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Top 15 Strongest Characters for Every Tier

What does Ji Ning do in his 8-D key? Any passive?
No passives (at least none that matter offensively, he has passive future sight and danger sense).

He didn't do much in this key, but the first thing iirc was EE (which has 2 or 3 layers, nothing too impressive).
 
No passives (at least none that matter offensively, he has passive future sight and danger sense).

He didn't do much in this key, but the first thing iirc was EE (which has 2 or 3 layers, nothing too impressive).

Zi-O have type 2 Nondual and his first move as Oma is beating his enemies to death.
 

Zi-O have type 2 Nondual and his first move as Oma is beating his enemies to death.
Not sure why but I couldn't find Nonduality type 2 on his profile, only type 1, anyway, how good is his NPI? If they can't interact with each other it would just end in incon.
 
Not sure why but I couldn't find Nonduality type 2 on his profile, only type 1, anyway, how good is his NPI? If they can't interact with each other it would just end in incon.
His Non-Dual Type 2 are from Zi-O II onward. There's also one in Oma Profile who will be used in this fight anyway.

Can interact with Type 1 Abstract existence that merge with all of reality which also embodiment of heroism itself, type 1 concept, NEP, and break the face of Nondual Type 1 with a dropkick.

He also have Type 1 Conceptual Power Absorption, Layered time stop, Layered time erasure that bypass Type 1 and 4 Acausality with those characters also resist time hax that bypass the Type 1 and 4 Acausality, Type 1 Conceptual plot hax, and so on.
 
Containing opposing concepts is all it takes to have type 2 nonduality?
It's a lot more complicated than that. Basically to control the duality of past-present, he have to first control the duality of...everything inside that past and present first. In and out, light and dark, and everything in between to truly become the one true king of past and the future. Which promptly transcend himself from the concept of "time" itself, surpassing all duality within his own system.

 
sounds like Morghur walks over and he transforms from "sane man" to "inhuman screaming blob".

Morghur has 1-A passives in a 100 meter radius around him. And combat-applicable Immortality.
Fine by me, does Khatep and people below Morghur have something to put him down?
 
It's a lot more complicated than that. Basically to control the duality of past-present, he have to first control the duality of...everything inside that past and present first. In and out, light and dark, and everything in between to truly become the one true king of past and the future. Which promptly transcend himself from the concept of "time" itself, surpassing all duality within his own system.

Ehhhhh

I see, it's really not easy but I guess I could still try upgrading Ning to have Nonduality type 2 as well.

Also, since it was brought up in the OP of that CRT, do you know if in-verse quotes about Yin-Yang would help get Nonduality?
 
Also, since it was brought up in the OP of that CRT, do you know if in-verse quotes about Yin-Yang would help get Nonduality?
Potentially, if the yin and yang in question encompassed all duality then that might apply. Still, I'm not the guy who made the CRT. So you should ask Oma instead.
 
Fine by me, does Khatep and people below Morghur have something to put him down?
As I said, get yourself a halfway decent smurf and Khatep just loses, if you can beat him down and resist his magic there's not a whole lot he can do to people. Unfortunately resisting his powernull is out of the question but he's not out here making a Low 1-C not Low 1-C, and he's useless in a melee confrontation with no skill feats to speak of.

As for the rest, John's got 1-B haxes, and Jill is at wherever DC Cosmology is at nowadays in terms of smurfery, everyone else is either barely a smurf or not a 1-C smurf
 
Krog-Gar's pet undead Frog should probably go #2 in 10-B because

1: SCP is getting nuked so #1 ain't gonna be there anymore

2: Kaito's Plot Manipulation does not do Jack shit to Kroak's True Form because that thing is a 1-A omegasmurf layers above Shiro and as such Kroak just decides he didn't die and pops back up and haxes Shiro herself. Unlike most fantasy characters who are grey-line smurfs in their minds/souls, Kroak is 1000% a smurf in that regard and as such is unkillable because there are like a billion requirements to even interact with his true form.
 
Since you're the main Kamen Rider guy in this thread, is Zero-One a smurf in his H6A key? If he isn't then what are his powers that give him that spot?
The thing that he have in this key is his Quantum DODGE. If there's a chance to not die, he will dodge into that possibility. This even work even after he die.
 
