Shibai Otsutsuki Universal+ Removel

[Shadowbokunohero]

Im not saying that obito's MS couldnt have made it but this specific scan isnt strong. its not impossible there are other dimensions sustain and created by being simply existing like nue

 

[Foriaa]

5 pages of relentless back and forth

 

[KingTempest]

Im not saying that obito's MS couldnt have made it but this specific scan isnt strong. its not impossible there are other dimensions sustain and created by being simply existing like nue

imma just text you on discord

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

Umidasu is the right word.. you had translated
tsukuridasu

you have the wrong kanji

my chat still had your the stuff we were debating about on discord when i quoted you, so instead of quoting KT's stuff i accidentally posted the same stuff again

 

[Samlex1234]

Im not saying that obito's MS couldnt have made it but this specific scan isnt strong. its not impossible there are other dimensions sustain and created by being simply existing like nue

Kaguya’s , Momoshiki, Isshiki.. People can access them without Dojustu even for Kaguya long after she was gone people could still access it.. Kaguya could even destroy and create one on panel.. so them being tied to Dojustu is actually a moot point. Though I’m not sure how that affects Shibai’s argument.. Because the existence of another universe was already directly confirmed..

 

[KingTempest]

5 pages of relentless back and forth

This how every Naruto thread with a disagreement goes, shit is never quick

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

yo what happened to Ichimoji

OP has been long since castrated and ee'd, thread's only open because of KT & Shadow (the one with numbers, not to be confused with the persona goon shadow)

would it have been better as a staff thread?

It wouldn't, most of them don't even have in-verse knowledge and would be in a worse place to evaluate it, the people in the thread rn are better suited for this lol

This how every Naruto thread with a disagreement goes, shit is never quick

Not a HST thread if we don't go through 10 pages of salt and autism

 

[KingTempest]

The OP's intentions were good and I agree with his endgoal but the original post was honestly so bad i wouldn't be mad to close it

 

[Samlex1234]

5 pages of relentless back and forth

This thread should have been thrown out in one page if people just read the previous thread before opening another one and not just cope.. Like you see bunch of repeated points and arguments it becomes exhausting and tiring at this point.
P1 I agree
P2 I too I agree with the person that agreed
P3 Yeah same FRA
P4 FRA
P5 FRA
P6 I agree too FRA..

And then you check the reason above and you are almost brought to tears simply based on how bad it is.. wheewww.. If there is a Current world does that not mean there was a previous world. Current world is one, previous world is 2 , which means two separate worlds tada.. like it not a rocket science.

 

[KingTempest]

This thread should have been thrown out in one page if people just read the previous thread before opening another one and not just cope.. Like you see bunch of repeated points and arguments it becomes exhausting and tiring at this point.
P1 I agree
P2 I too I agree with the person that agreed
P3 Yeah same FRA
P4 FRA
P5 FRA
P6 I agree too FRA..

And then you check the reason above and you are almost brought to tears simply based on how bad it is.. wheewww.. If there is a Current world does that not mean there was a previous world. Current world is one, previous world is 2 , which means two separate worlds tada.. like it not a rocket science.

We need people on this thread who have read more than 5 books cause if your only interpretation of world was "universe" instead of "current rewrite" and you have the loudest voice then there's a problem

 

[DavidTPPM]

This was one of the main issues I had with the original CRT besides the biblical genesis stuff.

The Cosmology of Naruto is not accepted as a Multiverse to suggest these beings came from another universe to make a new one.

For what? To give food to the lesser otsutsuki to hunt down like it’s Toriko?

The problem is, that's just not how it works.
Naruto doesn't need to have an established multiverse. YOU would have to prove it has established the non-existence of a multiverse to claim this is a contradiction.

If you can't prove a multiverse does NOT exist then there's no contradiction.

To put it in nerd terms, the person making a claim has the burden of proof and the absence of existence that there is a multiverse is not the evidence of absence of said multiverse. So the person making the claim that this is a contradiction has the burden to prove a lack of a multiverse, not the other way around.

