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Izuku Midoriya (Deku) Vs Steven Universe (MHA Vs Steven Universe) [10-0-0]

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Izuku Midoriya Vs Steven Universe

Final War Arc 100% Deku will be used
Attack Potency: 2.54 Exatons, 12.71 Exatons with Fa Jin
Durability: 2.54 Exatons
Lifting Strength: Class P

Pink State Future Steven will be used

Attack Potency: 2.46 Exatons
Durability: 2.46 Exatons, Higher with Forcefields
Lifting Strength: Class G

Steven is in his angry emotional state
Likely Moon+ Restricted
Steven gains access to Rose’s Sword, Cheeseburger Backpack, Hot Dog Duffel Bag, Watermelon Steven (don’t even know why he has these)
Speed equalized


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Fight OST:


One For All Hero: @Bruhtelho @GodEarh206 @Anonymous_Learner @MintyBoi1 @Johner2133451 @XSOULOFCINDERX @CastoriceTheFifth @Maverick_Zero_X @Arkansalter2 @Mapl3Sy4up
Crystal Gem:
 
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I’m just going to point out that at no point in the fight would Steven ever use the diamond warship mech in a fight or to fly to a different galaxy. Don’t know why that is considered a standard equipment and not his sword.
 
I don't think you have to state Moon + is restricted since its a whole different tier entirely but anyway

their AP is nearly identical being 2.54 Exatons of TNT VS 2.467 Exatons but Deku can increase this to 12.71 Exatons of TNT instantly and he will be doing that as soon as the fight begins giving Deku a (give or take) 5x AP advantage and could leave a massive hole in Shigaraki or even possibly annihilate his body with a single attack meaning Deku will be absolutely overwhelming Steven with his skill and ap, don't even get me STARTED on the fact that Deku will just amp his speed as well to blitz steven before he could even react to set up bubbles and ik apparently Steven has his own speed amp but Dekus is far more substantial as he blitzed a 62.27% SoL character before he could react compared to Steven blitzing a 33% c Character so regardless Deku will be the quicker one if it came down to amp.

now lets say for fun that Steven's bubble and shield are actually 303 Exatons. This doesn't really change much since Steven in Future has an offensive combat style to contrast his normally defensive style meaning he'll still likely try to hit Deku back and the moment that happens, he gets dodged, binded, blitzed, skill diffed, etc.

Deku takes it fairly easily, ngl even gonna consider it a stomp since Steven doesn't have any options to put Deku down
 
I don't think you have to state Moon + is restricted since its a whole different tier entirely but anyway

their AP is nearly identical being 2.54 Exatons of TNT VS 2.467 Exatons but Deku can increase this to 12.71 Exatons of TNT instantly and he will be doing that as soon as the fight begins giving Deku a (give or take) 5x AP advantage and could leave a massive hole in Shigaraki or even possibly annihilate his body with a single attack meaning Deku will be absolutely overwhelming Steven with his skill and ap, don't even get me STARTED on the fact that Deku will just amp his speed as well to blitz steven before he could even react to set up bubbles and ik apparently Steven has his own speed amp but Dekus is far more substantial as he blitzed a 62.27% SoL character before he could react compared to Steven blitzing a 33% c Character so regardless Deku will be the quicker one if it came down to amp.

now lets say for fun that Steven's bubble and shield are actually 303 Exatons. This doesn't really change much since Steven in Future has an offensive combat style to contrast his normally defensive style meaning he'll still likely try to hit Deku back and the moment that happens, he gets dodged, binded, blitzed, skill diffed, etc.

Deku takes it fairly easily, ngl even gonna consider it a stomp since Steven doesn't have any options to put Deku down
Speed is equalized. Both of their blitz amps have perception blitzed characters on the same speed tier as them so the gearshift amp gets offset by his super speed state amp.

His forcefield bubbles and shields are far higher than his normal durability. He can also multi layer his shield to weaken the impact of Deku’s attacks. His shields are still part of his combat styles since he just spams them with spikes.
 
those shields are getting destroyed easily
That’s like 7 white diamond attacks being casually tanked. Albeit, pink state is comparable but overall weaker than pink Steven so it’s not going to casually block Fa Jin 5x like that but still be able to defend against it.
 
