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I didn't see the previous pics you sent so no. Momo, Kin, and Fish dude should get it likely. I disagree with others getting it based off these 3 though.
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Naruto's oxygen is a lie
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Nah Kaguya is otsutsuki hers is as definite as momo's , possibly for hags and hamura too, Also just remembered there is another evidence of self sustenance for otsutsuki when Momo and Kinshiki are shown on an unidentified world which dosent seem to have oxygen or life.
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Momo, Urashiki, and Kinshiki would have Self Sustain so Kaguya should probably still get it too as she is also a pure Otsutsuki that traveled to Earth with them. KCM Naruto could have it due to Naruto Retsuden but not Base Naruto.
No one else should have it based on what we know. Especially not using The Last since it's clear with the novelization that there is oxygen on the Moon.
No one else should have it based on what we know. Especially not using The Last since it's clear with the novelization that there is oxygen on the Moon.
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Trihexa102
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Yea this is what I am talking about.
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Isshiki
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you right
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That dude ain't even canon, this whole scene isn't even canon to the manga source material.Depends on how people interpret these scenes, since the profiles are currently are mix of the anime ang manga, and Kinshiki's Self-Sustenance comes from them
There's no point in using it when the Boruto manga is entirely different from the Boruto anime.
All their dimensional travels are shown through portals, no reason to believe they're capable of breathing in space until we actually see it.
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Agreed with op's argument. Even if there's a part where the kyuubi's chakra was supplying Naruto with oxygen, that doesn't meet the requirement for self-sustenance as the wiki describes it.
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Would Boruto and Kawaki get it as well? They are considered full fledged Otsutsuki
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I mean they don't have any feats like the pure otsutsuki do so that might need to be argued in a separate CRT. I'm not sure tbh
it's not even that the novel states the Kyuubi's chakra was supplying him with oxygen. he's just able to survive in space in KCM for some reason.
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Have you never followed a Boruto thread? Boruto anime is canon and we use anime talents in profiles Yes, the scene is canon.
Their dimensional travel is done through portals, but not their travel from one planet to another, it's an interdimensional portal, they can't just go to another planet in the same dimension, that's exactly why that Sasuke had to fly to Redaku's country in the novel, and that's also why he just didn't use the portal to the meteor to get the stellar particles in the novel.
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Self sustenance should continue for Naruto with Kurama's chakra. In novel retsuden he clearly loses consciousness and oxygen at over 200km, and after regaining Kurama's power he regains consciousness and flies back to the surface. This supports the scene with Toneri, he seeks Toneri already high above the surface of the moon, there may even be oxygen on the moon surface, but not so high above the surface.
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If it's that ambiguous, then perhaps a "possibly" for self-sustenance would be good.
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I agree with removing that.
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I agree
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No it's not.
Disagree
Disagree there was life on that world before they killed it all with god trees.
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The last novel or Naruto retsuden? Naruto retsuden doesn't state it iirc.
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They not over 200km they are at 200km. Also the novel supports there being air on the moon as shown in a earlier post.
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VSBW considers both anime and manga canon at the same time. No clue about how it works with the movies though. Here is the first introduction of Momo and Kinshiki in the manga.
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They can travel on the same planet with portals look at sasuke travling to the god tree with the portal.
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Disagree with Kaguya since she didn't travel with them. She was with Isshiki.
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bro you do know a barren world barely has any oxygen.
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Nah she and isshiki are otsutsuki like Momo , you are not making sense saying she dosent have it , these are basic otsutsuki abilities.
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Exactly. Saying that aliens who are constantly traveling planet to planet through space without ships or stuff like that don't have the ability to survive in space despite being shown right above the earth is crazy to me
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Momo and Co are different since even Toneri is listed under otsutsuki but he has no showings of breathing in space. I'm more inclinde with the proof at hand to only list Momo and Co with it while Toneri, Kaguya, others don't get it.
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The Boruto movie isn't canon anymore due to the manga and anime both retconning the events.
But this site needs an IQ check if it still takes both the Boruto anime and manga as dual canon when the manga literally hasn't mentioned the Jogan nor Urashiki once. Urashiki going from Jiraiya to Sasuke tier should be proof enough he's just anime filler.
