Izuku Midoriya (Deku) Vs Lord Boros (My Hero Academia Vs One-Punch Man)

[Kingofwolves999]

Deku gets melted by Boros' energy aura before that becomes his only option

That is such a funny thing to bring up 3 pages into the debate that isn’t on his profile. His only heat is from energy bullets and his meteoric burst punch AoE.

Show scans of his Energy Aura melting people. That’s not even on his profile. He has electricity and aura from when he transforms, not passively having immense heat around him at all times that melts everything that touches him. Deku resists heat anyway, scaling directly to taking a Flashfire Fist burst from Dabi even if you want to have doubt on the Bakugo scaling (which is accepted).

How hot is this aura that he doesn’t have?

Boros increases his value enormously from the value 6A at which he is I don't see how he can do much damage to Boros especially in the meteoric form and if he uses the CSRC deku he will have very few moments to do something before Boros launches the attack and it is not said that Boros necessarily has to say the things he said to Saitama during the fight he can simply start charging the attack and after a while say the name of the move the attack as soon as it hits the ground marks the end of the fight and Boros wins for me
Deku uses the soul manipulation attack only as a last resort when he is really desperate and before getting close to Boros, in my opinion the latter will have plenty of time to cast the CSRC taking into account that the energy emanating from Boros could cause problems for Deku to get close to him

Imo Boros win extreme diff

Are you assuming that Boros is starting in Meteoric Burst? Because if so, Deku activates gearshift near instantly in the fight and just blitz punches Boros the entire time.

I’m the one who WROTE the quote from the previous thread about his mind state about the Soul Punch, Deku is far more open to using Soul Destruction when he doesn’t have help and the planet is on the line. He can sense Boros’s power from Danger Sense and the Vestiges, so couple that with Boros having better regeneration than Shigaraki, on top of Deku being FAR more willing to kill Boros here since he isn’t invested in saving him, and Deku would turn to Soul Destruction in a heartbeat if it saves the planet.

The aura he creates when charging the CSRC can just be tanked, its electricity and Deku is fast enough to reach Boros before he charges it anyway. Boros can’t even perceive Deku when he’s using Gearshift, so a 5x amped punch is gonna mess with his concentration or result in him getting his soul destroyed.

The conditions aren’t the same as the Saitama fight, but Boros will likely be just far more annoyed and agitated and vengeful vs Deku than vs. Saitama. So I don’t see why he wouldn’t announce he plans to destroy Deku and his world when Deku is constantly beating him up and Boros wants to prove himself the strongest. Deku would be the strongest opponent he’s faced, to the point of being overwhelming, so why would he not announce his best when Deku has been beating him down so viciously? And if he’s in Meteoric Burst, he’s already acknowledged that the person he’s fighting is worthy of his best no?

It just seems more in character that he would say he’s gonna blow up the planet than that he wouldn’t.

Not that it matters since Deku would sense the power gap with Danger Sense anyway and would seek to soul destroy or intercept Boros in anyway possible the moment he starts charging it.

 

[Kachon123]

That is such a funny thing to bring up 3 pages into the debate that isn’t on his profile. His only heat is from energy bullets and his meteoric burst punch AoE.

It's on his profile. Where do you think the punch AoE from Meteoric Burst comes from? It's the fact that he's boosting his body and coating it with his internal energy.

Show scans of his Energy Aura melting people. That’s not even on his profile. He has electricity and aura from when he transforms, not passively having immense heat around him at all times that melts everything that touches him. Deku resists heat anyway, scaling directly to taking a Flashfire Fist burst from Dabi even if you want to have doubt on the Bakugo scaling (which is accepted).

The aura covering his body that allows extends from punches. We even see it better in the anime.

 

[JoeDM021]

Deku FRA (Reasons: @Kingofwolves999 & @CastoriceTheFifth )

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Whats Boros' heat value

 

[MochOath]

why doesnt Deku just SI Boros?
Is he stupid?

 

[Kingofwolves999]

It's on his profile. Where do you think the punch AoE from Meteoric Burst comes from? It's the fact that he's boosting his body and coating it with his internal energy.

The aura covering his body that allows extends from punches. We even see it better in the anime.

Prove that that Aura is the same heat value as the actual explosion of his punch? Weren’t you the one that said it’s a different thing in the first place? And he definitely does NOT seem to burn things by touching them, he has to direct the energy like he does his bullets.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

why doesnt Deku just SI Boros?
Is he stupid?

I mean unironically he would ask Boros why he is doing this in the midst of fighting him.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

why doesnt Deku just SI Boros?
Is he stupid?

That gave me a good laugh

 

[Kachon123]

Prove that that Aura is the same heat value as the actual explosion of his punch? Weren’t you the one that said it’s a different thing in the first place? And he definitely does NOT seem to burn things by touching them, he has to direct the energy like he does his bullets.

Dude what, the energy that Boros uses in Meteoric Burst to coat his body and propel himself is the same thing as the energy Boros uses to punch.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Dude what, the energy that Boros uses in Meteoric Burst to coat his body and propel himself is the same thing as the energy Boros uses to punch.

