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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

P1 Naruto TL (P1 knowledge only). Also some notes:
  • Itachi and Mental Amp Hiruzen are pretty interchangeable. Both are just vaguely above Orochimaru
  • Prime Kimimaro could be much higher, but all we know from P1 alone is that he was a significant help against Rasa and that he would've made the fight against Hiruzen easy, which is enough to put him in Kage tier, but it's unknown to what extent
  • Kabuto might be a LoW Kakashi rival, it's a bit vague as there are statements about him rivalling Kakashi both pre and post training
  • CM1 Kimimaro and 3T Sasuke are interchangeable
  • Depending on how you interpret a couple things, Drunk Lee and Base Kimimaro could be as low as the bottom of Peak Jonin
  • Sotoro Kiba might be below Choji and Neji if you take those statements about them being the strongest, I prefer his feats though
  • Final Valley and Gaara fight Sasuke are taking CM1 into account
  • Final Valley Naruto could be a little higher or lower
  • Neji and Base Gaara are interchangeable
  • Weighted Lee is taking the 1st Gate into account, otherwise he'd be near the top of Genin
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Thoughts?
 
MinatoSparkle said:
P1 Naruto TL (P1 knowledge only). Also some notes:
  • Itachi and Mental Amp Hiruzen are pretty interchangeable. Both are just vaguely above Orochimaru
  • Prime Kimimaro could be much higher, but all we know from P1 alone is that he was a significant help against Rasa and that he would've made the fight against Hiruzen easy, which is enough to put him in Kage tier, but it's unknown to what extent
  • Kabuto might be a LoW Kakashi rival, it's a bit vague as there are statements about him rivalling Kakashi both pre and post training
  • CM1 Kimimaro and 3T Sasuke are interchangeable
  • Depending on how you interpret a couple things, Drunk Lee and Base Kimimaro could be as low as the bottom of Peak Jonin
  • Sotoro Kiba might be below Choji and Neji if you take those statements about them being the strongest, I prefer his feats though
  • Final Valley and Gaara fight Sasuke are taking CM1 into account
  • Final Valley Naruto could be a little higher or lower
  • Neji and Base Gaara are interchangeable
  • Weighted Lee is taking the 1st Gate into account, otherwise he'd be near the top of Genin
main-qimg-e8917aa6f9ed8e75c58013caff039c56

Thoughts?
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I certainly wouldn't consider the Sound 4 Jonin level, so the scaling around that is a bit off, which is my highest contention.
 
I don't know Isshiki's 165 cm and is smol than Hokage Naruto and Era Sasuke's 180-182 cm while his vessel Jigen's 178 cm in terms of height according to google.
 
SlendVeny said:
I certainly wouldn't consider the Sound 4 Jonin level, so the scaling around that is a bit off, which is my highest contention.
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I mean they should at least be Low Jonin level since they're so far above chunin, and are above PT Gaara who Kakashi considered potentially jonin level. It's also not like Genma and Raido are weak even if they are "special" jonin since they're Hokage guards
 
MinatoSparkle said:
I mean they should at least be Low Jonin level since they're so far above chunin, and are above PT Gaara who Kakashi considered potentially jonin level.
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Uh, Kakashi said that pursuing Gaara and his siblings through a warzone was an A-Rank mission, not that fighting PT Gaara alone was A-Rank. Shikamaru gets jumped by like 10 guys at one point.
MinatoSparkle said:
It's also not like Genma and Raido are weak even if they are "special" jonin since they're Hokage guards
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Yes, but they nearly beat them with zero chakra, while injured, with low stamina. And that was 2 to 1 odds.
 
MinatoSparkle said:
P1 Naruto TL (P1 knowledge only). Also some notes:
  • Itachi and Mental Amp Hiruzen are pretty interchangeable. Both are just vaguely above Orochimaru
  • Prime Kimimaro could be much higher, but all we know from P1 alone is that he was a significant help against Rasa and that he would've made the fight against Hiruzen easy, which is enough to put him in Kage tier, but it's unknown to what extent
  • Kabuto might be a LoW Kakashi rival, it's a bit vague as there are statements about him rivalling Kakashi both pre and post training
  • CM1 Kimimaro and 3T Sasuke are interchangeable
  • Depending on how you interpret a couple things, Drunk Lee and Base Kimimaro could be as low as the bottom of Peak Jonin
  • Sotoro Kiba might be below Choji and Neji if you take those statements about them being the strongest, I prefer his feats though
  • Final Valley and Gaara fight Sasuke are taking CM1 into account
  • Final Valley Naruto could be a little higher or lower
  • Neji and Base Gaara are interchangeable
  • Weighted Lee is taking the 1st Gate into account, otherwise he'd be near the top of Genin
main-qimg-e8917aa6f9ed8e75c58013caff039c56