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

meme applies to most naruto downgrade attempts btw, not just this

 

[KingTempest]

The problem is, that's just not how it works.
Naruto doesn't need to have an established multiverse. YOU would have to prove it has established the non-existence of a multiverse to claim this is a contradiction.

If you can't prove a multiverse does NOT exist then there's no contradiction.

To put it in nerd terms, the person making a claim has the burden of proof and the absence of existence that there is a multiverse is not the evidence of absence of said multiverse. So the person making the claim that this is a contradiction has the burden to prove a lack of a multiverse, not the other way around.

...no...

Initially the point was that they were from another planet. To note the existence of a multiverse to say "that other planet is in another universe", that needs to be proven.

To make an insane claim of a larger plane of existence as if we need to prove that it doesn't exist is ridiculous and insane.

 

[DavidTPPM]

meme applies to most naruto downgrade attempts btw, not just this

"poopy CRT"

 

[Samlex1234]

We need people on this thread who have read more than 5 books cause if your only interpretation of world was "universe" instead of "current rewrite" and you have the loudest voice then there's a problem

The word Created was used. Not rewrite. Infact the word used is not just generic creation it implies creating from scratch bring the world itself into existence.. So no there is no need for headcanon interpretation the word is literally right infront of you..
創る際に
→ “when creating”
→ “at the time of creation”

 

[KingTempest]

The word Created was used. Not rewrite. Infact the word used is not just generic creation it implies creating from scratch bring the world itself into existence.. So no there is no need for headcanon interpretation the word is literally right infront of you..
創る際に
→ “when creating”
→ “at the time of creation”

English usage of creation
"He created the current times"
Doesn't mean that he created the damn dimension of time

Created doesn't always mean MANUFACTURED, it can also mean BROUGHT ABOUT.

Just like the damn Kamui scan you complained about.

 

[ichimojii]

ngl I don't really see an argument that tackles the main points brought up in the previous thread but I'll address some things.

Spoiler: Thoughts on Low 2-C Omnipotence

In the initial thread, the kanji for Momoshiki's statement was directly translated

"In other words, it is the programming language for Genesis, an absolute will that materializes anything and everything, that is Omnipotence." - Momoshiki

Also, this question posed by Momoshiki is pretty interesting for reasons I feel are rarely discussed: "Have you ever contemplated how many times an Otsutsuki who became God may have previously manipulated Humankind's memories?"

So obviously Momo's not saying that previous Otsutsuki Gods flew to Earth specifically to alter their memories, Earth wasn't even a target or known specifically for the wider Otsutsuki Clan to take the energy from over thousands of years into their conquest, so it's not viewed by them as particularly special in any way.

Spoiler: Thoughts on Low 2-C Omnipotence

Yet in Momoshiki's eyes, it is very possible that, as an offshoot of an Otsutsuki God, manipulating a larger populace in some way, that Humankind could have been affected in the past, due to the fact that every person's (he didn't even specify human for this one) consciousness is linked via chakra...

...tbh I find it hard to believe he's not talking about the Universe as a whole, especially with the other quote referencing "the genesis of anything and everything", and equating Omnipotence to a programming language of reality, not to mention the adjacent power of Shibai, Prescience, allowing him to see "all possible futures." does add some narrative consistency for these godly powers having meant to be an all encompassing, power that presides over their reality.

In my eyes, this argument that the previous CRT got accepted is pretty solid, all things considered.

Spoiler: Thoughts on the OP

That aside, the argument of Momo just being flowery is pretty weak IMO, especially when comparing it to a Naruto databook.

Databooks are by nature more expressive, whereas in this instance, Momo is being very matter-of-fact about what Omnipotence is to explain to Boruto what this ability is capable of, not to mention Boruto as a series (more specifically, Ikemoto) is usually much more specific about how jutsu work compared to the original series and its databooks, so I don't think the two are comparable.