Anyways, we haven't actually seen Momoshiki nor Kinshiki in space nor space traveling. From what we know they travel through dimensions.
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We definitely don't take the anime and the manga to be canon simultaneously.
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Bruh this whole time I thought we did.
Lol. Feels bad for Boruto movie getting twice retconned.
I thought we did this whole time.
I revert back to my OP then and agree with removing it for all.
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I assume mean Manga and Anime are clearly different. In anime version, the new Team 7 slammed Deepa to the ground and then get killed by Amado when Jigen order him. Because Deepa do not exist in Manga version
Sorry to have bothered you. And I'm going to watch some horror movie.
Ikemoto Mikio (Manga) "The storylines between the manga and anime are completely different from one another... You've probably been thinking that. But from now onwards, the anime will be steadily getting closer and closer to the contents of the manga. And thereafter, everyone from Kara and Kawaki will also be making an appearance Since they'll be talking on and on with their cool voices, please look forward to it and enjoy!"
Kodachi Ukyou (Script) "The anime version of Boruto and his comrades will be going even further and further beyond the plot points of the movie! Finally, we'll be delving in the 'Mujina Bandits Arc'. I'm filled with deep emotions for being able to expand upon this idea I've been preparing it ever since the timeframe of the original series! So please enjoy yourselves and look forward to it!"
Sorry to have bothered you. And I'm going to watch some horror movie.
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Even if we don’t accept the Boruto Movie Isn’t the anime used to fill up(especially the cannon arcs) Minor details that can’t be shown in the manga . let’s not forget Boruto is a Monthly manga , not weekly like the others , so to say we should disregard almost every extra scene used to give more information regarding it is fallacious. They were shown traveling through dimension to get to Kaguya’s dimension or When they captured Naruto and took him to Momoshiki’s planet in a different dimension, But the very first time we say them in the Novel and anime was when they Drained an entire world dry and Made it Barren ( Meaning almost no oxygen would be traceable on that planet after ,all life was drained from it) which clearly supports Self sustenance, and should be extended to fellow otsutsuki members .
They would still get self sustenance , like I said Momoshiki and Kinshiki survived on a barren planet where the radiation and aurora washed over the desolate planet , They travelled using portals only when they accessed kaguya’s dimension and when they captured Naruto , and took him to Momoshiki dimension , They barren world that was drained and destroyed as we know was still in same dimension of the Naruto verse , just a different region of space , which we know they didn’t use portals or any of such .( also sorry if it’s a bit scattered , on mobile right now)
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Naruto literally cannot use Chakra properly at that timeframe
yet when he can, he instantly can breathe in Space
Disagree with this CRT
yet when he can, he instantly can breathe in Space
Disagree with this CRT
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What are you talking about? sasuke travel to another dimension, he never traveled between planets of the same dimension and never even traveled to other places on the same planet, he always travels between dimensions, this was clear in the Urashiki arc.
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Naruto stayed alive 200KM above sea level, The division between outer space and the Earth's atmosphere is 100 km above sea level. So Naruto was 100km above the Earth's atmosphere, he lost consciousness, but after recovering Kurama's power, he stayed alive, regained consciousness and flew to the ground. He was at the same level or above than the ootsutsuki trio.
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Your mistake is thinking anyone would willingly watch the Urashiki arc.
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Can I get some statements about the planet? Cause this is what happens when you plant a god tree.
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If its sucking all life from the planet wouldn't that mean things like trees and plants cant produce oxygen through photosynthesis
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Guess not since in both scans it shows the tree grown with trees and clouds in the first one and clouds in the second one.
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It dosent suck just chakra , also natural energy, genetic code and information of every thing that lived and died on the planet, it drains the planet completely till its barren(meaning lifeless , no water , chakra, natural energy or form of life and it becomes desolate) , read chapter 55 Isshiki explains it as " THE CRYSTALLIZATION OF A PLANETS LIFE " it would contain all life and record of life being devoured. Until it becomes like the picture of this unidentified planet in a different region of space existing in the naruto dimension.
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you can clearly see that it still an ongoing process in that scan as we can see trees and vegetation , That's an Image of it trying to absorb all of the planets life , Not after it has absorbed all of the planets life.
