on the ground even more firmly.
At Arcana's words, the silver-haired girl looks up to the heavens.
"The Magic Eye of Transgression is said to have even reshaped the order of the gods. If the same power is in your magic eye, then it can change the moon of creation from a crescent moon to a half moon."
Aisha poured magic power into the Magic Eye of Creation and Destruction and looked at the crescent moon Artieltonoa.
For a moment, she thought the outline of the moon was blurred, but there was no change.
"Isn't that impossible......?"
"I don't have enough magic."
Aisha concentrated her magic power in her Magic Eye, but it did not seem to have enough power to reshape the Moon of Creation.
[...]
"Then I'll give you the magic."
Sparkling, the snow and moon flowers begin to radiate a silvery white light.
"Snow is ephemeral, melting and vanishing. It leaves a remnant in your heart."
Fluttering snow and moon flowers fall on Aisha's body, which melts and turns into her magical power.
The Magic Eye of Creation and Destruction captures the moon in the sky.
Artieltonoa's radiance increased slightly.
[...]
Aisha stares at the moon, putting all her magic power into her Eyes of Creation and Destruction.
The outline of the moon blurred for a moment, and then the crescent moon of Artieltonoa, which had been hidden by the order, was gradually revealed.
With a shimmering and fantastic silvery white light, it turned into a half moon.
The power of the falling snow, moon, and flowers increased, protecting those standing on the ground even more firmly.
Aisha's eyes are incapable of affecting the order of creation despite having the ability to do so and the reason given is a insufficient magic power however, when given the magic power required, her eyes easily affect it.
Potency of abilities in the verse works on a system of magic power. The more magic power you have, the more potent your ability. Between users of relative amounts of magic power, the one with the larger one will be victorious as resistance can easily be overcome by increasing the amount of magic power used for the ability. Similarly, if it's a resistance based on anti-magic, you can strengthen/amplify that resistance by adding more magic power to your anti-magic which is exactly what Linka did in an attempt to resist however the magic power increase Misha received from the castle was greater than what Linka could manage.
Resistance also increases in proportion to one's magic power and characters gain new abilities by gaining magic power which is precisely how Misha gained this Matter Manipulation and Transmutation.
FIRE MANIPULATION
First off, there's also no scan provided to even justify this removal. Why was the word of someone who hasn't even read the series acknowledged? Yes, I say they haven't read the series with 100% certainty.As mentioned before, anti-magic is not a valid means of granting resistance to anything. However, despite looking through every volume for a source on magic power extinguishing flames, I couldn’t find anything, so I’m fairly certain this needs to go.
Volume 3 Chapter 41
The divine light in that scan is referring to Jerga's magic power and by expelling that magic power, not only was he unharmed, he also dispersed the flames.
Volume 1 Chapter 25
Another obvious case can be found here. Anos directly spawns a fire spell inside Ivis Necron (dura neg) and it explodes burning him from the inside out. In the end Ivis was unscathed by it and Anos simply remarks "as expected of a demon from the Era of Myths, you're tough". So it applies to all Demons from that era and Anos is easily at the top of the pecking order.
Volume 4 Chapter 68
So what does this have to say for the argument "anti-magic doesn't grant any resistance to fire"?
Light Novel Volume 5 official TL which will be out in October will also show dragons resisting not just flames but other elements with magic power so for now, here's the Web Novel version
聖剣の力を全開放し、レドリアーノは幾重にも重ねた魔法障壁の力を、数十倍に増幅させる。
「――はああぁぁぁぁぁぁぁっ!!」
彼はベイラメンテで大きく円を描く。
すると、受けとめていたブレスの力の方向が反転し、竜たちに跳ね返った。
ゴオオォォォォッとその炎に焼かれながらも、しかし、竜の群れは怯むことはない。その頑強な鱗と皮膚、そして魔力がブレスを完全に防いでいた。
Releasing the full power of the holy sword, Ledriano amplifies the power of the magical barrier several tenfold.
"--Haaaaaaaaaah!
He draws a big circle with <Bailamente>.
Then the direction of the breath he was receiving was reversed and bounced back to the dragons.