And Otsutsuki being resistant to Omnipotence's Hax doesn't really contradict or make the statement about its effects on the wider world less viable.

Otsutsuki are themselves practically demigods, with their abilities, Shinjutsu, being defined as miracles or acts of God in the eyes of less mortal species, with their race seemingly being the only one in the Narutoverse we have seen capable of ascending to true Godhood, they are definitely written to be an exception to the rules rather than some kind of inconsistency with Omnipotence's mechanics.

Also, where has it been stated that the Naruto Universe is millions of years old? Or that Isshiki is saying that all Otsutsuki activity has only been going on for thousands of years? It seems to me like he's talking about the custom for the general Otsutsuki populace to scavenge the Universe and grow stronger to eventually become an Otsutsuki God.

Considering being an Otsutsuki God seems to have already been a concept before they set out on this, as it's their whole goal, the concept of an Otsutsuki God has probably existed longer than the actual custom for all Otsutsuki to go around trying to become one.

So yeah, I disagree with this thread.

It's a hyperbolic statement which I proved in post. Momoshiki claimed it can do anything and everything but then debunked himself by saying it doesn't work on the user or otsutsuki. Prescience is not all encompassing at all kashin koji sees one set of futures at time with each up data taking days to come. If he was seeing all possible futures he wouldn't be getting updates of new futures

His claim about otsusuki not going to earth in the past is headcanon we don't know what otsusuki gods deemed earth as in the past nor do we know how earth's chakra was in the past

The databooks are still used to make arguments on the site. He's saying the statements regarding the 10 tails creating the universe are hyperboles so he can then argue Omnipotence not being a hyperbolic. You have to prove why Momoshiki's would make more sense which he hasnt. Momoshiki's statement is not diffenitve at all. That's why word said is used.


Isshiki says they have been eating planet's for 1000s of years in order to become a god. Isshiki,Amado,momoshiki and the database said this. They aren't just born gods and make worlds. He's just adding his own interpretations rather then reading the statement for what is. Their where dinosaurs before the clan which were around 10s of thousands of years according to sasuke novel chapter 5

 

[DavidTPPM]

It's a hyperbolic statement which I proved in post.

Live footage of Ikemoto describing Shibai as a "higher dimensional God" that was said to have created the world with an ability that can "make anything and everything real" just for it all to be wrong because uhhhh a Naruto databook was once hyperbolic or something:

No offense but that has got to be a top 10 worst arguments against uni Shibai ever.

 

[KingTempest]

No offense but that has got to be a top 10 worst arguments against uni Shibai ever.

mfs under 100 comments be like

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

the databooks are not hyperbolic or wrong, powerscalers just have bad reading comprehension and cant distinguish poetic/symbolic language and when its intended to be literal.

for example Temari blowing away the universe is actually 100% consistent with the series and makes sense when you read it like your meant too.

universe= badly translated kanji for world.

she blows away the world> like blowing away someone with an amazing performance> means she has really good wind ninjutsu that impresses people

the blow is also a pun because she uses a GIANT FAN

 

[DavidTPPM]

the databooks are not hyperbolic or wrong, powerscalers just have bad reading comprehension and cant distinguish poetic/symbolic language and when its intended to be literal.

for example Temari blowing away the universe is actually 100% consistent with the series and makes sense when you read it like your meant too.

universe= badly translated kanji for world.

she blows away the world> like blowing away someone with an amazing performance> means she has really good wind ninjutsu that impresses people

the blow is also a pun because she uses a GIANT FAN

Nah bro either you think Temari is universal or you accept that every single letter (yes letter not just words) ever written in any databook or anything similar is completely hyperbolic!

 

[KingTempest]

Some shit be hyperbolic and some shit just has multiple definitions

I truly do not believe "he created the world" means "he generated the universe". I genuinely think it means he just did a lot of shit, including mind wiping, and the "current state of the world" is him

 

[Samlex1234]

English usage of creation
"He created the current times"
Doesn't mean that he created the damn dimension of time

Created doesn't always mean MANUFACTURED, it can also mean BROUGHT ABOUT.

