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Kratos is Low 7-C take it or leave it tbh…
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I have seen some... disagreeable takes on Pokemon powerscaling lately on Youtube.Pokemon is the most downplayed verse offsite ngl. People fully ignore the pokedex feats (funnily enough some of the best feats come from actual anime or game feats) and claim they're written by 10 y/o trainers (spoiler alert, we just help with the research, the actual info is written by professors and we either help complete it or unlock it).
When you bring up actual visual feats they'll do their best to downplay them with some bs.
Sometimes it feels like it's specifically Pokemon that gets the brunt of that kind of downplay. "POKEDEXES MAKE NO SENSE, NO WAY POKEMON ARE MACH SPEED!! " mf Leon's Charizard breaks the sound barrier casually and that's with passengers on its back. People will ignore everything just so they can fit something into their personal idea of that thing.
I feel quite a lot of the takes for verses offsite is either horrible downplay or terrible wank ngl.Pokemon is the most downplayed verse offsite ngl. People fully ignore the pokedex feats (funnily enough some of the best feats come from actual anime or game feats) and claim they're written by 10 y/o trainers (spoiler alert, we just help with the research, the actual info is written by professors and we either help complete it or unlock it).
When you bring up actual visual feats they'll do their best to downplay them with some bs.
Sometimes it feels like it's specifically Pokemon that gets the brunt of that kind of downplay. "POKEDEXES MAKE NO SENSE, NO WAY POKEMON ARE MACH SPEED!! " mf Leon's Charizard breaks the sound barrier casually and that's with passengers on its back. People will ignore everything just so they can fit something into their personal idea of that thing.
Not gonna lie thats all you'll see off siteI feel quite a lot of the takes for verses offsite is either horrible downplay or terrible wank ngl.
This is also personally one of my vsbw pet peeves.offsite
Yeah, the strangely the Nintendo gang usually gets hyped up a non-stop in a lot of circles (Mario, Link and especially Kirby, for example) among non vs scalers, which makes it weird to hear about Pokemon downplay for everyone who isn't Arceus.I feel quite a lot of the takes for verses offsite is either horrible downplay or terrible wank ngl.
I am not reading allat. Can they avoid Kirby inhaling them? That's all that matters.Pokemon is the most downplayed verse offsite ngl. People fully ignore the pokedex feats (funnily enough some of the best feats come from actual anime or game feats) and claim they're written by 10 y/o trainers (spoiler alert, we just help with the research, the actual info is written by professors and we either help complete it or unlock it).
When you bring up actual visual feats they'll do their best to downplay them with some bs.
Sometimes it feels like it's specifically Pokemon that gets the brunt of that kind of downplay. "POKEDEXES MAKE NO SENSE, NO WAY POKEMON ARE MACH SPEED!! " mf Leon's Charizard breaks the sound barrier casually and that's with passengers on its back. People will ignore everything just so they can fit something into their personal idea of that thing.
I mean the kind which has none of that(screenshots/clips), its only a statement or explanation of an ability or feat or attack and a cite note alongside it.Depends, is it a screenshot or a clip?
something beyblade characters also suffer withI swear every single time I unironically see someone try to say yugioh characters cap at tier 10, I get closer to losing it, like MF are you just going to ignore that the cards are REAL and everything to do with DM and GX and 5Ds and ZeXaL in favor of "um ackshually, they just use cards, so they are human level."
I mean it isn't just that, we get like, explicit confirmation that these mfs scale to their cardssomething beyblade characters also suffer withwhats with me and beybladethey think just killing a character will mean winning battle like dawg you need to beat a big red dragon that will most likely one shot you if he goes all out
edit:not to forget that pegasus can fly into milky way within seconds so you wont even see bey coming at you and you are already at heavenly gates dawg
same goes for bey mfs although there is a bit of pis where they have to run away from collapsed buildings,volcanoes,natural disasters etc...They can pretty much take a hit from a beyblade and not get seriously injuredI mean it isn't just that, we get like, explicit confirmation that these mfs scale to their cards
where would he be due to in game feats?Low 1-C Kratos was honestly one of the most jarring things I encountered when I first joined the wiki. I know and accept all the lore feats but I don't think I've ever seen a character with a bigger contrast between in-game feats and lore scaling.
“No Pokémon is planetary because Cynthia in an out of context quote said so, also ignore the multiple feats that disproves this including the one like 10 minutes prior”.Pokemon is the most downplayed verse offsite ngl. People fully ignore the pokedex feats (funnily enough some of the best feats come from actual anime or game feats) and claim they're written by 10 y/o trainers (spoiler alert, we just help with the research, the actual info is written by professors and we either help complete it or unlock it).
