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Iirc Kaguya sucked him dry. His eyes became inactive.Kaguya ate them? Or something? Or did they just "Bite Za Dusto" aka go blind in a similar fashion to Izanagi/Izanami?
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Iirc Kaguya sucked him dry. His eyes became inactive.Kaguya ate them? Or something? Or did they just "Bite Za Dusto" aka go blind in a similar fashion to Izanagi/Izanami?
Only thing i disagree is base bort> post time skip code. He isn't. Boruto is just relative to him. Might be a bit weakerthe time for coping that regular shinobi will compete with shippuden God Tiers like Madara and Kaguya should ended when the Five Kage were Otsutsuki level to an extent in 4 different interpretations of the same arc.
as much as many of us dislike it we all knew it was coming.
even if we're generous the scaling chain looks like this:
Shinju 4 ~ Base Bort > Post-TS Code > Pre-TS Code > V2 Jigen >> Adult Naruto and Sasuke > Shippuden God Tiers
the only part that can even be coped about is if all the Shinju can hang with Bort like the Bug Shinju did. But how many of you are willing to bet that the Shinju based on Bug is massively stronger than the one based on Sasuke Uchiha?
call it bad writing, extreme powercliffing, or goofy scaling, whatever you call it, it's just the reality.
You could say this or you could also read the manga when boruto said the essence of ishikki power in codes karma altered them? So they evolved with part of ishikki power added to theirs? Why would you still then rate them as inferior to kaguya 10 tails? At that point they are simply in a different state of power.I wish it were like that, honestly, but it's not what it seems. It's simply impossible to convince anyone who isn't a fan that these characters are tier 5 and FTL, Juvenile Juubi is inferior to Kaguya's Juubi, as it has not yet become a divine tree. The divine tree is their final stage, even these shinju imply that. Shinjus are just a part of the chakra of this juubi that gained consciousness, it is not even the complete chakra of the juubi, and Jura himself says that he and Kurama are similar, they are a part of the juubi that have consciousness. They are basically the same thing, if in the next chapters Himawari manages to keep up with him, it will mean a certain equivalence between a fraction of Kurama and Jura, that would be horrible on the scale, there would be no way to defend it.
It's just early denialism. There's no beating it.You could say this or you could also read the manga when boruto said the essence of ishikki power in codes karma altered them? So they evolved with part of ishikki power added to theirs? Why would you still then rate them as inferior to kaguya 10 tails? At that point they are simply in a different state of power.
I have been stabbed by a knife. Does that count?He who thinks the sword is mightier than the pen has not been stabbed with both.
I’ve got a knife I can stab you with
Only if I can stab you back with my sword.I’ve got a knife I can stab you with
Trust me bro, you won’t be alive to stab me backOnly if I can stab you back with my sword.
Why don't you come over here and find outTrust me bro, you won’t be alive to stab me back
I’ve got a knife I can stab you with
Only if I can stab you back with my sword.
Trust me bro, you won’t be alive to stab me back
Why don't you come over here and find out
NoDo you guys think BoS Sai would have stood a chance against base sasuke on their first meet
Only boruto is getting a separate profileWe’re 10 chapters in and no profile has been given to any of the time skip characters.
The dude that “said” he’s working on them is the reason none of us have attempted to, it’s been 6 months dawg
I also think Sarada should get a new profileOnly boruto is getting a separate profile
Or rather, should be getting
Newly relevant characters like himawari or jura are fair game to anyone interested in making them
Everyone else should get a crt or something
Not a new profile
Not that there's anything particularly new to add for most of them
Himawari and Jura should wait a couple of more months seeing as they might get retconned or something in the future or even higher upgraded.Only boruto is getting a separate profile
Or rather, should be getting
Newly relevant characters like himawari or jura are fair game to anyone interested in making them
Everyone else should get a crt or something
Not a new profile
Not that there's anything particularly new to add for most of them
Does Himawari even have a single feat yet?Himawari and Jura should wait a couple of more months seeing as they might get retconned or something in the future or even higher upgraded.