Speed is equalized. Both of their blitz amps have perception blitzed characters on the same speed tier as them so the gearshift amp gets offset by his super speed state amp.
being the same tier doesn't make the fact Deku blitzed a character faster than Steven irrelevant, as I said the amp they gain from it as shown for Deku is far more substantial.
His forcefield bubbles and shields are far higher than his normal durability. He can also multi layer his shield to weaken the impact of Deku’s attacks. His shields are still part of his combat styles since he just spams them with spikes.
ik they're higher than his AP but Dekus ap far exceeds them as in Gearshift it was fully capable of annihilating Shigaraki so he should be able to shatter them if absolutely necessary (if they don't scale to the 303 Exatons) and we've seen in Pink State he is unstable and can be pressured easily, he opted for rushing Jasper down rather than his usual tactic of shielding so the moment he tries to rush Deku or opt for something beyond shielding, he gets danger sensed and anal predicted to hell and back.
 
being the same tier doesn't make the fact Deku blitzed a character faster than Steven irrelevant, as I said the amp they gain from it as shown for Deku is far more substantial.

ik they're higher than his AP but Dekus ap far exceeds them as in Gearshift it was fully capable of annihilating Shigaraki so he should be able to shatter them if absolutely necessary (if they don't scale to the 303 Exatons) and we've seen in Pink State he is unstable and can be pressured easily, he opted for rushing Jasper down rather than his usual tactic of shielding so the moment he tries to rush Deku or opt for something beyond shielding, he gets danger sensed and anal predicted to hell and back.
There’s no way to say that gear shift’s amp or super speed amp are more substantial than each other when both of them don’t have a stated multiplier in the first place. The fairest assumption is that gear shift and super speed cancels each other out as they are both shown to perception blitz characters on the same speed tier as them.

I know Deku’s ap is stronger than 12.71 exatons, the thing is that the shields will still be able to block that value decently since he’s still comparable to pink Steven (albeit overall weaker so it’ll be a struggle). The shields will weaken the force of Deku’s one shot attack and even more if he multi layers his shield (which he can). Also in the same jasper fight he also opted into spamming the shields and killed her with a massive spike shield wall.

He can also just heal himself with his spit if he manages to weaken Deku’s one shot. His spit was potent enough to resurrect someone that has recently died.
 
There’s no way to say that gear shift’s amp or super speed amp are more substantial than each other when both of them don’t have a stated multiplier in the first place. The fairest assumption is that gear shift and super speed cancels each other out as they are both shown to perception blitz characters on the same speed tier as them.
just by what we are shown, Deku would be the faster one esp by the wiki standards

"much higher with Gearshift (His Second Gear blitzed Shigaraki to the point he couldn't perceive what happened) Shigaraki already upscaled above 62.27% SoL and Deku was able to blitz him before he knew what was going on.

"At least Relativistic, likely higher in Pink State (Was so unbelievably fast that Garnet and the other Crystal Gems could not perceive or react to him, and they even appeared in slow-motion to him) this would put Steven massively above 33% C.

the MHA scaling chain is far more substantial as Deku blitzed someone who already upscaled above 62.27% SoL compared to Steven with his speed who had the gems appear in slow-motion and not perceive him, putting him massively above 33% C. The numbers don't lie and Dekus feat is greater than Stevens.
I know Deku’s ap is stronger than 12.71 exatons, the thing is that the shields will still be able to block that value decently since he’s still comparable to pink Steven (albeit overall weaker so it’ll be a struggle). The shields will weaken the force of Deku’s one shot attack and even more if he multi layers his shield (which he can). Also in the same jasper fight he also opted into spamming the shields and killed her with a massive spike shield wall.
His shield and bubble would for sometime but hes still the weaker, slower, and less skilled fighter here putting Steven at a pretty bad disadvantage

Steven has to get past Deku just dancing around him thanks to Analytical Prediction and Danger Sense before even hoping of spamming his shield and massive walls, restraining Deku with it like he did Jasper wouldn't work as Deku LS and AP are far greater meaning he could shatter them and move away in time (if he even caught him to begin with), not even including the fact the Dekus range is FAR greater than Steven's (Hundreds of Kilometers which is exclusive to his bubble and something he doesn't do often VS Thousands of Kilometers which is something Deku can use and was shown to be just a byproduct of a weakened and exhausted Deku)

Smokescreen will completely cut Steven's vision off from seeing Deku meaning he has a pretty damn good opportunity to sneak attack Steven before he can put up his shield or bubble tho he could likely use his "screams" to disperse the smoke

Blackwhip will be as useful as ever as it gives Deku ways to bind or defend against Steven if need be esp given Deku is Class T vs Steven's Class G

We already know about Fa Jin and Gearshift and Float doesn't matter much given Steven has his own Flight he can use.

