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So the purpose of this thread is to both revise and discuss the current stamina and intelligence ratings.
A Pokemon profile standards page was made and it has the bare minimum used for all of them.
Now the question is, what stamina do we use for pokemon? and also what specific intelligence ratings should we give to some specific pokemon?
As of right now i know that
-Machamp gets Genius intelligence in combat due to knowing all forms of martial arts
-Alakazam and Metagross get genius to extraordinary genius due to both thinking faster than supercomputers and the former having an IQ of 4000 and the latter having an even more intelligent mega evo. Metagross' intelligence downscale to his pre-evolutions accordingly.
-Blipbug and Dottler should scale to above average and Orbeetle should be at least Gifted
My suggestions are to make 2nd stage and 3rd starter pokemon scale to ''Gifted' and in addition in here is support for 3rd stage pokemon in general being 'Gifted' in battle and here are the reasons:
Decidueye "It fires arrow quills from its wings with such precision, they can pierce a pebble at distances over a hundred yards." which proves his extreme skill level in terms of arrow shooting, we've got Sceptile "The leaves that grow on its arms can slice down thick trees. It is without peer in jungle combat."
We have greninja "It appears and vanishes with a ninja's grace. It toys with its enemies using swift movements, while slicing them with throwing stars of sharpest water." "...Greninja's swift movements confound its opponents, and it can compress water into sharp-edged throwing stars." "With the grace of a ninja, it slips in and out of sight to attack from the shadows."
Emboar "It has mastered fast and powerful fighting moves. It grows a beard of fire."
Dewott "As a result of strict training, each Dewott learns different forms for using the scalchops."
Servine "They avoid attacks by sinking into the shadows of thick foliage. They retaliate with masterful whipping techniques."
Inteleon "Its nictitating membranes let it pick out foes' weak points so it can precisely blast them with water that shoots from its fingertips at Mach 3."
G-max "It has excellent sniping skills. Shooting a berry rolling along over nine miles away is a piece of cake for this Pokémon."
As of now we also have Dewott's "Its exquisite double-scalchop technique is likely the result of daily training, and it can send even masters of the blade fleeing in defeat".
Sawk "Desiring the strongest karate chop, they seclude themselves in mountains and train without sleeping."
Vikavolt "Vikavolt flusters opponents with acrobatic flying maneuvers. This creates an opening for it to deliver an electric beam attack."
I also suggest scaling all fighting type pokemon to 'Gifted' due to the concentration of highly skilled lower stage fighting mons
Mienfoo "They have mastered elegant combos. As they concentrate, their battle moves become swifter and more precise." (would make mienfoo scale to gifted)
Crabrawler "Its hard pincers are well suited to both offense and defense. Fights between two Crabrawler are like boxing matches."
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Now for the next part i want to discuss Stamina and Intelligence ratings for Legendaries.
Some are obvious like Extraordinary genius for Mewtwo (created a super complex lab from scraps in a short time frame, that lab having latest complex technology and mechanisms as well as a perfected cloning machine that clones superior pokemon to the originals in less than a minute. In comparison Team Rocket's scientists could only successfuly clone Mewtwo from Mew and that took them ages to do, despite having the latest tech).
Some are more unclear like Groudon and Kyogre.
So my suggestion is to have the minimum of "Gifted" in combat for all of them except maybe the likes of Manaphee.
Deoxys should be naturally Gifted (Deoxys emerged from a virus that came from space. It is highly intelligent and wields psychokinetic powers. This Pokémon shoots lasers from the crystalline organ on its chest). It was also able to go toe to toe with Mewtwo so there's that.
Ultra Beasts and those who scale from them should also be Gifted since they manhandle average fully evolved pokemon and Buzzwole stomped a few Machamp.
Calyrex should scale to at least Gifted intelligence since it was stated to have ruled Galar at one point
Kubfu should be gifted "Kubfu trains hard to perfect its moves. The moves it masters will determine which form it takes when it evolves."
Urshifu should probably scale to Genius in combat since it is extremely well trained and it has refined its personal style to the max "Inhabiting the mountains of a distant region, this Pokémon races across sheer cliffs, training its legs and refining its moves."
I would also like to propose scaling ALL legendaries shown capable of speech to average intelligence at minimum since all of the ones who have spoken have shown higher cognitive ability than your average pokemon.
Now the main question comes to this...
What should the Creation duo scale to? I say duo cause Arceus is clear but what about Palkia Dialga and even Giratina? This is something i don't get and thus i need help with this one.
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Stamina.
As for stamina i believe that superhuman stamina should be added by scaling from Riolu who can do this: "Its body is little yet powerful. It can crest three mountains and cross two canyons in one night." and Bulbasaur "It can go for days without eating a single morsel. In the bulb on its back, it stores energy".
This should scale to everyone except for the likes of magikarp.
If there are any other suggestions surrounding this then please let me know.
Overall:
Proposals:
-Alakazam and Metagross to Genius/E.Genius
-Machamp to Genius in combat
-Gifted in combat for 3rd stages
-Starters get Gifted in combat for 2nd and 3rd stages
-All fighting types get Gifted in combat in all stages
-All Legendaries get Gifted in combat
-Deoxys is Gifted normally
-Calyrex is Gifted normally
-Stamina is above Superhuman for all
Needs to be discussed:
-Intelligence rating for CT except Arceus
-Stamina ratings need discussion
A Pokemon profile standards page was made and it has the bare minimum used for all of them.