Post War to Momoshiki Arc, Chojirou, Kurotsuchi & Darui goes from Sub-Biju Level and Gaara, Sub-Madara to Above Kaguya, based on a lot of ppl here accepting the Dimension Fight at face value, vs Naruto, whom while they got stronger, hasn’t had the same supposed jump in power, despite becoming Kage last out of the current batch.How so?
Does Himawari even have a single feat yet?
Naruto became >Kaguya in his base form.Post War to Momoshiki Arc, Chojirou, Kurotsuchi & Darui goes from Sub-Biju Level and Gaara, Sub-Madara to Above Kaguya, based on a lot of ppl here accepting the Dimension Fight at face value, vs Naruto, whom while they got stronger, hasn’t had the same supposed jump in power, despite becoming Kage last out of the current batch.
He was still an active Shinobi and actively training and yet despite having a far higher base, far stronger chakra, his progression is not comparable to the other Kage’s, despite them becoming Kage’s long before him.
If that makes sense.
His Base Form was already strong enough to threaten his Chakra Mode anyways. So there isn’t that big a gap between the two.Naruto became >Kaguya in his base form.
ok?We’re 10 chapters in and no profile has been given to any of the time skip characters.
The dude that “said” he’s working on them is the reason none of us have attempted to, it’s been 6 months dawg
it def is but to each their ownIdt Uzuhiko is coming back tbh…
THAT was pretty much the shittiest scaling in the franchise. Base<Kyuubi Enhanced<KN0<KN1<KN2<KN3<KN4<Sage Mode<KN6<KCM<MKCM<KM<KA<SPSM<KSPSM. There is no reason his Base Form should be anywhere NEAR KSPSM, ESPECIALLY not with full Kurama.His Base Form was already strong enough to threaten his Chakra Mode anyways. So there isn’t that big a gap between the two.
All this changed because even his base is now enhanced by six path chakra.THAT was pretty much the shittiest scaling in the franchise. Base<Kyuubi Enhanced<KN0<KN1<KN2<KN3<KN4<Sage Mode<KN6<KCM<MKCM<KM<KA<SPSM<KSPSM. There is no reason his Base Form should be anywhere NEAR KSPSM, ESPECIALLY not with full Kurama.
Dragon Battle of the Gods type shit. At least Goku's multipliers are consistent.All this changed because even his base is now enhanced by six path chakra.
He does though?Post War to Momoshiki Arc, Chojirou, Kurotsuchi & Darui goes from Sub-Biju Level and Gaara, Sub-Madara to Above Kaguya, based on a lot of ppl here accepting the Dimension Fight at face value, vs Naruto, whom while they got stronger, hasn’t had the same supposed jump in power, despite becoming Kage last out of the current batch.
He was still an active Shinobi and actively training and yet despite having a far higher base, far stronger chakra, his progression is not comparable to the other Kage’s, despite them becoming Kage’s long before him.
If that makes sense.
Maybe when her MS gets unveiledI also think Sarada should get a new profile
I can add mitsuki and Kawaki time skip key.
The fact you’d just nonchalantly accept a Potential 50K bump w/o any evidence is distressing. And you’re using that vagueness to to try and justify the absurb jump that these characters are accepted to have.The wiki has it at 2x. As the least possible difference
It can be 5 or 50,000 for all we know
And it’s because of that, we’re cooked…^
exactly why I can just sit back and laugh as yall cope, because the writers don't gaf, and I choose not to either
Imagine if we scaled Boruto characters purely off of Boruto series featsThe boruto writers don't give a f*****k, we're trying to apply shippuden logic to a series that obviously is somewhat straying away from that logic
That’s not in question though. If all 5 Kage surpassed Madara and Hashirama and more Chunin are becoming Jonin level, all of that would still prove what you said, but there are levels to this still.Also isn't it interesting that the Era that has:
- Every village united in peace for the first time ever.