The dragons were not intimidated, however, even as they were consumed by the flames. Their tough scales and skin, as well as their magical power, completely protected them from the breath.
「――はああぁぁぁぁぁぁぁっ!!」
彼はベイラメンテで大きく円を描く。
すると、受けとめていたブレスの力の方向が反転し、竜たちに跳ね返った。
ゴオオォォォォッとその炎に焼かれながらも、しかし、竜の群れは怯むことはない。その頑強な鱗と皮膚、そして魔力がブレスを完全に防いでいた。
Releasing the full power of the holy sword, Ledriano amplifies the power of the magical barrier several tenfold.
"--Haaaaaaaaaah!
He draws a big circle with <Bailamente>.
Then the direction of the breath he was receiving was reversed and bounced back to the dragons.
The dragons were not intimidated, however, even as they were consumed by the flames. Their tough scales and skin, as well as their magical power, completely protected them from the breath.
ANTI-MAGIC
Now to finally get into the most irksome thing here.
For all that is said to be a failure on the supporters part to explain what it is, they end up doing worse at it. It is in this section where the lack of knowledge, contradictions and deceit will be exposed.Anti-magic is a topic frequently brought up in Maou Gakuin, but Anos’ page does a poor job of explaining what exactly it is. As the name implies, it acts as protection from magic, but it is decidedly not a resistance - as shown here, it’s a very distinct entity from magic resistance, and overreliance on it actually weakens one’s magic resistance. It is directly shown to interfere with or outright cancel magic, so it is moreso power nullification than “resistance” to any individual power.
Beginning with what may very well be the biggest contradiction here, "what is anti-magic?" is so clearly stated in the very scans they used
It's clearly defined as a magic of magic resistance which contradicts everything else implied by the OP in the thread. If anti-magic is magic of magic resistance, how is it a completely separate entity from magic resistance?His newly donned dark-gray armor had activated a circle of magic resistance
The 2nd scan is simply a very specific application of anti-magic that has been modified to affect only teleportation. This is pretty obvious because the characters there are capable of using every other form of magic freely (for reference, Anos summoning that spell in his opponent happened in this same place). No, it is not because Anos resists it as he said himself that it's made so that even he can't use teleportation there. Similar to this, there's another specific application which prevents the use of only telepathy and yes, other forms of magic continue to be used and there's others such as blocking the power of magic eyes which is ESP, information analysis, enhanced senses, clairvoyance etc.
The 3rd scan is the worst of them all. It is worded as "outrightly cancel out" to which everyone fell for hook, line and sinker. The scan shows he used anti-magic to sever the chains binding them not erase, nullify, cancel them out as was implied. Anti-magic was used to cut chains, of which the mechanics will be explained later so what does cutting chains have to do with power null?
As regards to the portion saying anti-magic weakens a character's resistances
This argument is false and likely stems from a lack of reading comprehension.His dependence on such toys had weakened his resistance to magic
Making an analogy with a similar sentence, "Humanity's dependence on technology has lowered their ability to survive without it".
How many people can live comfortably without relying on any of the amenities modern civilization has to offer? Compared to the World's total population, it's as close to zero as possible however, at some point in time, it was indeed possible for everyone to survive without it.
With this analogy it becomes clear the statement implied Zepes over reliance on such items has has led to the degradation of his natural resistance and not "usage of anti-magic weakens one's resistance", even more so that it says "such items" and not "anti-magic", in other words, it is referencing his armor specifically not anti-magic. This character is simply too reliant on items to resist magic for him that his own personal resistance has declined.
Anti-magic isn't cast as a barrier (it isn't always a barrier in the first place but can be made to be one), this is clearly shown in the manga. Anti-magic is simply cast on the castle itself to defend against magical attacks, there's no extending or protruding barrier to actually stop physical contact with the castle.Given its nature as power null, it has an obvious weakness: No means of countering physical attacks. Anos states this pretty clearly when he encounters a castle with anti-magic barriers in place and responds by casually yeeting it.
This proves absolutely nothing as there's nothing preventing one from actually making contact with the castle and just yeeting it.