Since you're the main Kamen Rider guy in this thread, is Zero-One a smurf in his H6A key? If he isn't then what are his powers that give him that spot?
to explain more (and copy paste the explanation i gave to ovens)
he still exists in all those possibilities, however he can choose one possibility to enforce his state in that possibility onto reality, kinda like how in games that have multiple saves you can just copy and past the same save in each file, and when you are successful in what you are doing, you save that point and then just copy paste it into every other save file
basically this mans has the ability to load any prediction of his at any point in time, even after he should have died, and he is wholly unfazed by anything that happened in the normal timeline
basically imagine if in an rpg you could have save files saved where each of them was based on a possible action the boss couldve taken and all the possible divergences from that action
and when your mc dies, instead what you do is load one of those advantageous saves where you are curb stomping the boss, and keep your state from that point in time
 
Got it, thanks.

So, two questions, is his offensive hax as good as his defensive hax? Can his Quantum Dodge protect him from incap as well?
It protects him from death post death, I see no reason why it won't work post incap as he would just 'dodge' into another possibility where the opponent doesnt use the incap across several trillions possibilities. He have molecular deconstruct, and his accelerated development is very funny (blitz opponent just as they accelerated development to blitz him, 50x Stat jump, precog into other people precog because he's just that good, and techniques copy). He can also naturally amp his speed to blitz peer opponent with a press of a button, with all of them have dealt with speed blitz via precog before.
 
Question, How do we deal with summons?

Like a lower tier is able to summon a higher tier? Can that be used for in the lower tier for this tournament, or is it not allowed.

Also, if a character is capable of "summoning" a later key that has a higher tier, is that allowed to be used for the lower tier battle?

 
Question, How do we deal with summons?

Like a lower tier is able to summon a higher tier? Can that be used for in the lower tier for this tournament, or is it not allowed.

Also, if a character is capable of "summoning" a later key that has a higher tier, is that allowed to be used for the lower tier battle?
Of course smurf summons are allowed.
 
Question, How do we deal with summons?

Like a lower tier is able to summon a higher tier? Can that be used for in the lower tier for this tournament, or is it not allowed.

Also, if a character is capable of "summoning" a later key that has a higher tier, is that allowed to be used for the lower tier battle?
Yes, this is Dunwich Horror entire gimmick, that rat bastard start off with summoning High 1-A daddy
 
Alright, my brain isn't dying so now I can type this.
  • So first up on the list is The Ultimate Sublimator Collective. They're a full-on Above Baseline 1-A Smurf when it comes to every single one of their abilities. This includes their Invulnerability, which negates physical attacks and damage, and their Nonduality, which in-verse makes them unaffected by basically every type of hax, whether it be normal, illusory, spiritual, reality, causal, probability, conceptual, etc, and their NEP, which is Type 2, is layered in all aspects. Offensively, they have almost every ability in the verse at their disposal and are essentially a 1-A God of themselves. By that, I mean, their body is one big universe/multiverse, and if at any point you go inside of their body, they have full authority to obliterate you in every possible way, including Concept Type 1, 2 & 3, Law, Information, Reality, Power Nullification and Modification, Death, Existence Erasure, etc.
    • So yeah they should get #2 in Low 2-C. From what I can tell there's really nothing the Chaos Gods can do in their Low 2-C Key. All their hax gets nullified or just doesn't affect the Sublimator, on the other hand, the Sublimator can affect them without issue. The only problem would probably be their Immortality, but seeing how zero-explanation was given, and their Regen isn't even High-Godly, the Sublimator can easily deal with Type 1 through 9.
  • Secondly, we have the True Gods, like Israel Diamond.
    • They should get #2 in Varies. So apparently Nyarlothep is Baseline High 1-A, which means the True Gods get to abuse the hell out of Joshua's Blessing. The Cthulhu Mythos just doesn't have good enough hax or resistances to combat it since they mostly just have to exist to win matches.
Next time this verse pops up here, it will either be because the Tiering System was updated and every verse got downgraded (Except this one, cause it's built different), or I finished the 3rd Novel and upgraded the verse to Tier 0. So you know, look forward to that.
 