Just like the damn Kamui scan you complained about.

“He created the current times ”
Pure headcanon master lol.

The claim is basically: an Ōtsutsuki ascends to godhood, looks around, and says “wow, what can I do now… let me create the current times with Omnipotence.” mtcheww…

No Japanese Authors don’t choose words at random, and each term carries a specific semantic load, especially in lore text.

Even in English, creation isn’t a single concept. “Genesis” refers to the absolute beginning and origin of something not a later phase or “era.”

Here, the text explicitly uses:

• 創世 (sōsei) — world genesis / origin of the world
• 創る (tsukuru) — to create / originate / bring into existence

Both point directly to origination point, not “current times,” “modern era,”

And for clarity: the terminology used here is not the same language used for things like Kamui dimensions. So no this isn’t “creating the current times” (like that does not even make sense at all when did the world sekai start translating to era). It’s origin-level creation, and pretending otherwise is just headcanon period the semantics here is too much this thread should not be allowed to continue with arguments like this we have moved the goalpost out of the field.

 

[KingTempest]

“He created the current times ”
Pure headcanon master lol.

The claim is basically: an Ōtsutsuki ascends to godhood, looks around, and says “wow, what can I do now… let me create the current times with Omnipotence.” mtcheww…

No Japanese Authors don’t choose words at random, and each term carries a specific semantic load, especially in lore text.

Even in English, creation isn’t a single concept. “Genesis” refers to the absolute beginning and origin of something not a later phase or “era.”

Here, the text explicitly uses:

• 創世 (sōsei) — world genesis / origin of the world
• 創る (tsukuru) — to create / originate / bring into existence

Both point directly to origination point, not “current times,” “modern era,”

And for clarity: the terminology used here is not the same language used for things like Kamui dimensions. So no this isn’t “creating the current times” (like that does not even make sense like when did the world sekai start translating to era). It’s origin-level creation, and pretending otherwise is just headcanon period the semantics here is too much this thread is should not be allowed to continue with arguments like this we have moved the goalpost out of the field.

Have you read 10 books?

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

I truly do not believe "he created the world" means "he generated the universe". I genuinely think it means he just did a lot of shit, including mind wiping, and the "current state of the world" is him

IDK i think personally he prob controls fate or something like a puppet master, shibai the name has a lot of ties with theater plays and "acting" then theres that one off statement that Jura makes when he misses boruto's vital, something paraphrasing as if a god was interfering .

 

[KingTempest]

Have you read 10 books?

I say this because it is common to utilize the phrase "create" and not refer to "generate from nothing".

Not everything is ex-nihilo.

And to believe so is powerscaling brainrot

 

[KingTempest]

IDK i think personally he prob controls fate or something like a puppet master, shibai the name has a lot of ties with theater plays and "acting" then theres that one off statement that Jura makes when he misses boruto's vital, something paraphrasing as if a god was interfering .

this is better but i don't think this mf just shat a universe out of nowhere it makes no logical sense

 

[Samlex1234]

I say this because it is common to utilize the phrase "create" and not refer to "generate from nothing".

Not everything is ex-nihilo.

And to believe so is powerscaling brainrot

You are the person with a power scaling brainrot here and you are obviously do this out of pure bias because if not you would not be spurting the same shit over and over again.. What is Genesis???? Better think before you talk you caveman.

 

[Foriaa]

Have you read 10 books?

 

[KingTempest]

You are the person with a power scaling brainrot here and you are obviously do this out of pure bias because if not you would not be spurting the same shit over and over again.. What is Genesis???? Better think before you talk you caveman.

Genesis refers to the creation of something, or the origin of something.
Usually it refers to the bible Book of Genesis, which is why you capitalized it.