Deku's intelligence as well means he'll quickly catch on to how Steven fights and use that against him as the more skilled combatant.
He can also just heal himself with his spit if he manages to weaken Deku’s one shot. His spit was potent enough to resurrect someone that has recently died.
Steven has never shown iirc to do this in a combat scenario so it'd be out of character but something he could do ig.

I really don't see much for Steven here, Deku just has all the tools in his kit to pull this off so its pretty obvious i'm voting him.
 
Its speed equalized. The upscaling doesn’t matter. It’s Shigaraki = Deku. Crystal Gems = Steven. They both blitzed their same value speeds. This is allowed still since Steven isn’t blitzing Deku. He just offsets gearshift’s amp. He’s not gonna blitz Steven with gear shift and Steven isn’t going to blitz Deku with super speed state.

He can’t restrain Deku yes but he will still struggle really hard to destroy the giant spike shield spam. In this case, he can’t afford to spam fa Jin. He has to keep charging it up to even get past the shield. Even then, the shield will absorb most of the damage from his one shot and even more when multi layered. This is basically like how in MHA Hawks only survived Prime Rewind AFO’s multi continental attack with town level durability because Dark Shadow absorbed like 90% of the damage.

Yeah his roar would probably disperse it (or he would just jump high up into the air)

There’s also the case where blackwhip would just hit his shield so restraining him would still be pretty annoying and hard to do since he can spam it.

The thousands of kilometers range doesn’t matter since the fight at max is only like 4 kilometers.

Why would it be out of character for Steven to heal himself if he’s heavily injured? This would be arguing that Steven is so dumb with the iq of negative 2 that he wouldn’t heal himself. Its not even outrageous statement to just apply spit on his injury to heal himself.

It’s actually dangerous for this fight to drag out for Deku since the down sides of Gear Shift will be astronomical to him after 20 minutes of usage (even though injuries starts after 5 minutes) and will continue to injure himself even more with Overlay leaving for more openings. Vote counted.
 
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being the same tier doesn't make the fact Deku blitzed a character faster than Steven irrelevant, as I said the amp they gain from it as shown for Deku is far more substantial.
Equalized speed. The level of amps also get downgraded at equal rate.
 
So it basically comes down to if Deku can win fast enough with Gearshift since Steven can go for way longer with much less risk. Like said, I think their speed amps should cancel out with equalization. Steven has some big advantages with his Diamond Shields and his healing which I think should be mentioned was shown to be automatic for serious things like bone fractures. I don’t think they ever stated how fast, but considering Steven never noticed his whole life how much damage he was taking, I think it’ll come into play against Izuku who just has to keep rushing in and trying to beat Steven down within 5 minutes. Or else he’ll just lose oxygen and be wide open to be crushed. I’m thinking with Steven’s skill and healing, he might just outlast.
 
This is the super speed state I’m talking about btw

  • Super Speed: Steven gains the ability to enter a state of super speed in this state, causing him to leave pink afterimages behind him when he moves and allowing him to move so fast that everything in the world around him becomes nearly frozen, including things as fast as Gems.
 