Now the question is, what stamina do we use for pokemon? and also what specific intelligence ratings should we give to some specific pokemon?
As of right now i know that
-Machamp gets Genius intelligence in combat due to knowing all forms of martial arts
-Alakazam and Metagross get genius to extraordinary genius due to both thinking faster than supercomputers and the former having an IQ of 4000 and the latter having an even more intelligent mega evo. Metagross' intelligence downscale to his pre-evolutions accordingly.
-Blipbug and Dottler should scale to above average and Orbeetle should be at least Gifted
My suggestions are to make 2nd stage and 3rd starter pokemon scale to ''Gifted' and in addition in here is support for 3rd stage pokemon in general being 'Gifted' in battle and here are the reasons:
Decidueye "It fires arrow quills from its wings with such precision, they can pierce a pebble at distances over a hundred yards." which proves his extreme skill level in terms of arrow shooting, we've got Sceptile "The leaves that grow on its arms can slice down thick trees. It is without peer in jungle combat."
We have greninja "It appears and vanishes with a ninja's grace. It toys with its enemies using swift movements, while slicing them with throwing stars of sharpest water." "...Greninja's swift movements confound its opponents, and it can compress water into sharp-edged throwing stars." "With the grace of a ninja, it slips in and out of sight to attack from the shadows."
Emboar "It has mastered fast and powerful fighting moves. It grows a beard of fire."
Dewott "As a result of strict training, each Dewott learns different forms for using the scalchops."
Servine "They avoid attacks by sinking into the shadows of thick foliage. They retaliate with masterful whipping techniques."
Inteleon "Its nictitating membranes let it pick out foes' weak points so it can precisely blast them with water that shoots from its fingertips at Mach 3."
G-max "It has excellent sniping skills. Shooting a berry rolling along over nine miles away is a piece of cake for this Pokémon."
As of now we also have Dewott's "Its exquisite double-scalchop technique is likely the result of daily training, and it can send even masters of the blade fleeing in defeat".
Sawk "Desiring the strongest karate chop, they seclude themselves in mountains and train without sleeping."
Vikavolt "Vikavolt flusters opponents with acrobatic flying maneuvers. This creates an opening for it to deliver an electric beam attack."
I also suggest scaling all fighting type pokemon to 'Gifted' due to the concentration of highly skilled lower stage fighting mons
Mienfoo "They have mastered elegant combos. As they concentrate, their battle moves become swifter and more precise." (would make mienfoo scale to gifted)
Crabrawler "Its hard pincers are well suited to both offense and defense. Fights between two Crabrawler are like boxing matches."
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Now for the next part i want to discuss Stamina and Intelligence ratings for Legendaries.
Some are obvious like Extraordinary genius for Mewtwo (created a super complex lab from scraps in a short time frame, that lab having latest complex technology and mechanisms as well as a perfected cloning machine that clones superior pokemon to the originals in less than a minute. In comparison Team Rocket's scientists could only successfuly clone Mewtwo from Mew and that took them ages to do, despite having the latest tech).
Some are more unclear like Groudon and Kyogre.
So my suggestion is to have the minimum of "Gifted" in combat for all of them except maybe the likes of Manaphee.
Deoxys should be naturally Gifted (Deoxys emerged from a virus that came from space. It is highly intelligent and wields psychokinetic powers. This Pokémon shoots lasers from the crystalline organ on its chest). It was also able to go toe to toe with Mewtwo so there's that.
Ultra Beasts and those who scale from them should also be Gifted since they manhandle average fully evolved pokemon and Buzzwole stomped a few Machamp.
Calyrex should scale to at least Gifted intelligence since it was stated to have ruled Galar at one point
Kubfu should be gifted "Kubfu trains hard to perfect its moves. The moves it masters will determine which form it takes when it evolves."
Urshifu should probably scale to Genius in combat since it is extremely well trained and it has refined its personal style to the max "Inhabiting the mountains of a distant region, this Pokémon races across sheer cliffs, training its legs and refining its moves."
I would also like to propose scaling ALL legendaries shown capable of speech to average intelligence at minimum since all of the ones who have spoken have shown higher cognitive ability than your average pokemon.
Now the main question comes to this...
What should the Creation duo scale to? I say duo cause Arceus is clear but what about Palkia Dialga and even Giratina? This is something i don't get and thus i need help with this one.
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Stamina.
As for stamina i believe that superhuman stamina should be added by scaling from Riolu who can do this: "Its body is little yet powerful. It can crest three mountains and cross two canyons in one night." and Bulbasaur "It can go for days without eating a single morsel. In the bulb on its back, it stores energy".
This should scale to everyone except for the likes of magikarp.
If there are any other suggestions surrounding this then please let me know.
Overall:
Proposals:
-Alakazam and Metagross to Genius/E.Genius
-Machamp to Genius in combat
-Gifted in combat for 3rd stages
-Starters get Gifted in combat for 2nd and 3rd stages
-All fighting types get Gifted in combat in all stages
-All Legendaries get Gifted in combat
-Deoxys is Gifted normally
-Calyrex is Gifted normally
-Stamina is above Superhuman for all
Needs to be discussed:
-Intelligence rating for CT except Arceus
-Stamina ratings need discussion