Alright, my brain isn't dying so now I can type this.
  • So first up on the list is The Ultimate Sublimator Collective. They're a full-on Above Baseline 1-A Smurf when it comes to every single one of their abilities. This includes their Invulnerability, which negates physical attacks and damage, and their Nonduality, which in-verse makes them unaffected by basically every type of hax, whether it be normal, illusory, spiritual, reality, causal, probability, conceptual, etc, and their NEP, which is Type 2, is layered in all aspects. Offensively, they have almost every ability in the verse at their disposal and are essentially a 1-A God of themselves. By that, I mean, their body is one big universe/multiverse, and if at any point you go inside of their body, they have full authority to obliterate you in every possible way, including Concept Type 1, 2 & 3, Law, Information, Reality, Power Nullification and Modification, Death, Existence Erasure, etc.
    • So yeah they should get #2 in Low 2-C. From what I can tell there's really nothing the Chaos Gods can do in their Low 2-C Key. All their hax gets nullified or just doesn't affect the Sublimator, on the other hand, the Sublimator can affect them without issue. The only problem would probably be their Immortality, but seeing how zero-explanation was given, and their Regen isn't even High-Godly, the Sublimator can easily deal with Type 1 through 9.
  • Secondly, we have the True Gods, like Israel Diamond.
    • They should get #2 in Varies. So apparently Nyarlothep is Baseline High 1-A, which means the True Gods get to abuse the hell out of Joshua's Blessing. The Cthulhu Mythos just doesn't have good enough hax or resistances to combat it since they mostly just have to exist to win matches.
Next time this verse pops up here, it will either be because the Tiering System was updated and every verse got downgraded (Except this one, cause it's built different), or I finished the 3rd Novel and upgraded the verse to Tier 0. So you know, look forward to that.
I have barely read the third book but su zhou did not surpass the transcendants from what i've understand (the end was very metaphoric) so idk if it is possible to up the verse boundless. (And the 4th book is not related to the others novels)
 
I have barely read the third book but su zhou did not surpass the transcendants from what i've understand (the end was very metaphoric) so idk if it is possible to up the verse boundless.
He doesn't need to. It expands on stuff that I was too confused about to properly Tier.
(And the 4th book is not related to the others novels)
Yes, it is. It happens in the Sealed Multiverse though.
 
Alright, my brain isn't dying so now I can type this.
  • So first up on the list is The Ultimate Sublimator Collective. They're a full-on Above Baseline 1-A Smurf when it comes to every single one of their abilities. This includes their Invulnerability, which negates physical attacks and damage, and their Nonduality, which in-verse makes them unaffected by basically every type of hax, whether it be normal, illusory, spiritual, reality, causal, probability, conceptual, etc, and their NEP, which is Type 2, is layered in all aspects. Offensively, they have almost every ability in the verse at their disposal and are essentially a 1-A God of themselves. By that, I mean, their body is one big universe/multiverse, and if at any point you go inside of their body, they have full authority to obliterate you in every possible way, including Concept Type 1, 2 & 3, Law, Information, Reality, Power Nullification and Modification, Death, Existence Erasure, etc.
    • So yeah they should get #2 in Low 2-C. From what I can tell there's really nothing the Chaos Gods can do in their Low 2-C Key. All their hax gets nullified or just doesn't affect the Sublimator, on the other hand, the Sublimator can affect them without issue. The only problem would probably be their Immortality, but seeing how zero-explanation was given, and their Regen isn't even High-Godly, the Sublimator can easily deal with Type 1 through 9.
Is that 3 layers into 1-A? Cause ALL of the Chaos Gods' hax are 3 layers into 1-A. Just "being above baseline" isn't enough to handle them anymore.
  • Secondly, we have the True Gods, like Israel Diamond.
    • They should get #2 in Varies. So apparently Nyarlothep is Baseline High 1-A, which means the True Gods get to abuse the hell out of Joshua's Blessing. The Cthulhu Mythos just doesn't have good enough hax or resistances to combat it since they mostly just have to exist to win matches.
Next time this verse pops up here, it will either be because the Tiering System was updated and every verse got downgraded (Except this one, cause it's built different), or I finished the 3rd Novel and upgraded the verse to Tier 0. So you know, look forward to that.
Nyar is obliterating a Baseline High 1-A by noticing them soooo
 
Is that 3 layers into 1-A? Cause ALL of the Chaos Gods' hax are 3 layers into 1-A. Just "being above baseline" isn't enough to handle them anymore.
Joshua's Blessing goes brrr.
Nyar is obliterating a Baseline High 1-A by noticing them soooo
Unless Nyar is layers into High 1-A, which based on the Cosmology Page, they're not, then Joshua's Blessing takes care of any ability Nyar has.
 
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