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Has really no one made a new Nasuverse discussion thread yet? Ok then this'll do I guess
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Completely disregarding the concept of "context" and just saying you can't in any way, shape, or form sure sounds like applying non-existent standards to me, not sure about dodging though.How is answering to his example "dodging the argument"?
The Zues thing can be discussed in some CRT later as iirc some people disagree with not scaling or something so eh, for the Ea thing there is this "Reality Warping (His weapon was created to tear the Texture known as the Age of Gods from the planet's surface)" So maybe just add more to this explaination.Looks good... very well done, Psycho.
I will reserve any other commentary for after I check the translations of the Lostbelt to make sure the official translation didn't do something stupid, but I will point out right here that we need to take off any comparisons to Zeus. The Olympus section made it very clear that Zeus had been holding back this whole time, and was engaging almost all of his power and the Chronos Crown support system that gives him access to all the Authorities to manage Olympus. So Ivan's scaling, and any other indirect scaling from other Gods to Zeus needs to be kicked into the trash.
They can still perfectly scale to Artemis though. Before the reveal, everything indicates the Machine Gods are comparable to each other for the most part, especially since Zeus had to wrestle control off some of the Gods to decisively win back when they had their disagreement millennia ago.
Edit: Oh yeah, he should also have something similar to Ea. He wasn't gonna burn the Scandinavia "World" but the Scandinavia "Texture", evident by the fact Scandinavia is perfectly complete in the Modern World. Reality erasure? Not sure what to call it but it merits being added.
The fact the official translations tend to be mediocre at best is so funnyI will reserve any other commentary for after I check the translations of the Lostbelt to make sure the official translation didn't do something stupid
No, Tier 2 has no ''Low'' or ''High'' subcategoriesDoes 2-B+ even exist?
"+" symbol
Currently misused to an extraordinary degree on the wiki, the "+" symbol should be used when the Attack Potency has been calculated to be greater than the average (arithmetic mean) of the high end energy level and low end energy level of a particular tier.
The "+" symbol can also be used if there exists a calculation extremely close to the arithmetic mean, and characters scale above the calculated feat by a wide margin, for example being able to defeat enemies on such levels with a single casual attack.
Example: Average of Large Building level is: [2 Tons (low end) + 11 tons (high end)]/2 = 6.5 Tons (the arithmetic mean). All energy levels from 2 Tons to 6.5 Tons should be listed as Large Building level, whereas all energy levels from 6.5 Tons to 11 Tons should be listed as Large Building level+.
Malignant Information
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Just as there are curses in real life, curses, known as “malicious information,” also exist in the Photonic Abyss that is SE.RA.PH.
This malicious information is comprised of negative thoughts and sentiments born from the actions of sentient beings.
Proclamations of evil. Self-serving lies, compounding upon themselves endlessly. Demagoguery that leverages straw men to enslave the masses. All of these forms of negative information are cancers that afflict the entirety of a community by corrupting that which is positive: the truth.
In the material world, this negativity would eventually fade away per its transient nature, but in SE.RA.PH., a world made entirely of data, malicious information is a foulness that erodes its territories.
All of the malicious information that has been recorded since humanity created a language-based culture is disposed of on the Far Side of the Moon. At first, only “useless information” was thrown away there, but once billions of pieces of malicious information accumulated, the mass began to manifest as a sludge that bled into reality.
The idealized, clean history of human society is recorded on the Near Side of the Moon, while the dreadful history of humanity’s terrible crimes is recorded on the Far Side of the Moon.
For virtual beings, who subsist on spiritrons, malicious information could be considered “junk food,” complete with the accompanying rush.
In the past, a certain Al planned to consume this massive amount of energy and control the Moon Cell, but it gave up on its plan in the final stages. It is said to have sunk into the depths of the Far Side of the Moon.
Far Side of the Moon
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This refers not to the side of the Moon that you cannot see from the Earth, but to the other side of the Moon Cell’s internal structure.
The inner workings of the Moon Cell are divided into the Near Side and the Far Side, top and bottom, each in the shape of a half-moon.
The Far Side of the Moon is somewhat analogous to a giant “hell” that lies beneath the Earth’s crust.
Because the Moon Cell trashes information that it cannot understand, as well as unneeded divergences in human history, to its Far Side, that “side” of the Moon is a pool of chaos where innumerable curses and delusions flourish.
I am pretty sure there is a scan that definitively equates possibilities with whole parallel worlds, rather than just simply as information.The actual assumption that is used to establish this consistency is that the Moon Cell has information on all of the infinite possibilities which, apparently, must manifest itself as actual literal timelines being harbored inside the Moon Cell instead of just as information. That and the ending all timelines thing from the Extra anime, which was added to the conclusion that timelines are infinite.
You would be right about this point so long as infinite information is equatable to infinite energy and thus equates to infinite 3-dimensional magnitudes of power, but this point is contradicted by the above scan I just showed you, which clearly equates possibilities to actual timelines or parallel worlds, which implies that anything that has to do with said possibilities, such as the infinite amount of information that the Moon Cell contains, would inherently be 4-D rather than 3-D.But tackling the information thing by itself, even if we assumed all of this information was equatable to energy, and that it was indeed infinite in volume, it would just be High 3-A. That information would need to have 4-D power, hence infinite information would make infinite 4-D power.
I'm not that well-versed when it comes to discussions about how infinities should work and such, so I won't respond to this and leave it up for someone else to answer.Which was another issue I had, the implication that the Moon Cell has infinite amounts of data. If it had recorded infinite amounts already, all of the infinite possibilities would be already recorded. Yet the Moon Cell still records, and hasn't interrupted its observation role. Unless the recorded possible universes in the Moon Cell and the possible universes in the real world are two sets of infinity, and the real world possible universes was a bigger infinite set than the one in the Moon Cell, how does the Moon Cell have both infinite recorded information yet records more? It would have a 1:1 complete set of information.
Q: Are the three routes of "Fate/stay night" parallel worlds existing at the same time? I was curious since I was how it would look to Zelretch.
A: They're parallel... sort of. But if Zelretch was observing, it'd become true, and my feelings on the matter is that I'd rather two routes disappear if one was true.
If all of these became possible at the same time, the other routes would become meaningless.