When you bring up actual visual feats they'll do their best to downplay them with some bs.
Sometimes it feels like it's specifically Pokemon that gets the brunt of that kind of downplay. "POKEDEXES MAKE NO SENSE, NO WAY POKEMON ARE MACH SPEED!! " mf Leon's Charizard breaks the sound barrier casually and that's with passengers on its back. People will ignore everything just so they can fit something into their personal idea of that thing.
Ok, but have you ever ever considered: Meteor?Pokemon is the most downplayed verse offsite ngl. People fully ignore the pokedex feats (funnily enough some of the best feats come from actual anime or game feats) and claim they're written by 10 y/o trainers (spoiler alert, we just help with the research, the actual info is written by professors and we either help complete it or unlock it).
When you bring up actual visual feats they'll do their best to downplay them with some bs.
Sometimes it feels like it's specifically Pokemon that gets the brunt of that kind of downplay. "POKEDEXES MAKE NO SENSE, NO WAY POKEMON ARE MACH SPEED!! " mf Leon's Charizard breaks the sound barrier casually and that's with passengers on its back. People will ignore everything just so they can fit something into their personal idea of that thing.
“No Pokémon is planetary because Cynthia in an out of context quote said so, also ignore the multiple feats that disproves this including the one like 10 minutes prior”.
Somewhere in the tier 6 range with GoW3's weather and disaster feats.where would he be due to in game feats?
I think what's really funny about people ignoring the Pokedex (not just in versus debates, but in general) is that the franchise often goes out of its way to show that Pokedex entries are real, and it also goes out of its way to show that the player is not the one writing it.Pokemon is the most downplayed verse offsite ngl. People fully ignore the pokedex feats (funnily enough some of the best feats come from actual anime or game feats) and claim they're written by 10 y/o trainers (spoiler alert, we just help with the research, the actual info is written by professors and we either help complete it or unlock it).
The Macargo one is usually brought up, the one that says that is hot as the sun or something like that.I think what's really funny about people ignoring the Pokedex (not just in versus debates, but in general) is that the franchise often goes out of its way to show that Pokedex entries are real, and it also goes out of its way to show that the player is not the one writing it.
I think what's even funnier is that people who try to argue that the Pokedex doesn't make sense use basically the three or four exact same entries (that they probably heard from some YouTubers using them as examples in videos that are many, many years old) when the series gives explanations for why they work without destroying everything around them.
It's actual Pokedex entry says that it is 18,000 degrees Fahreinheit, or almost twice as hot as the surface of the sun (which is also the coolest part of the sun).The Macargo one is usually brought up, the one that says that is hot as the sun or something like that.
Also it's pretty obvious Pokéhumans aren't regular humans when psychic abilities, aura manipulation, straight up magic and more are all known phenomena for humans in Pokémon world to possess (if anything they're morelike mutants from Marvel and meta-humans from DC). Also there are Pokéhuman NPCs that are immortal and let's not even get started on all the nonsense professor Oak survives in the anime (from getting his soul ripped out to being sucked into a black hole) also Ash (a pokéhuman kid) can carry/push Pokémon more than double his body weight.It's actual Pokedex entry says that it is 18,000 degrees Fahreinheit, or almost twice as hot as the surface of the sun (which is also the coolest part of the sun).
Now, people reasonably wonder, well, why are things not burning or melting around it? Well, we've seen several times that Fire-Type Pokemon can control what they effect with their temperature and flames (for example, there was a Ponyta in the anime that burned Ash because it didn't trust him, even it's normal rider could ride it fine, and there was a more recent example in one of the Poketoons where a Macargo could essentially turn its heat on and off to heat or cool its Trainer's house).
and it's not like it is unique to specific individuals too. Hisuian humans get attacked by Pokemon constantly and live. This is the same game where any and all Pokemon, even a tiny lvl 1 bottom tier Magikrap, can shatter one of the boulders which block the road which if I remember correctly was like high end 9-B or low end 9-A.Also it's pretty obvious Pokéhumans aren't regular humans when psychic abilities, aura manipulation, straight up magic and more are all known phenomena for humans in Pokémon world to possess (if anything they're morelike mutants from Marvel and meta-humans from DC). Also there are Pokéhuman NPCs that are immortal and let's not even get started on all the nonsense professor Oak survives in the anime (from getting his soul ripped out to being sucked into a black hole) also Ash (a pokéhuman kid) can carry/push Pokémon more than double his body weight.
It all just feeds into the lore that Humans and Pokémon were one species plus other implications from everyone's favorite lore dump library in the Sinnoh regionwhich includes PokémonxHuman relationships, cannibalism and genocide. I like how all this is considered "kid friendly" but gambling with fictional currency is where the line is drawn in an industry that's invested with mircotransactions and gacha with actual money.