Same as the one above, this is meaningless as this is a door and a spell is cast/imbued onto the door itself not the opening to once again make it withstand magical attacks. There is nothing stopping the door from operating as a door by simply pushing or pulling it.This is again mentioned when Anos bypasses a door protected by anti-magic by pushing it open,
Nothing is being bypassed here and it's infact stated that the door is covered in anti-magic to prevent others from "magically destroying it" not impede entrance & exit or opening & closing to which Anos says to 'think about it. If you only concentrate on destroying it, you won't be able to move forward. If you can't destroy it, just open it normally' which he does.
Further context: it is a giant ass door heavy enough that opening it is considered more impressive than the feat of yeeting a castle.
Casual? Sword swing? Where's the casual sword swing happening exactly? Not to mention that this is the faint layer of anti-magic he keeps around him at all times, in other words, it is weak.and yet again when a casual sword swing from Ivis tears apart Anos’ anti-magic.
Let's diverge into some powerscaling. Ivis had the added force of falling under gravity added to his attack. Apart from that, he is also accelerating faster than the rubble alongside him while falling showing he is using flight to actively increase his falling speed so no this isn't casual neither is it a swing, Anos also notes the weapon is an item from the Age of Myths the era were everything and everyone is ridiculously strong compared to the current era. The era where a random twig lying on the ground is more powerful than zepes demon sword that can amplify power tenfold.
Also, the OP so conveniently decided to leave out the part where Anos states he took the attack on purpose to draw Ivis closer.
Further supporting context, later on in this fight, the guardian god of time who is stronger than Ivis shows up and adds his power to Ivis own so that makes Ivis at least 2x stronger and later on he fuses with the weapon of the god which amplifies his power again by 20x. Later Anos easily blocks attacks from this stronger Ivis with an anti-magic barrier (barrier application) while having less than 1/3 of his full power. So a 40x stronger Ivis is unable to break the same barriers when Anos is over 66.66% weaker and he only breaks the barrier when he uses damage boost by pouring more magic power into his attacks proving Anos did allow himself to be harmed.
I'll just copy what is already on the profile.Finally, Anos’ anti-magic is easily overcome by Lay’s sword attacks.
Information Manipulation (Type 2; At the core of every spell there is an existing theoretical and practical formula that allows it to function. A magical blueprint that determines the function of the magic. In addition, altering the spell formula changes the properties of the magic itself).
So that's what makes magic function and in relation to that, what does Lay's sword do? Demon Sword <Initio>, has the ability to directly slip past magic, cutting through the spell formula itself thus neutralizing it. It isn't overcoming the defense, it's using hax to nullify it.
Even the very scan shows it's cutting through the formula not the barrier, did anyone read the scans at all?
It's either one contradiction or the other or the scan presented already proving the points false. Give me a break.
It's either one contradiction or the other or the scan presented already proving the points false. Give me a break.
Okay let's assume the hax aspect of the sword is nonexistent, are you trying to tell me that a force field being broken by AP that's higher than it's durability= force field not being capable of taking physical attacks? What is that slap dash logic? Guess I'll have to go make a CRT so that it should be noted on every profile with force field creation, whether said force field has been broken by a physical attack or not because that would mean it can't take physical attacks.
Come to think of it, there was a previous back and forth regarding an issue pertaining to this. If you're unable to recall what I'm referring to, allow me to jog your memory, does..."limited invulnerability to purely physical attacks", ring any bells?From this, it’s quite clear that anti-magic is anti-magic alone; Regardless of what form it takes, enough raw muscle can bypass it.
Volume 2 Chapter 19
I guess this is an opportune time to bring this back. A weapon without magic power, is incapable of breaking this barrier, infact, in-verse any weapon without any magic power regardless of the material it's fashioned from or the strength of it's wielder will simply be destroyed if it clashes with a true magic sword/weapon.
Regarding the scenario in the scan, Anos says he is capable of breaking the barrier with his bare hand but not the sword a contradiction? I think not as there is no logical explanation why a strike done with a weapon will lack more force compared to a strike done bare handed.