Thoughts?
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how much time was between Sasuke Retrieval and Final Exams
 
While cutting mangos for myself, I had a thought what if limbos are higer-dimensonal/ 4D

1. The limbo world is essentialy overlaping the nard universe world. Meaning it houses the nard universe and would be one spatial dimension bigger then the real one

2. This would explain why nobody can preceive the limbo clones even when they are someone like hashirama. Cause limbos are literally one spatial dimension higher then them and that lower dimensional characters cannot comprehend the exsistance of higher dimensional beings

3. This also explains the lack of spatial presence from the limbo clones as the nard universe does not have the required spatial dimension to support its exsistance, hence it cannot be attacked because all physical attack and jutsu are 3D while limbos are 4D

Just a thought pls don't kill me
 
AlternativePrinciple said:
While cutting mangos for myself, I had a thought what if limbos are higer-dimensonal/ 4D

1. The limbo world is essentialy overlaping the nard universe world. Meaning it houses the nard universe and would be one spatial dimension bigger then the real one

2. This would explain why nobody can preceive the limbo clones even when they are someone like hashirama. Cause limbos are literally one spatial dimension higher then them and that lower dimensional characters cannot comprehend the exsistance of higher dimensional beings

3. This also explains the lack of spatial presence from the limbo clones as the nard universe does not have the required spatial dimension to support its exsistance, hence it cannot be attacked because all physical attack and jutsu are 3D while limbos are 4D

Just a thought pls don't kill me
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who put crack in your mangoes?
 
MinatoSparkle said:
P1 Naruto TL (P1 knowledge only). Also some notes:
  • Itachi and Mental Amp Hiruzen are pretty interchangeable. Both are just vaguely above Orochimaru
  • Prime Kimimaro could be much higher, but all we know from P1 alone is that he was a significant help against Rasa and that he would've made the fight against Hiruzen easy, which is enough to put him in Kage tier, but it's unknown to what extent
  • Kabuto might be a LoW Kakashi rival, it's a bit vague as there are statements about him rivalling Kakashi both pre and post training
  • CM1 Kimimaro and 3T Sasuke are interchangeable
  • Depending on how you interpret a couple things, Drunk Lee and Base Kimimaro could be as low as the bottom of Peak Jonin
  • Sotoro Kiba might be below Choji and Neji if you take those statements about them being the strongest, I prefer his feats though
  • Final Valley and Gaara fight Sasuke are taking CM1 into account
  • Final Valley Naruto could be a little higher or lower
  • Neji and Base Gaara are interchangeable
  • Weighted Lee is taking the 1st Gate into account, otherwise he'd be near the top of Genin
main-qimg-e8917aa6f9ed8e75c58013caff039c56

Thoughts?
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Asuma and Kurenai should drop down to “Peak Jonin” and given it takes Sound 4 in CMS2 States to High Diff Tokubetsu Jonin at their weakest (Exhausted and Low on Chakra), everyone in the Jonin Tier needs to drop to “High Chunin”.

The lower tiers would have to be edited accordingly to the changes.
 
MinatoSparkle said:
I mean they should at least be Low Jonin level since they're so far above chunin, and are above PT Gaara who Kakashi considered potentially jonin level. It's also not like Genma and Raido are weak even if they are "special" jonin since they're Hokage guards
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Hokage Guards or not, they are not “Jonin” Proper, and even though we don’t use Databook stats, it’s clear Kishi doesn’t see them on the Jonin level, such as Kakashi or Guy or Asuma/Kurenai (And note, that’s fresh). Fact is, they are weaker.
 
hello good evening, I'm here to ask for your opinion, if Kotoamatsukami Shisui is able to manipulate Edo tense creatures that are immune to mind manipulation, can he get an immune Nullfication rating / immune bypass?
 
imagine Ike gives us a 3-A feat in a draft/leak of an upcoming chapter but scraps it in the final "canon" version of the chapter
 
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