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Hello! I want to propose some changes to the Harry Potter/Wizarding World profiles:
Lastly, I have some feats from the books that could be interesting to try to calc:
Any thoughts on this?
Votes:
Make seperate book and movie profiles
Agree: (6) Gendolfgg1, Lord_Farquaad69420, DarkDragonMedeus, The_Fiend, Jamesthetaker, Jason_Courne
Disagree:
Neutral: (2) LightMoonWizard, NatzuX
Downgrade Dumbledore, Voldemort and Grindelwald to High 8-C
Agree: (3) Lord_Farquaad69420, DarkDragonMedeus, Jamesthetaker
Disagree: (4) LightMoonWizard, Gendolfgg1, The_Fiend (Credence's feat should be recalced first), Jason_Courne
Neutral: (1) NatzuX
Remove anything stating Grindelwald to be superior to Voldemort
Agree: (8) LightMoonWizard, Gendolfgg1, Lord_Farquaad69420, DarkDragonMedeus, The_Fiend, NatzuX, Jamesthetaker, Jason_Courne
Disagree:
Neutral:
Remove anything stating old Dumbledore to be weaker than before
Agree: (7) Gendolfgg1, Lord_Farquaad69420, DarkDragonMedeus, The_Fiend, NatzuX, Jamesthetaker, Jason_Courne
Disagree:
Neutral: (1) LightMoonWizard
Upgrade old Dumbledore to 9-B physically with subsonic reactions
Agree: (8) LightMoonWizard, Gendolfgg1, Lord_Farquaad69420, DarkDragonMedeus, The_Fiend, NatzuX, Jamesthetaker, Jason_Courne
Disagree:
Neutral:
Remove "higher in her prime" from McGonagall's profile
Agree: (5) Gendolfgg1, DarkDragonMedeus, The_Fiend, Jamesthetaker, Jason_Courne
Disagree:
Neutral: (3) LightMoonWizard, Lord_Farquaad69420, NatzuX
Add something like "The verse generally ranges from Wall level to Large Building level, though there have been instances of accidental or unconventional use of magic reaching [whatever tier Alderton's feat is] or even [whatever tier Innocenti's feat is]." to the Wizarding World verse page.
Agree: (7) LightMoonWizard (Disagrees with the verse ranging from Wall level to Large Building Level, rest is fine), Lord_Farquaad69420, DarkDragonMedeus, The_Fiend, NatzuX, Jamesthetaker, Jason_Courne (A bit conflicted)
Disagree:
Neutral: (1) Gendolfgg1
- Feats from the 8 Harry Potter movies should not be included. Alternatively the movie versions of characters should get their own profiles.
- Dumbledore, Voldemort and Grindelwald should be downgraded to High 8-C. Voldemort destroying the shield around Hogwarts is a movie-only thing, and Dumbledore's mist feat is based on a misunderstanding; the Harry Potter universe does not have any sort of mana, and magic works by individual spells having their own, individual effects. Therefore, the fact that Dumbledore knows a spell that has the effect of filling a city with mist, doesn't mean that he knows a spell that can blow up a certain area or harm someone with a certain durability.
- On the other hand, most of the wizards/witches who have profiles here, are extremely underrepresented in the Powers an abilities-section. I suggest that we could use the Magical abilities and skills-section on the Harry Potter Wiki as a starting point for a more complete representation of their abilities.
- Dumbledore and McGonagall's profiles seem to suggest that magic grows weaker with age. This is not true, and is at no point shown or even implied in canon. Power in Harry Potter is primarily knowledge and skill-based (how many and how powerful spells you know, and how good you are at using them), so power should, if anything, increase with age. As for Dumbledore's physical stats, he should scale to any other wizard/witch in the series. His supposedly slower reaction time is a lie told by him and Snape to make his injury seem less suspicious, and is disproved at the beginning of Half-Blood Prince when he draws his wand faster than Harry can see. Further, I suggest reading the Physical aptitude-section at the bottom of this.