Pressure= Force/Area. A bladed weapon would apply the force of a swing along the thin edge of its blade dealing more damage and the weight of the weapon itself also increases the force of the blow and despite this Anos says the sword can't destroy it but his bare hand can and what Anos bare hand has that the sword lacks is magic power and to prove this point, he specifically overcomes this predicament by supplying the weapon with his own magic power.
Since I'm the one handling the scaling, this version of Anos massively scales above a 6-C value while his opponent at best is only in 7-B so going by the baseline of these tiers it amounts to a massive difference of over 2,200x.
Volume 3 Chapter 23
Even ignoring what I've said above, a character is unharmed by Anos smashing them into the ground and while it's a durability feat, both their own anti-magic barrier and that of the weapon plays a part in it.
False. Anti-magic is a magic of magic resistance it's in the scan.So anti-magic is pretty clearly power null, which means it should be removed from the resistance tabber and moved to Anos’ power null justifications.
Force fields are not indestructible, hit them with AP greater than their durability and they will break. A force field is an immaterial shield. More magic power= more AP and anti-magic being broken through AP or any other means does not discredit its ability to resist magic. Even if broken it can be immediately cast again and it being broken depends on how it is used (barrier or no barrier). Profiles index abilities & resistances obtained through other means such as equipment. Do we remove these things from the profile simply because they can be taken away/destroyed in battle?However, this is just the start of the issues. Anti-magic barriers and armor are reliant on the discrepancy in power level between caster and defender;
A completely baseless argument. Barriers cast by a couple of nobodies in the magical era. What is such a barrier that would have a durability of 7-B at best supposed to do against an attack with at least 6-C AP? This specific Jirasd used by Leorg in this scenario wouldn't even scratch an anti-magic barrier created by the mainstream of characters in the current volume (Would also like to see how well this point ages when the same anti-magic is used to block attacks that destroy multiverses).Against origin magic like Jirasd, a typical anti-magic barrier won’t hold because of the vast increase in power.
Volume 4 Chapter 37
This chapter introduces us to Ancient runes used in times long before the mythical age. With proper understanding of ancient runes, one can take a little amount of magic power and amplify it infinitely/indefinitely.
In a competition, Anos opponent uses these runes to cast his own spell, <Mezoavus> while Anos uses origin magic <Jirasd> and ofc, this one scales to cast that ate at least 4-C.
The opponents spell overpowers Anos' own and continues heading straight for him which he blocks with an anti-magic barrier so now I ask, what does this say for the argument that anti-magic can't block a spell like <jirasd> when it blocks spells that far outstrips it?
Ignoring that completely, this is a matter of hax...power null vs resistance...so what does AP have to do with it? Does this wiki assume that power null that has only nullified something in tier 8 can do the same for tier 3?
Once again we are back to AP arguments. I grow tired of this, why wouldn't a 6-C attack break 7-A force fields?Ivis clearly states that Anos’ magic is far more powerful than his, which allows his anti-magic barriers to be torn apart
Arguably the flimsiest argument here with a good laugh at itself to boot.(this also showcases another flaw of anti-magic: it’s possible to bypass barriers entirely if you just cast a spell inside of it lol).
It is possible to just bypass barriers entirely if you just cast a spell inside of it, was this scan even read?
Anos cast the magic, inside of Ivis (inside his body which is a feat of dura neg) so what was meant here by inside the barrier? I guess it's a normal thing so everyone should feel free to add dura neg to every profile since conjuring attacks inside somebody is a very easy thing everyone can do.
Great, what is a High 8-C barrier supposed to do against a freaking 7-B opponent especially when these tiers are determined by the magic power in these attacks and defenses? The build up of contradictions here is insane. The argument being made is for power null and still there is no power null happening just stronger attacks overpowering weaker defenses.Finally, while there are likely other examples, volume 2 makes explicit mention of how anti-magic is reliant on the power difference between the magic and anti-magic;
Yes, a characters AP can simply be increased by adding magic to the attack. The amount of magic power a person has dictates their stats that's how the universal energy system works.Any anti-magic can be overcome if you just… make your magic stronger. So while anti-magic is power null, it has a very clearly defined limitation in regards to its mechanics.