When it's not referring to the bible, it's referring to just "the creation of the world". Of course, the word world in japan utilizes Sekai (世), so creation of the world would mean either.

word

Spoiler: ---

It is said to be the programming language that "God" used in the process of "creating the world".
The absolute will that manifests anything and everything.
That is "Omnipotence".

創世 by itself, in all of the J-J dictionaries i looked at, essentially translates to "the creation of the world" [using the same sekai, none of them specify universe or planet or whatever]
like KT mentioned above you have 創世記 which is specifically the book of genesis from the old testament but that's not the same word

Usually it refers to "the first".

Another example, Kaguya has her "genesis dimension". That is also called the root dimension. It is not a dimension that created everything in existence, but it is clearly called a "genesis dimension".

When people say create, it just means brought about. It could be the genesis of the new age. It could be the genesis of the era. Etc. This is why they refer to it as the "current world", because it's the world after the unknown otsutsuki god tweaked it. But unfortunately people saw that a mind rewipe ability had reality warping and the first thing they thought was that it was used to generate the universe.

This is the root of Powerscaling brainrot. People think everything is involving powerscaling. "His strength is unmatched" people think it's muscles. "The force of his blows" is now lifting strength. "He got his task done the fastest" means he has the highest speed rating.

This is why I asked if you've read more than 10 books. Because it seems like all your knowledge is limited to powerscaling, when these terms mean more than just powerscaling terms.

You for example think creation by default refers to creating as in generation, but then @Shadowbokunohero came and showed that "creation" came about in a different terminology, although not generation, bringing forth things.

"The world" as in sekai is used for many things. Society, planet, universe, lifestyle, etc. In many verses it varies and the point of this thread is to see what it means. For example, the verse many people on this site can't stand, one piece. Sekai refers to the likes of the planet but people here thinks it means society. In this thread it is immediately meant to mean the universe, and we're having dialogue on what it's possibly referring to.

I could easily thread ban you and go along with my day but I intend to leave this thread with someone smarter than they entered it. But I won't.

So I have calmed down.
But if you insult me again I will utilize my power and thread ban you and go along with my day. Because your mouth runs like water but not a drop of substance leaves it.

 

[ichimojii]

the databooks are not hyperbolic or wrong, powerscalers just have bad reading comprehension and cant distinguish poetic/symbolic language and when its intended to be literal.

What makes momoshiki's statement any different? It can still be poetic/symbolic. Obito claimed hagoromo made the world. Madara claimed the forces of yin and yang made the world. These are just belief systems no different then people believing in a god without proof

for example Temari blowing away the universe is actually 100% consistent with the series and makes sense when you read it like your meant too.

universe= badly translated kanji for world.

she blows away the world> like blowing away someone with an amazing performance> means she has really good wind ninjutsu that impresses people

the blow is also a pun because she uses a GIANT FAN

 

[Samlex1234]

this is better but i don't think this mf just shat a universe out of nowhere it makes no logical sense

It makes logical sense. The only reason you’re struggling with this is bias, not a flaw in the argument.
We’ve already established multiple times that Shibai is not the only Ōtsutsuki to achieve godhood. Canon explicitly tells us others existed before him, and others will exist after. This is a clan whose entire purpose is ascension. So the question isn’t whether more gods exist it’s what happens when they reach that state.
Take Momoshiki, Isshiki, and Kinshiki. If and when they reach godhood, do their abilities suddenly become “name-locked” exceptions? Of course not. Godhood is a state, not a unique individual gimmick.
The idea that Ōtsutsuki gods manipulate or rewrite memory isn’t new, speculative, or fan theory. Momoshiki already brought this up on-panel. Omnipotence is explicitly described as reality warping, and not just any reality warping it is the highest attainable technique in the entire verse. Every other ability pales in comparison.

This power comes with godhood, and the being who wields it also becomes a higher-dimensional existence. We already have precedent: Kaguya demonstrates dimensional creation and manipulation well below this level. So why would it suddenly become “illogical” for the pinnacle of all abilities in the verse to include universe-level creation? Why is ability that is so powerful it requires you to be omnipotent and omniscience to wield not be able to create a universe??? what is the logical issue ?