So it basically comes down to if Deku can win fast enough with Gearshift since Steven can go for way longer with much less risk. Like said, I think their speed amps should cancel out with equalization. Steven has some big advantages with his Diamond Shields and his healing which I think should be mentioned was shown to be automatic for serious things like bone fractures. I don’t think they ever stated how fast, but considering Steven never noticed his whole life how much damage he was taking, I think it’ll come into play against Izuku who just has to keep rushing in and trying to beat Steven down within 5 minutes. Or else he’ll just lose oxygen and be wide open to be crushed. I’m thinking with Steven’s skill and healing, he might just outlast.
Deku can continue fighting for 20 minutes straight while relying on gear shift. It’s just that the 5 minute mark is the start of him injuring himself with it. Over 20 minutes is where he switches to overlay because of how bad the blowback is. Overlay is a blitz amp and is as fast as gear shift. That being said, the thing that happened when he reached 5 minutes I don’t think would happen here since that was his first time using it. However he would still be constantly getting injured during the 20 minutes before switching to overlay.
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I think deku got it. He's got the speed for it with his speed amps, able to increase his ap, has danger sense to dodge attacks, range with air or black whip, able to make a smokescreen that would actually help him for once since Steven can't sense energy or anything so he could surprise him, and has amazing battle and analitical prediction.
Steven's best option would be him putting a bubble around deku and BFR him away and I doubt deku's just gonna let him do that due to being way faster in gearshift, would be able to sense his intent with danger sense, deku should be able to break our of his shields, and Steven's never done that in character before mid-fight
 
I think deku got it. He's got the speed for it with his speed amps, able to increase his ap, has danger sense to dodge attacks, range with air or black whip, able to make a smokescreen that would actually help him for once since Steven can't sense energy or anything so he could surprise him, and has amazing battle and analitical prediction.
Steven's best option would be him putting a bubble around deku and BFR him away and I doubt deku's just gonna let him do that due to being way faster in gearshift, would be able to sense his intent with danger sense, deku should be able to break our of his shields, and Steven's never done that in character before mid-fight
A few things, his shields would be able to block fa Jin x5 somewhat well (still difficult) and would weaken the force of his one shot. Steven could put him in a bubble but his greater win con is with how dumb his shields are and Deku injuring himself the longer he uses gear shift (especially at the 20 minute mark). Speed is also equalized so when Deku uses gear shift and Steven uses super speed their blitz amps are canceled out. Deku can break out of the shields but he’ll be a struggle if he only uses fa Jin 5x. His shield is still comparable to this but overall weaker. Btw I wouldn’t count out Steven doing this either if he got the chance. Hell, he killed and shattered Jasper in this state without thinking.
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I’ll vote Deku for Overlay
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This fight might actually be the first one where it gets dragged out to Deku being forced to use overlay instead of winning in the 20 minute gearshift barrage
 
Anyways, hopefully I can talk about the fight in like 2 or so hours before Grace happens and it’s joever
 
Not a vote but leaning towards deku. How skilled is Steven? Has he dealt with someone who has this level of mobility and what seems like a overwhelming tactical advantage that will quickly form cause of ana prediction and deku being smarter.
 
Not a vote but leaning towards deku. How skilled is Steven? Has he dealt with someone who has this level of mobility and what seems like a overwhelming tactical advantage that will quickly form cause of ana prediction and deku being smarter.
Steven isn't a natural fighter throughout most of the show especially due to his pacifism, he did stomp Jasper who has years of experience and her showings in battle are very impressive, but her fight with Steven is very one sided as she was barely trying against him and was egging him on, I'm not saying it's to some god-like extent or anything like that esp compared to Deku who's fought a wider range of opponents all of whom are incredibly skilled in what they did from the best sniper in the country (lady nagant) to the greatest villain in the world (All For One).
 
Not a vote but leaning towards deku. How skilled is Steven? Has he dealt with someone who has this level of mobility and what seems like an overwhelming tactical advantage that will quickly form cause of ana prediction and deku being smarter.
Even if it’s not as impressive as Deku, a weaker and less experienced pacifist Steven that was literally just singing the entire time contended with a gifted fighter like Spinel with odd mobility that solo’d the crystal gems with all 3 of them also being gifted fighters.

Basically this fight would be annoying as hell for Deku since his 100% can’t destroy his shields, fa Jin x5 will struggle hard to break the shields, and his one shot will get weakened by his shields. Which would just end with Steven licking his hand and applying the spit on his injury to insta heal it. Deku’s BIQ has to be the greatest weapon he has to countering the shield spam.
 
Love how no one mentioned the equipment Steven has

Steven gains access to Rose’s Sword, Cheeseburger Backpack, Hot Dog Duffel Bag, Watermelon Steven
 
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