This isn't the Naruto verse that has normal chakra, more potent types of chakra so there's no such thing as making your magic stronger however, you deal more damage by increasing the magic power in your attacks. Statistics amplification can be achieved by releasing magic power from your body, magic power simply enhances what ever it is put into be it strength, speed, toughness, magic attacks, hax and resistance after all a forest which had it's river, mountain and vegetation blown away turning it into a wasteland would simply regenerate every thing overnight because it is overflowing with magic power.
There is no limitation to it's mechanism, the more magic, the more AP, hax layers, resistance layers simple as that.
I don't care about this one honestly. I never agreed with overpowering anti-magic to mean the attacker resists power null in the first place because it was never power null, now act 2 of volume 4 is out and there's an actual feat for Venuzdonoa. The eye's of destruction are not capable of nullifying Venuzdonoa's abilities so the sword should get its resistance to power null reinstated with that scan as well as a resistance to deconstruction (All abilities of the Eye is from destruction). Reference is Volume 4 Chapter 71.Notably, this would mean Venuzdonoa loses its resistance to power null, as it overcoming “layers upon layers of anti-magic” hardly means anything when it’s a sword, which is a physical attack.
CLOSURE
Anti-magic has several applications some deviating from its original purpose and that is magic resistance. At the end of the day, what the characters use to defend themselves is anti-magic be it by simply activating it like zepes armor or actually creating a barrier and whether that barrier can be broken or not is irrelevant.
Regarding the resistances it gives, that is case by case. Using the barrier to block fire, ice doesn't mean a resistance to those will be indexed which is the reason why Anos resistance to space-time manipulation doesn't come from an anti-magic barrier blocking attacks that cut through space-time...wait a damn minute, it's not there! He can catch attacks which cut through time-space with his bare hands.
Basically simply blocking magical attacks doesn't mean a resistance to that attack will be added however, when these characters wear these barriers of magic resistance like a 2nd skin and use it to overcome hax like space-time BFR, madness manipulation, transmutation, curse manipulation, statistics reduction, power nullification, conceptual manipulation, existence erasure etc, you can be sure as hell that it is a genuine resistance because no random ass shield is going to prevent something thay doesn't even require contact.
"Anti-magic" and "magic resistance" are terms used interchangeably. For example, from the same CRT
The same scan used to say anti-magic is just power null (the part involving the armor) is used for what they say requires "legit resistance" to body puppetry...see the contradiction here? This makes contradiction no. 2 in the CRT as regards the topic of anti-magic.This one’s pretty legit; It’s repeatedly confirmed that the ability to resist this is reliant on, well, resistance. So just add these scans and we’ll be good to go.
It is the very same armor used in the scan and it even mentions the armor is used to ward off/defend against/protect from all forms of magic not nullify magic so why does it so conveniently put it under power null in one case and resistance in the other just to match an agenda?
The terms "magic resistance" and "anti-magic" are being used interchangeably as even a quick google translate of the raws (about Zepes' armor) translates where magic resistance is used in the official TL as anti-magic same as a deepl translation of the web novel so the translators portray both as being the same. I've also inquired from @Chasekilleen about it and this is the response
As an aside, if any arguments that this is only resistance to magic and not resistance to a particular ability, come up, they would receive a hard no.
It is shown working on non-magical things like sound waves & vibrations and even physical attacks (shall be addressed later). In that scan, his heartbeat had to pass through the gaps in the armor to affect zepes and without those gaps it would've done nothing.
It is shown working on non-magical things like sound waves & vibrations and even physical attacks (shall be addressed later). In that scan, his heartbeat had to pass through the gaps in the armor to affect zepes and without those gaps it would've done nothing.
This resistance is from the Magic Eyes of Destruction which is said to be the ultimate form of anti-magic.
It is the ultimate form because of it's ability to destroy/nullify magic not just resist.
It's obvious the time stop wasn't nullified/erased/destroyed, only resisted infact, Sasha Necron is outrightly stated to have resisted the time stop of the guardian god of time with her eye's of destruction.