 

[Dalesean027]

Are there any summary post or can OP be updated with scans

 

[Foriaa]

you gon have to read every page gang

 

[KingTempest]

Are there any summary post or can OP be updated with scans

Heard that though.

First of all I'm pretty sure with a verse as big as Naruto/Boruto you need 3 staff agreeals for it but since it went through I don't really care too much.

Regarding the OP​

The Otsutsuki do come from a different planet. They aren't predatehistoryesque individuals, they come from another planet, meaning that if that planet predated them, the universe predated them.

The lore of the Otsutsuki is not that they just had ancient gods who created the universe and everything in it. Momoshiki's statement was not referring to any transcendent individuals who existed prior to the birth of the universe. It was referring to those who were TURNED into gods (notice how he blatantly said BECAME). And as we know, the only way you turn into an otsutsuki god is if you eat the fruit of divine trees, said fruit that is rooted from the chakra of planets, said planets (which have to be a diabolical crap ton) which come from the already existing universe.

The entire point of the Otsutsuki will is that they are a race of mortal aliens meant to endlessly evolve until they reach godhood, which contradicts the belief that there were previously existing deities that just created the world. And that could be deduced I guess, but to deduce that from the statements of Momoshiki who is blatantly speaking about those who already exist, that just shows that this is wrong.

The previous OP can't use statements of "people evolved through these existing planets to create these pre-existing planets that predate them", that's just wrong.

I noted that I agree with the OP because the OP made a point. It was horribly written but it was a point.

Even in the previous OP, they blatantly say this

The nature of Shibai is that he was a mortal who became an immortal through the usage of frequent god trees. If he's of the same nature, and it's blatantly said that an otsutsuki became a god, then we can deduce that the same nature being spoken of is the divine nature that was given based on constant evolution based on the pre-existent planets.

TLDR

Otsutsuki gods only exist when Otsutsuki evolve -> Otsutsuki evolve when they eat chakra fruits -> chakra fruits come from planets -> you can't have an otsutsuki god without planets -> an otsutsuki god couldn't have created everything in existence if he needed that existence to become a god -> an otsutsuki god didn't create everything in existence

My personal reasons​

I find the argument of the "Genesis" being one of the weakest tier 2 arguments on the site. And not to diss the previous OP but moreso the line of logic that made it through.

The abuse of the phrase "genesis" and "world" to directly mean that it formed universe seems like a big leap in logic. Like said, it's very akin to when Naruto said the sage created everything but then we saw he was born on earth. It's the same leap of logic

Genesis refers to the origin of something. It's not specifically meant for the birth of the universe no it's meant for the origin of something. Ex Nihilo gets the point out more but even that doesn't work. With that being said, Naruto as a series, and I guess Kishimoto and Ikemoto, are not so vague as to try to say "the world" and mean the further unexplored cosmos. Whenever they feel like it they will emphasize larger bodies, which is why occasionally they use universe and space-time and such.

The databook post talking about their goals and purpose is that they evolve through the need of other planets.

The OP used a needless jump in logic to say "worlds is wrong, it means universe" without a speck of japanese dissection (and the only japanese translations he did use said world), and he tried to use the biblical genesis example of genesis, and to note that there's gods who did a genesis, as a way of saying "Boruto gods pulled a biblical God and made the universe". It's a very flimsy jjk buddhist real world connection point esque argument.

 

[Samlex1234]

Genesis refers to the creation of something, or the origin of something.
Usually it refers to the bible Book of Genesis, which is why you capitalized it.

When it's not referring to the bible, it's referring to just "the creation of the world". Of course, the word world in japan utilizes Sekai (世), so creation of the world would mean either.

Usually it refers to "the first".

Another example, Kaguya has her "genesis dimension". That is also called the root dimension. It is not a dimension that created everything in existence, but it is clearly called a "genesis dimension".

