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I’m in agreement with Curry’s take; a ban would be unnecessary, but I’m fine with a warning.
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I don't think Fuji should be free from punishment, in fact, I think a final warning before a much longer than 2 week ban for a potential next offense would be the best bet here.Personally I'm not a fan of Curry's response, especially the accusations that Ottavio is trying to get Fuji warned/banned. The fact of the matter is that this has been a repeated problem, as has been pointed out, and it's very reductive to paint this as such.
hasn't that kinda thing already happened?I don't think Fuji should be free from punishment, in fact, I think a final warning before a much longer than 2 week ban for a potential next offense would be the best bet here.
No lie I forgot about that whole situation.hasn't that kinda thing already happened?
back when the whole deidalius situation was a thing it was almost an even split between deciding to ban her (there's a distinction between ban and short ban, so i'd assume it's permanent) and no action as well as some inbetween.
i'd definitely consider that some variety of "final warning", there's a point where you have to realize how many times the same shit has happened in regards to conduct with other people and nothing has changed since, no?
You’re certainly right, although looking at this situation, the end result wasn't a warning (if I'm looking at this and her file correctly). Dei and Fuji's case was really just two people who did not like each other in the slightest and just needed to stop interacting, which was completed through a mutual ignore on their accounts.hasn't that kinda thing already happened?
back when the whole deidalius situation was a thing it was almost an even split between deciding to ban her (there's a distinction between ban and short ban, so i'd assume it's permanent) and no action as well as some inbetween.
i'd definitely consider that some variety of "final warning", there's a point where you have to realize how many times the same shit has happened in regards to conduct with other people and nothing has changed since, no?
Also, to confirm this, this is from herselfEdit: I’ll comment on this really quick, but I would like to add that Fuji is away on a “vacation” of sorts for the weekend and will most likely not being interacting with the site for that duration, so I think it’d be nice or at least somewhat respectful to wait to pass whatever judgment/conclusion is met until then.
Obviously, discussion should still take place, but I’d rather not see someone get a punishment while away on what’s meant to be a fun trip.
I'm definitely not against what you're saying here, it was primarily the framing of the report as "trying to get her warned/banned" that I was not a fan of.I don't think Fuji should be free from punishment, in fact, I think a final warning before a much longer than 2 week ban for a potential next offense would be the best bet here.
My personal advice would be to vent frustrations in private, whether that be in the dms of a trusted friend or a discord server. Obviously, we all have moments where we slip up and get frustrated, but it should be avoided, especially considering there's a delete feature for your own messages. Just taking a step back and going "Is this really necessary and will saying this get me in trouble." is always good to do, especially on a site focused on debating like this one.
You're right, I apologize to Ottavio, shouldn't have accused him like that.I'm definitely not against what you're saying here, it was primarily the framing of the report as "trying to get her warned/banned" that I was not a fan of.
Generally, I think the consensus seems to be a warning with the caveat of "If you do it again, you are getting punished harshly no matter what."I suppose we can decide after the vacation thing. And I do hope she enjoys that despite what's been going on here.
I was in favor of a light warning. I think there is reason to think the comment as-written was not rulebreaking. We tend to be much more flexible with what we allow people to say when someone is not being targeted, especially given the title and purpose of the thread.Some sort of action being taken: Planck69, Deagonx
Got it, I've changed my messageI was in favor of a light warning. I think there is reason to think the comment as-written was not rulebreaking. We tend to be much more flexible with what we allow people to say when someone is not being targeted, especially given the title and purpose of the thread.
I'm fine with a strict warning or a banGenerally, I think the consensus seems to be a warning with the caveat of "If you do it again, you are getting punished harshly no matter what."
I just didn't want to see her get a ban during a vacation and then come back confused and uninformed (I know I would hate that)
Tallying the votes, it seems we have
Fine with a strict warning: Maverick_Zero_X, CloverDragon03, Mr. Bambu, LordGriffin1000
Fine with a Light Warning: Deagonx
Fine with a ban or warning: Theglassman12
Neutral, leaning towards another chance: DarkDragonMedeus
Some sort of action being taken: Planck69
If I got anything wrong, feel free to correct me, and I'll change the tally, but the consensus seems to be a warning, with basically everyone agree some sort of action should be taken. I think it'd be best to end this off here with a warning (which I could gladly deliver the result to her) and we see what happens after she's back from her vacation and past that.
I'm fine with a warning or a ban. My issue with this is largely how many instances of warning they've had beforehand, even if this one is a relatively minor offense on its own.Generally, I think the consensus seems to be a warning with the caveat of "If you do it again, you are getting punished harshly no matter what."
I just didn't want to see her get a ban during a vacation and then come back confused and uninformed (I know I would hate that)
Tallying the votes, it seems we have
Fine with a strict warning: Maverick_Zero_X, Mr. Bambu, LordGriffin1000
Fine with a Light Warning: Deagonx
Fine with a ban or strict warning: Theglassman12, CloverDragon03
Neutral, leaning towards another chance: DarkDragonMedeus
Some sort of action being taken: Planck69
If I got anything wrong, feel free to correct me, and I'll change the tally, but the consensus seems to be a warning, with basically everyone agree some sort of action should be taken. I think it'd be best to end this off here with a warning (which I could gladly deliver the result to her) and we see what happens after she's back from her vacation and past that.
Just a reminder.Yes, a warning seems to be all that is necessary here.
Added, although I think with this rally it would be safe to say you guys can give her a warning. Obviously I am not staff so I don’t really have much of a day in what happens as the final judgment but I think that’d probably be the best course of action either when she gets back or now.Just a reminder.
Fair enough, I did go overboard.This appears self explanatory. We have made a distinction in the past between criticism for actions or arguments vs attempting to debase people you disagree with by insulting them. It's not serious, but egging on the weird overreaction to the GoW threads doesn't do us any good. A warning is sufficient.
It's fine, really. No biggie.You're right, I apologize to Ottavio, shouldn't have accused him like that.
Robo had other, worse comments that are now deleted. I felt they were less notable than Eseseso's continued ranting on the subject, but then I try to be lenient towards people also tossing me into the mix for voicing my opinion (a perhaps misguided approach but one that alleviates bias somewhat). If you feel it is sufficient, I would agree.On that note, I think Robo should be given a warning as well for this comment he made.
Cuz Deagon needs to pull staff out of somewhere to get his thread accepted
I have no horse in this race but it's obvious Deagon is just pulling everything he can to stall until he can summon staff that agrees with him or just wear down staff to agree with him and end this.
Kinda scummy when (as someone pointed out) the guy just closed past threads the second the grace period ended.
The fact that he lied about a standard, Wouldn't allow the thread to closed even if it had 2× disagrees even tho he attempted to get threads close on a basis of 1 vote difference,
Is pretty scumy behavior.
Then maybe Deagon shouldn't twist the rules to get his way and accept the fact that the votes against him are double those for him.
Dude is obsessed with nerfing God of War.
The thread should be closed already but as I said DeagonX is a sore loser.
Deagon certainly sees himself as being knowledgeable about this subject, even though now he's just being a sore loser...
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Pretty sure it goes to Wiki Vandalism Reports.huh, is reporting this kind of page meant to be here or wiki vandalism?, i mean since its not a page being vandalized but, a joke page being created