She was affected by said time stop when the eye's were not active however while already being frozen in time, these eye's activated on their own granting not just her but also extending it's effects to her sister as well. If the eyes don't grant this resistance, how did they activate when the owner was already frozen in time? It's even shown by the sequence of events were they slowly but surely resisted the ability not immediately being unaffected by it.
Volume 3 Chapter 22
Here as well the workings of the eye are depicted. Sasha while caught in a spell that induces paralysis and power nullification had to use the eye's to actually nullify the spell she didn't resist it even when the eye's were active.
Come to think of it, if anti-magic is power nullification, how do characters still use their magic while using anti-magic without interference? You're keeping power null around your body, how do you still summon a fire ball in your hand without the power null interfering with it?
In the specific applications like teleportation, telepathy, ESP, info analysis, clairvoyance it never nullified/negated the use of this ability. For teleportation, it doesn't stop you from activating it, it just blocks the shifting same for telepathy and mind reading it simply blocks/jams communication/transmissions (is jamming radio/electromagnetic waves now power nullification? Why is it power null here, because it utilizes magic to send and receive transmissions?) same goes for ESP, clairvoyance etc it prevents magic eyes from running analysis on you, locating/observing you so if it's power null why doesn't anyone go blind since it should be nullifying their sight?
At this point it should be obvious to anyone who has and hasn't read the story, both officially translated content and web novel alike. If you look, you'll find other feats of anti-magic taking not just magical attacks but physical ones as well and also being a means of resisting abilities and the same goes for magic power as shown here
彼女の乏しい魔力では、この緊縛牢獄への抵抗力がないのだろう。
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With her meager magical power, she would not be able to resist this bondage prison.
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With her meager magical power, she would not be able to resist this bondage prison.
「もう、みんなして。心配いらないわ。あれから魔力もずいぶん上がったし、毒への抵抗力だって強くなったんだから。致死性の毒だって耐えられるのに、お酒なんかで酔うはずないわ」
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I'm not going to let you guys down. Don't worry. My magical power has increased a lot since then, and my resistance to poison has become stronger. I can withstand lethal poisons, so I shouldn't be intoxicated by alcohol.
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I'm not going to let you guys down. Don't worry. My magical power has increased a lot since then, and my resistance to poison has become stronger. I can withstand lethal poisons, so I shouldn't be intoxicated by alcohol.
Raws and links are available for anyone doubting the translation, staff are also welcome to seek out the opinion of a translation helper.
There's still more. Reno one of few individuals who resist <Beno Ievun> won't easily resist it anymore because she is weakened from expending nigh-infinite amounts of magic power.
Summing all these up, apart from determining and enhancing physical attributes & AP, you have magic power inducing reactive evolution such that they gain new abilities, layering hax to overcome resistance, determining the potency of one's hax, layering one's resistance, determining the level of one's resistance and this will go on in the series that it affects entire universes, their laws & concepts. It isn't a "your ability doesn't work because I am stronger", it's "my abilities and resistance become more potent the stronger I am". In the end the stronger ones end up having the more potent hax because this system affects those as well.
"Strength", "power" etc are all just synonyms used to still refer to how much magic power one has as you'll notice some of the scans such as this one switching between magic power, magic, strength, power and it has even been used to showcase a difference in skill, knowledge and intelligence so claiming the use of "strength" and "power" as an indication of a reliance on power difference is simply a name and association fallacy same as saying anti-magic is power nullification simply because of it's name.
CONCLUSION
The changes from the CRT should be reverted and the following abilities and resistances should be added in the profile
- Electricity Manipulation (ability and resistance as for all the talk about the resistance, the ability itself is missing)
- Limited Invulnerability to physical attacks via anti-magic
- Resistance to Sound & Vibration Manipulation for anti-magic resisting those types of attacks.
- Durability Negation
- Resistance to Space-time manipulation
Agree (5): @DarkDragonMedeus, @LordGriffin1000 , @DarkGrath, @Elizhaa, @Dereck03
Neutral:
Disagree: Theglassman12 (Anti-magic resistance, resistance to fire, electricity, addressed nothing else), Deagonx (Same as glassman)
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