When people say create, it just means brought about. It could be the genesis of the new age. It could be the genesis of the era. Etc. This is why they refer to it as the "current world", because it's the world after the unknown otsutsuki god tweaked it. But unfortunately people saw that a mind rewipe ability had reality warping and the first thing they thought was that it was used to generate the universe.

This is the root of Powerscaling brainrot. People think everything is involving powerscaling. "His strength is unmatched" people think it's muscles. "The force of his blows" is now lifting strength. "He got his task done the fastest" means he has the highest speed rating.

This is why I asked if you've read more than 10 books. Because it seems like all your knowledge is limited to powerscaling, when these terms mean more than just powerscaling terms.

You for example think creation by default refers to creating as in generation, but then @Shadowbokunohero came and showed that "creation" came about in a different terminology, although not generation, bringing forth things.

"The world" as in sekai is used for many things. Society, planet, universe, lifestyle, etc. In many verses it varies and the point of this thread is to see what it means. For example, the verse many people on this site can't stand, one piece. Sekai refers to the likes of the planet but people here thinks it means society. In this thread it is immediately meant to mean the universe, and we're having dialogue on what it's possibly referring to.

I could easily thread ban you and go along with my day but I intend to leave this thread with someone smarter than they entered it. But I won't.

So I have calmed down.
But if you insult me again I will utilize my power and thread ban you and go along with my day. Because your mouth runs like water but not a drop of substance leaves it.

You could easily ban me from this thread..? In your life don’t ever say that again to me don’t ever threaten me again with that nonsense.. You want to talk about insults that you started? You want to insult people but not have it reciprocated to you what a joke.. the word is not just genesis as in the bible.. it is sosei meaning world Genesis or creation of the world.. The word use for that and the Kaguya dimension is not the same one is literal and the other can mean origin space, you don’t find the word for genesis in there at all .. you need to stop goalpost shifting………

Are there any summary post or can OP be updated with scans

I suggest you read the original thread.. for the main argument for.

 

[KingTempest]

You could easily ban me from this thread..?

Yup

 

[SlendVeny]

KT's right ngl

 

[Dalesean027]

Damn didn't notice tensions were this high here, can everyone chill out and @KingTempest please refrain from these sorts of threats, if individuals have done stuff wrong or ban worthy then RVR can handle making those decisions not the you as an individual

The rest of yall chill out too

you gon have to read every page gang

I'm tired boss, just one cup of summaries please

 

[KingTempest]

KT you're kinda insufferable tbh. You clearly insulted him as well. And you did that with others who tried calling out your biases, including me. Gonna go ahead and ban everyone now?

You've been gone for 4 pages i don't wanna hear a word out of you.
You've contributed nothing except heckling me and calling people bias.
You have done nothing on this thread except antagonize.
If I was to take you to the rvr right now I would be completely in the right.

I didn't insult a single member on this forum in this entire thread. I actually went through every message I said in this thread to double check to make sure. The closest thing to an insult was the "have you read 10 books", and that was out of genuine concern and I elaborated on why I said it in a manner meant to educate because it seemed like all of his knowledge was just powerscaling, deliberately taking a calm respectful tone, and his first response was getting mad at me so I threadbanned him temporarily for a chunk of hours so that he would stop throwing insults and weird jabs with high horse arrogance in literally every message.

There is no biases. The fact that you note simple disagreement as bias says it all. I noted a disagreement and you instantly called me bias and came at my verses, which is funny cause I was a Naruto scaler on this wiki long before I was a One Piece one, but I digress

I didn't thread ban him solely cause of that, I did it so that he could spend time without insulting and antagonizing people. He's been banned for a handful of hours. He'll be able to talk later today.

I am not going to be antagonized because I have an opinion. The sole reason as to why I haven't brought people to the rvr in this thread is solely because I do not want to build up you guys' warnings just for basic habits you all hold and I wanted to give grace. But you specifically have had a mouthful to say and you're been insufferable since so here we go.