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One Piece Chapter 1093 : Luffy vs Kizaru (Official Translation)

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dog, imagine if kizarus clones have comparable stats to normal kizaru, that would be busted.


man i hope odas cooking something for sanji cuz hes currently the only strawhat with vegapunk right now

also bonney is fighting marines even though she got hit with the dome lazers, pretty impressive.
 
Heoj said:
dog, imagine if kizarus clones have comparable stats to normal kizaru, that would be busted.
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Could that possibly be awakening? Or just more control over his powers?

I don’t think I remember any logia doing that… maybe besides monet? Idk
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Lucci using his awakening already?! Now I wanna know what Zoro is using to fight that? If Zoro is using just Santoryu, then either Santoryu Zoro downscales from Casual Gear 5th, or monke was right and we shouldn't have Lucci scale to Gear 5th.

Although I'll wait for raws before actually asking these scaling questions. Still though, I'm curious to see how Zoro is faring against Awakened Lucci.
 
Mr.Cinos15 said:
Lucci using his awakening already?! Now I wanna know what Zoro is using to fight that? If Zoro is using just Santoryu, then either Santoryu Zoro downscales from Casual Gear 5th, or monke was right and we shouldn't have Lucci scale to Gear 5th.

Although I'll wait for raws before actually asking these scaling questions. Still though, I'm curious to see how Zoro is faring against Awakened Lucci.
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I hope for Lucci's sake that Zoro is using Armament and he isn't.
 
Mr.Cinos15 said:
Lucci using his awakening already?! Now I wanna know what Zoro is using to fight that? If Zoro is using just Santoryu, then either Santoryu Zoro downscales from Casual Gear 5th, or monke was right and we shouldn't have Lucci scale to Gear 5th.
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There's two answers:
  1. Luffy is always serious, there's no casual gear 5th.
  2. monkeman wasn't right, his reasons for it not scaling were literally "it's a call back"
 
Let's see how the fight actually turns out.

But tbh, Santoryu Buso Zoro downscaling from Yonko isn't the worst thing. Santoryu Buso Zoro was overpowering Buso King who without Buso overpowered a 1030 Zoro who could bitchsmack Yonko-level Kaifu and survive the Hakai.

Also, Nitoryu Buso Zoro matched S-Hawk who alarmed BB.

BUT PLEASE ODA LET LUCCI SHINE FOR ONE MORE FIGHT. ALL I ASK
 
Eminiteable said:
There's two answers:
  1. Luffy is always serious, there's no casual gear 5th.
  2. monkeman wasn't right, his reasons for it not scaling were literally "it's a call back"
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His other reasons for scaling were "Luffy annihilated Lucci in like 3 hits after that."
 
It makes more sense for luffy to be going all out in his stats tho, since he was mad at the fact lucci attacked Atlas
 
ZKillerz said:
It makes more sense for luffy to be going all out in his stats tho, since he was mad at the fact lucci attacked Atlas
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Ah Atlas, the being who infuriates me scaling-wise due to her one real feat being a gag one.

On a related note, how strong do you guys think Base Luffy is with no Buso, Hao, or Gears?

High 7-A? 6-B? Somewhere in-between?
 
Eseseso said:
Ah Atlas, the being who infuriates me scaling-wise due to her one real feat being a gag one.

On a related note, how strong do you guys think Base Luffy is with no Buso, Hao, or Gears?

High 7-A? 6-B? Somewhere in-between?
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6-B.

He can't be far below his durability.
 
ZKillerz said:
I think there's a difference between serious and going all out. Someone can be serious yet holding back or not fighting to their full capacity.
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ZKillerz said:
It makes more sense for luffy to be going all out in his stats tho, since he was mad at the fact lucci attacked Atlas
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I don't necessarily disagree with your point, assuming I understand you correctly. Obviously, we shouldn't scale Lucci to levels of Luffy that weren't shown in their exchange, such as higher-level moves or hao infusion, just based on the fact that he always fights seriously. However, at the same time, I don't agree with claiming that Luffy arbitrarily held back. In the case of Lucci, we scale him to Gear 5th + Buso, as that's the level he was shown to match, and nothing more. Claims that Luffy was using less than this level of power seem like just baseless downplay based on a personal agenda.
 
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