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I wasn't voting just yet then... buuuttttt considering that even the normal Invis Watch and C&D are fairly audible and this is a completely empty 2Fort, I guess you could keep the vote up for Koichi.
 
Gun blitz. I think. WTF is even is Koichi's speed rating? If it's unknown his everything gets equalized to Spy's SuperHuman
he has a speed listed tho
at least for reactions, movement speed is peak human
 
he has a speed listed tho
at least for reactions, movement speed is peak human
You know what I was on about Chariot lol

This is why I don't much like to use JoJo characters, their speed ratings are never their physical speed except with notable exceptions, IE Dio and Joseph. But Joseph is hamon so he doesn't count
 
Not sure if extrasensory perception in jojo can let you see invisibility involving cloaking devices

yes it lets you see invisible things like ghosts and stands

but what about invisibility like in spies case
 
Like Koichi’s just a regular dude barring his invisible ghost powers
koichi has the most 9-B dura feats out of any character in jojo that isnt blatantly superhuman on purpose like DIO or Gyro, just arent listed atm because to busy to calc them, but he's been smashed through furniture, launched into steel doors bending them, and even had his own held back attack reflected back at him that crater the ground around him
You know what I was on about Chariot lol

This is why I don't much like to use JoJo characters, their speed ratings are never their physical speed except with notable exceptions, IE Dio and Joseph. But Joseph is hamon so he doesn't count
Working on that, Part 3 mf's almost done (decent bit of movement feats actually, there's like 3 superhuman ones for dudes like pol, oldseph and kak), just finished the Cream arc so almost at the end fixing them.
im not fixing koichi for a long while though, he's toward bottom of priority
 
Spy gets Class 5 LS through wack-ass, unjustifiable powerscaling to Heavy, while 3 Freeze is apparently 40-50 kg at best.
3 Freeze is actually kind of insane, it's 50kgish when reflected to Kira (and the effects of which reflect that in his case), because that's the equivalent amount of weight SHA felt comparatively.
But for SHA itself, it was so heavy it cratered the road beneath it in a puff of smoke (Class K), or against Black Sabbath who's superhuman, it cratered the sidewalk and threatened to crush GE's legs (Class M) ,it could even stop a moving car, causing it to sink it the road and be unable to move (Class M).
something tells me his profile doesnt convey that shit at all and just takes kira's line out of context as if it wasnt even obvious at just a glance that isnt how it works
something tells me koichi is in need of a glowup, might do him after yukako ig given he scales to her and she has some feats i wanted to calc
 
Working on that, Part 3 mf's almost done (decent bit of movement feats actually, there's like 3 superhuman ones for dudes like pol, oldseph and kak), just finished the Cream arc so almost at the end fixing them.
im not fixing koichi for a long while though, he's toward bottom of priority
I thought so(Seeing as Part 3 is the only one I watched-), so should be fun to see them actually get good profiles
3 Freeze is actually kind of insane, it's 50kgish when reflected to Kira (and the effects of which reflect that in his case), because that's the equivalent amount of weight SHA felt comparatively.
But for SHA itself, it was so heavy it cratered the road beneath it in a puff of smoke (Class K), or against Black Sabbath who's superhuman, it cratered the sidewalk and threatened to crush GE's legs (Class M) ,it could even stop a moving car, causing it to sink it the road and be unable to move (Class M).
something tells me his profile doesnt convey that shit at all and just takes kira's line out of context as if it wasnt even obvious at just a glance that isnt how it works
something tells me koichi is in need of a glowup, might do him after yukako ig given he scales to her and she has some feats i wanted to calc
"Lifting Strength: Likely Peak Human, Unknown with Echoes Act 1, 2 and 3."

yeah. I think your right that it needs a glowup lol
 
koichi has the most 9-B dura feats out of any character in jojo that isnt blatantly superhuman on purpose like DIO or Gyro, just arent listed atm because to busy to calc them, but he's been smashed through furniture, launched into steel doors bending them, and even had his own held back attack reflected back at him that crater the ground around him
Alright fair enough, my bad
 
@Chariot190 could koichi see someone invisible through technological means like spy and his invisible watch?
probably not
"Lifting Strength: Likely Peak Human, Unknown with Echoes Act 1, 2 and 3."
What I meant by the Classes, is how much force the gravitational effect that 3 Freeze applied was (some of the calcs even accepted already and implemented elsewhere), aka how strong you'd have to be to even budge. His actual Stand dont got shit for LS feats though, and tbh I'd just list him off as an average human given he dont got shit either.
 
wait guys spy cannot attack while cloaked is this a game mechanic or no?

if it’s a game mechanic then he could just kill koichi without koichi even seeing/noticing him.

if it’s not then uncloaking is a problem as it would leave a bit of sound though I still think spy can shoot koichi and win most of the time
 
And even if for some reason Koichi just stands there(doesn't use Freeze or Act 2 soilund effects) and lets spy go invisible behind him, what stops echoes from just blocking 😪🥱
 
K, how does that stop echoes from just blocking?he can't disguise the knife that he is gonna stab the kid with it.
 
Koichi not expecting it. Which is Spy's whole ****** gimmick.

The only time Spy has ever gone 1v1 straight up with someone is when he knows them and knows he can beat them easily(Both BLU Engi and Medic), otherwise he just backstabs them, and since he doesn't know Koichi...
 
Koichi not expecting it. Which is Spy's whole ****** gimmick.

The only time Spy has ever gone 1v1 straight up with someone is when he knows them and knows he can beat them easily(Both BLU Engi and Medic), otherwise he just backstabs them, and since he doesn't know Koichi...
They start 5m apart though. if anything, I'd be more concerned with spy not expecting the imperceptible ghost that's going to increase gravity by like 5000x on him.
 
Oh, 5 meters? Yeah Koichi stomps LMFAO, Spy may be quick on the draw but he ain't THAT quick

I was operating under the assumption of a city with SBA range
 
Speed: At most Relativistic+ reactions (Could follow, albeit barely, RHCP moving through the wires, could warn Josuke of RHCP's approach despite it moving at light speed), Average Human with Echoes Act 1 (Tamami Kobayashi dodged an attack of it), at least Subsonic, possibly Relativistic+ with Echoes Act 2 (Could move like a blur from Koichi's point of view), Relativistic+ with Echoes Act 3 (Far faster than before, could effectively blitz Koichi, though is demonstrably slower than Killer Queen, though he did manage to react to his stomp)

And what you all meant with Koich beingh unknow speed in his profile in the start of the threat?

(Still reading the rest)
 
Okay, Chariot had alread awnsered everything lol


Don't stands can just be insta summon around the User? Wouldn't this make traveling speed of the stands kinda irrelevant?
How fast can Koichi run? How fast can he throw a punch or dash?

If, by looking at the profile, you can't answer that, you see my problem.
 
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