- Has everyone fight a war where they fought their entire history of their strongest predecessors via Edo Tensei.
- Every Shinobi sees that there is a whole higher tier of power and jutsu that none of them considered before via Madara, the Juubi, and Kaguya.
is far stronger than the previous ones?
Sure, that’s to be expected.Not unlike groundbreaking technology setting the standard for an era of more advanced and far better tech going forward.
The Village System is around 80 years old, not Shinobi History.like let's be frr Shinobi history is like 80 years old during the Naruto Era and prior it was just feuding nations with no real understanding of how chakra worked or its origins.
Disagree. It is and it isn’t portrayed that way due to lack of Information. Like, Senjutsu Chakra is really just imitation SPC and it’s far weaker than SPC. The lack of knowledge of SPC doesn’t mean they can match it easily or gain the benefits of it of it outside of Senjutsu. It really is a godly power unattainable by mere humans.Lets not pretend that Juubi Power is some Godly, Ethereal power when the only reason it is portrayed as such in the Naruto era is because they were uninformed.
Yes, powered by dozens of Jonin for majority of a 24hr period. Idk how supports the argument?the Cloud Village, two years after the war made a laser powered by jonin that can teleport the moon, in Naruto, moving/creating a meteor was treated like a divine act.
Like who? Iirc, no Boruto Era Academy Student has Biju Level Jutsu.in the Boruto Era there are Academy Students with Bijuu Level Jutsu, Bijuu are literal pieces of the Juubi and powerful even by people like Madara.
That doesn’t prove they could defeat her either. North Korea is weary of US backed SK and has been planning for decades for a war. That doesn’t mean SK wouldn’t fold their shit if push came to shove due to the overwhelming military superiority…Not to mention we're told every village was always wary and prepping for a threat like Kaguya.
Please do bring receipt's. Leave no room for doubt.I'm not even gonna mention some novel statements and Bort Databooks you can use that almost blatantly put people on Otsutsuki level that dont deserve it, as well as the canon anime content supporting it even more.
Being fiction doesn’t mean you shouldn’t want sound logic and consistency in the narrative you’re reading.also for people who seem to forget it is fiction
sure it still would but thats not whats being portrayed,That’s not in question though. If all 5 Kage surpassed Madara and Hashirama and more Chunin are becoming Jonin level, all of that would still prove what you said, but there are levels to this still.
a Shinobi by definition are the military force of a village.The Village System is around 80 years old, not Shinobi History.
No one knew Hagaromo or the Juubi existed before Obito explained it to them.Disagree. It is and it isn’t portrayed that way due to lack of Information. Like, Senjutsu Chakra is really just imitation SPC
I mean they did, and even if they didn't nothing says that they couldnt match the power with knowledge either.and it’s far weaker than SPC. The lack of knowledge of SPC doesn’t mean they can match it easily or gain the benefits of it of it outside of Senjutsu.
nothing you've said has supported that.It really is a godly power unattainable by mere humans.
Dozens of Shinobi during the war arc could barely match a fireball from Madara.Yes, powered by dozens of Jonin for majority of a 24hr period. Idk how supports the argument?
Sumire has Nue, who can obliterate the leaf and is stronger than the new era leaf Jounin like Sai. even people like Kakashi were there.Like who? Iirc, no Boruto Era Academy Student has Biju Level Jutsu.
comparing real-life militaries to an in-story statement. you gotta realize that it is a person writing their character dialogues with a purpose in mindThat doesn’t prove they could defeat her either. North Korea is weary of US backed SK and has been planning for decades for a war. That doesn’t mean SK wouldn’t fold their shit if push came to shove due to the overwhelming military superiority…
you might see a CRT on it eventually if the person who found it wants to.Please do bring receipt's. Leave no room for doubt.
ofc we want sound logic, but we're not always gonna get sound logic.Being fiction doesn’t mean you shouldn’t want sound logic and consistency in the narrative you’re reading.
Imagine if we scaled Boruto characters purely off of Boruto series feats