Yeah, Pokémon humans are genuinely, as the kids say, "built different."Also it's pretty obvious Pokéhumans aren't regular humans when psychic abilities, aura manipulation, straight up magic and more are all known phenomena for humans in Pokémon world to possess (if anything they're morelike mutants from Marvel and meta-humans from DC). Also there are Pokéhuman NPCs that are immortal and let's not even get started on all the nonsense professor Oak survives in the anime (from getting his soul ripped out to being sucked into a black hole) also Ash (a pokéhuman kid) can carry/push Pokémon more than double his body weight.
It all just feeds into the lore that Humans and Pokémon were one species plus other implications from everyone's favorite lore dump library in the Sinnoh regionwhich includes PokémonxHuman relationships, cannibalism and genocide.
Well, those lines aren't in the English versions of the games (or are at least downplayed a lot), and they got rid of the game corners because of EU laws about gambling in games aimed at young kids (or gambling making a game have a higher age rating, I don't remember which).I like how all this is considered "kid friendly" but gambling with fictional currency is where the line is drawn in an industry that's invested with mircotransactions and gacha with actual money.
On the flipside, Kirby is sort of wanked offsite. I'm not actually talking tiering, more so the very stupid "He beats everyone" crap that is also kinda attached to SupermanPokemon is the most downplayed verse offsite ngl.
At the very least, even if you downplay Manga/Anime Yugioh to Street level, Card lore Yugioh is unquestionably pretty high into tiering like with World Legacy and Duel TerminalI swear every single time I unironically see someone try to say yugioh characters cap at tier 10, I get closer to losing it, like MF are you just going to ignore that the cards are REAL and everything to do with DM and GX and 5Ds and ZeXaL in favor of "um ackshually, they just use cards, so they are human level."
I can at least understand Kirby because of the inhale BFR+Transmutation plus the mountain of other haxes he has.On the flipside, Kirby is sort of wanked offsite. I'm not actually talking tiering, more so the very stupid "He beats everyone" crap that is also kinda attached to Superman
At the very least, even if you downplay Manga/Anime Yugioh to Street level, Card lore Yugioh is unquestionably pretty high into tiering like with World Legacy and Duel Terminal
Tbh, some Pokedex statements can be rather contradictive, like for instance, it's stated that Garchomp could fly but yet in the games it can't even learn the HM FlyPokemon is the most downplayed verse offsite ngl. People fully ignore the pokedex feats (funnily enough some of the best feats come from actual anime or game feats) and claim they're written by 10 y/o trainers (spoiler alert, we just help with the research, the actual info is written by professors and we either help complete it or unlock it).
When you bring up actual visual feats they'll do their best to downplay them with some bs.
Sometimes it feels like it's specifically Pokemon that gets the brunt of that kind of downplay. "POKEDEXES MAKE NO SENSE, NO WAY POKEMON ARE MACH SPEED!! " mf Leon's Charizard breaks the sound barrier casually and that's with passengers on its back. People will ignore everything just so they can fit something into their personal idea of that thing.
tangentially related, but would anime portrayals be reliable lolTbh, some Pokedex statements can be rather contradictive, like for instance, it's stated that Garchomp could fly but yet in the games it can't even learn the HM Fly
tangentially related, but would anime portrayals be reliable lol
Not saying Kirby is weak by the way, i just roll my eyes whenever this sort of thing gets brought up like in that RelaxAlax Smash power videoI can at least understand Kirby because of the inhale BFR+Transmutation plus the mountain of other haxes he has.
Superman is just dumb. He's very strong, obviously, but people who wank him just act like he's this invincible god for no reason
Pokémon like Beedrill and Scyther can’t learn the move either tbfTbh, some Pokedex statements can be rather contradictive, like for instance, it's stated that Garchomp could fly but yet in the games it can't even learn the HM Fly
Sadly, that's just how the cookie crumbles around here, as the reason could stem around these reasons: You either requested them to evaluate a CRT that would most likely seem impossible for some of them to verify due to their lack of knowledge, or rather that they're not interested in the kind of verse that you request to evaluate most likely due to it's controversy or their own personal feelings.I kinda hate when u ask a staff to evaluate a CRT, but they ignore you and instead evaluate someone's CRT that was requested to him after mine
Ye, which is why its hard to get input for small verses except if u ask Dark or BambuSadly, that's just how the cookie crumbles around here, as the reason could stem around these reasons: You either requested them to evaluate a CRT that would most likely seem impossible to for some of them to verify due to their lack of knowledge, or rather that they're not interested in the kind of verse that you request to evaluate most likely due to it's controversy or their own personal feelings.