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https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Kryten

I simply wish to check the reason why because I want to scale the verse, and I don't want to begin if for some reason the verse isn't allowed.
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EL_xWatcher1234x Elizhaa EL_xWatcher1234x wrote on Elizhaa's profile.
Hi El

About Arifurera: We got a confirmation that souls are governed by their own principle(Soul Magic) and other AM are ineffective on them
Yes, it was the essence of regeneration magic――time interference. Using this she could try to rewind time until just after the soul was absorbed and in the verge of getting melted in.

However, the greatest obstacle was standing right exactly there.

Even if regeneration magic was used to dead person, only the flesh body would be restored and the soul wouldn’t return. Similarly regeneration magic generally couldn’t interfere with soul. The cause why the concept of time didn’t work on soul couldn’t be elucidated but, in any case, the two magic were categorized as different principles was because of that.

Then, what to do?

(Just using magic in combination is not enough. ……Endow magic to magic. Use multiple magic as a single magic. What’s more those multiple magic are all age of god magic.)

Which meant, “fusion magic”.

For example, the “resurrection magic”. From a glance it looked like a single magic, but it was actually multiple magic used separately, consisting of regeneration magic to restore the body to normal, and soul magic to solidify and attach back the dispersed soul.

Yue’s favorite “lightning dragon” was also the same. It was composite magic that simply combine gravity magic to a part of lightning element magic.

Of course, composite magic was a super magic skill that needed “using multiple magic simultaneously”. Normally multiple magicians would work together to cast it.

The special move that was further above that was “fusion of magic” which was nothing else than the height of magic.

In short, she was trying to make it possible for time interference to effect soul by fusing the two magic so regeneration magic could have the ability to interfere with soul, remaking them into a single magic.

It went without saying, even after going that far it would only allow her “sort out the souls”.

At that rate, the risk was too high even if by chance she could forcefully separate the souls using soul magic. As example, it was like scooping milk that had just gotten poured into coffee. Some of the coffee might also get scooped up too.

A part of the adjoined souls might stay mixed even after the separation, one soul would have other person’s soul mixed in, while the other soul would return to the body with some parts partially missing……such incident might occur.

Therefore, in order to accurately “separate” the souls, she further needed to fuse the essence of space magic――boundary interference and the essence of sublimation magic――information interference.

It was self-evident but, energy inside each individual (like magic power’s light and so on) all had different color. None was exactly the same. Even if they looked the same color because of the limit of human’s discernment ability, if the color was showed in numerical value there would definitely be different in the decimal point.

The information interference was for perfectly recognizing that. And then, using that information as the base, the boundary interference would be used to clearly put a boundary line between the adjoined souls.

In other words the complete salvation magic was a magic that could only become feasible for the first time when she could fuse four essences of age of god magic and handle them as a single magic.

(I really don’t get it at all.)

The one who thought up the magic skill of fusing magic and made it into reality after training was none other than that person. The world’s strongest magician, Yue.

Originally it was something impossible――she got the idea from seeing Shia (originally it was Director Dime though) learning the incomprehensible special move of obtaining explosive ability sublimation by fusing different energies from different worlds.

If different types of energy could be fused, then perhaps magic governing different principle could also be fused? Was her idea. Ch 570
It's that even after reaching the true essence of AM, it's still impossible for other AM to interfer with the soul without Soul Magic cause they follow their own principle. That is acausality type 4


Similar thing was done in Zero, but ultimatley failed
According to Laus, Dylan and the others’ souls had been fused with the souls of ancient warriors. It was possible to split them apart again, and doing so would return the kids to normal. But this would be the most difficult application of spirit magic Laus would have ever attempted. It would be like trying to separate milk tea into milk and tea. He would have to take his time and proceed with caution.

“How long are we talking here?”

“At least a month per person.”

There was no way he’d be able to finish before Miledi ordered the attack on the church. Oscar had been hoping to heal his younger siblings in case the worst happened to them, but it seemed that wouldn’t be possible.

“Even with my help?” Lyutillis asked. Her evolution magic was part of the reason why she’d tagged along.

“That estimate is assuming you’re helping.”

In this world, there was nothing more complex and delicate than a person’s soul.

“There’s one other problem. I’d have to keep treating them indefinitely.”

“Lau-chan, by indefinitely...do you mean even after you heal them?”

“Yes, even after I manage to separate the souls, it’ll be dangerous to try extracting the implanted one. The fusion is too complete. If I don’t regularly come back to treat them, their souls will start to mix again.”

In other words, they’d need Laus’s treatment for the rest of their lives. Some people looked despondent, while others seemed glad treatment was possible at all. ZVol 5 p360
Souls are the most complex thing, untouched by the concepts of Time, Space, Gravity... instead following their own principle(Concept of Soul).


Conclusion:
Souls are resistant to AM hax and any form of Law/CM2 that doesn't govern souls. What do you think ?

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