- I would also like to mention that Voldemort is canonically more powerful than Grindelwald, stated multiple times in the books and on Pottermore. Their profiles seem to mix this up at times.
Lastly, I have some feats from the books that could be interesting to try to calc:
- Voldemort's fire serpent in Order of the Phoenix (Unlike in the movie, it likely isn't fiendfire, as he simply transmuted Dumbledore's fire rope.)
- McGonagall filling a corridor with fire in her duel with Snape in Deathly Hallows
- An unknown number of Death Eaters shaking Hogwarts at the beginning of the Battle of Hogwarts
- Augustus Rookwood killing Fred Weasley with an explosion during the Battle of Hogwarts
- A masked Death Eater getting hit by a conjured brick wall during the Battle of the Seven Potters
- A giant called Golgomath ripping off another giant's head in Order of the Phoenix
- Voldemort creating a shockwave that sent McGonagall, Slughorn and Kingsley flying towards the end of the Battle of Hogwarts
- Hagrid throwing Walden Macnair across the Great Hall towards the end of the Battle of Hogwarts
- Bellatrix sending the head of a giant, golden statue flying in Order of the Phoenix
- Voldemort's Avada Kedavra blowing a giant, golden statue into pieces in Order of the Phoenix
- Voldemort splitting a bridge in two in Half-Blood Prince
- A Death Eater/giant attack in Half-Blood Prince resulting in trees being uprooted and roofs being ripped off
- The Irish seeker, Aidan Lynch, crashing into the ground two times during the Quidditch World Cup final
- Thorfinn Rowle collapsing a ceiling during the Battle of the Astronomy Tower
Any thoughts on this?
Votes:
Make seperate book and movie profiles
Agree: (6) Gendolfgg1, Lord_Farquaad69420, DarkDragonMedeus, The_Fiend, Jamesthetaker, Jason_Courne
Disagree:
Neutral: (2) LightMoonWizard, NatzuX
Downgrade Dumbledore, Voldemort and Grindelwald to High 8-C
Agree: (3) Lord_Farquaad69420, DarkDragonMedeus, Jamesthetaker
Disagree: (4) LightMoonWizard, Gendolfgg1, The_Fiend (Credence's feat should be recalced first), Jason_Courne
Neutral: (1) NatzuX
Remove anything stating Grindelwald to be superior to Voldemort
Agree: (8) LightMoonWizard, Gendolfgg1, Lord_Farquaad69420, DarkDragonMedeus, The_Fiend, NatzuX, Jamesthetaker, Jason_Courne
Disagree:
Neutral:
Remove anything stating old Dumbledore to be weaker than before
Agree: (7) Gendolfgg1, Lord_Farquaad69420, DarkDragonMedeus, The_Fiend, NatzuX, Jamesthetaker, Jason_Courne
Disagree:
Neutral: (1) LightMoonWizard
Upgrade old Dumbledore to 9-B physically with subsonic reactions
Agree: (8) LightMoonWizard, Gendolfgg1, Lord_Farquaad69420, DarkDragonMedeus, The_Fiend, NatzuX, Jamesthetaker, Jason_Courne
Disagree:
Neutral:
Remove "higher in her prime" from McGonagall's profile
Agree: (5) Gendolfgg1, DarkDragonMedeus, The_Fiend, Jamesthetaker, Jason_Courne
Disagree:
Neutral: (3) LightMoonWizard, Lord_Farquaad69420, NatzuX
Add something like "The verse generally ranges from Wall level to Large Building level, though there have been instances of accidental or unconventional use of magic reaching [whatever tier Alderton's feat is] or even [whatever tier Innocenti's feat is]." to the Wizarding World verse page.
Agree: (7) LightMoonWizard (Disagrees with the verse ranging from Wall level to Large Building Level, rest is fine), Lord_Farquaad69420, DarkDragonMedeus, The_Fiend, NatzuX, Jamesthetaker, Jason_Courne (A bit conflicted)
Disagree:
Neutral: (1) Gendolfgg1
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