That doesn’t mean it’s the same temperature or has the same property though? Just cause he’s using that energy to move around and propel himself, doesn’t mean the temperature is the same as when he directs that energy specifically to cause harm with far more of it gathered on his fist. This is like saying all fire from the Todoroki’s is the exact same because regardless of the fire they’re using, it’s all from the same source. You can have energy applied in two different ways and be completely different, especially when one of those ways is for direct offense while the other is just a result of you having the energy in the first place.

 

[Kachon123]

That doesn’t mean it’s the same temperature or has the same property though? Just cause he’s using that energy to move around and propel himself, doesn’t mean the temperature is the same as when he directs that energy specifically to cause harm with far more of it gathered on his fist. This is like saying all fire from the Todoroki’s is the exact same because regardless of the fire they’re using, it’s all from the same source. You can have energy applied in two different ways and be completely different, especially when one of those ways is for direct offense while the other is just a result of you having the energy in the first place.

Bro it's literally ALL Boros' internal energy. Boros is not directing any excess energy for blows like this. It's literally the result of the same internal energy coating he's always surrounded with in Meteoric Burst. You can't be serious.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

I would still love to know the heat value for Boros

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Bro it's literally ALL Boros' internal energy. Boros is not directing any excess energy for blows like this. It's literally the result of the same internal energy coating he's always surrounded with in Meteoric Burst. You can't be serious.

You can’t be serious claiming that him throwing a punch releases the same energy as him just standing still. We literally see in the anime, after he kicks Saitama, that he has no flaring aura or is melting anything. He is just standing still in his form without any power at all. And when Saitama comes back, it flares up as he rushes to hit him, STILL without any burning or widespread heat destruction. It clearly has to be actively used to cause severe heat and melt his surroundings.

Unless of course you want to get back to the topic of how Meteoric Burst Boros will last less than 5 minutes?

 

[Kachon123]

You can’t be serious claiming that him throwing a punch releases the same energy as him just standing still. We literally see in the anime, after he kicks Saitama, that he has no flaring aura or is melting anything. He is just standing still in his form without any power at all. And when Saitama comes back, it flares up as he rushes to hit him, STILL without any burning or widespread heat destruction. It clearly has to be actively used to cause severe heat and melt his surroundings.

He actively transferred the energy around his body to Saitama. Unless you can give me a reason why he would be doing that against Deku while being pummeled by Gearshift, then this isn't an argument.

 

[Da3ggman]

Ngl I'm feeling Boros on this one, even with the monstrous LS advantage Deku got.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

He actively transferred the energy around his body to Saitama. Unless you can give me a reason why he would be doing that against Deku while being pummeled by Gearshift, then this isn't an argument.

Boros has energy transferral? When was that established?

What you mean to say is that Boros is constantly burning energy in this form, and that when he punches or kicks, he spends a lot more of it. His kick has a lot of power behind it, so he lost a lot of power.

Against Deku, he’s just going to be bleeding energy the entire time without being able to fight back unless Deku intentionally baits him into throwing a punch or kick, which he absolutely would do. Boros would be wasting energy into the air instead of into a person, so he would lose.

 

[Kachon123]

Boros has energy transferral? When was that established?

What you mean to say is that Boros is constantly burning energy in this form, and that when he punches or kicks, he spends a lot more of it. His kick has a lot of power behind it, so he lost a lot of power.

A long ******* time ago lol?

"A technique that evelops the opponent with energy and launches them off at nearly the speed of light"

It's literally where Boros gets his Rel+ rating from

 

[Kingofwolves999]

A long ******* time ago lol?

"A technique that evelops the opponent with energy and launches them off at nearly the speed of light"

It's literally where Boros gets his Rel+ rating from

I feel you’re dodging a lot of what else I’m saying.

Meteoric Burst Boros is wasting energy just by existing, per his own words. It is a burden that tires him out. Even if he never throws a single punch, the form is not permanent.

Deku can sense power and has multiple people in his head + a speed amp that lets him both perception blitz his enemy with just the first stage, and can slow himself down to intentionally bait attacks (which he did vs Shigaraki).

How would Deku with his Genius intellect not piece together that just tiring out Boros would be a viable option? If anything, beating him up, then baiting him into throwing a punch so he can get his own punch on him would be one of the first things he does. Gearshift increases and decreases speed without abiding by the law of inertia, Deku can easily make Boros throw strikes or attempt to fight back without any way to actually do damage and instead just waste more energy.

 

[Kachon123]

I feel you’re dodging a lot of what else I’m saying.

Meteoric Burst Boros is wasting energy just by existing, per his own words. It is a burden that tires him out. Even if he never throws a single punch, the form is not permanent.

Deku can sense power and has multiple people in his head + a speed amp that lets him both perception blitz his enemy with just the first stage, and can slow himself down to intentionally bait attacks (which he did vs Shigaraki).

How would Deku with his Genius intellect not piece together that just tiring out Boros would be a viable option? If anything, beating him up, then baiting him into throwing a punch so he can get his own punch on him would be one of the first things he does. Gearshift increases and decreases speed without abiding by the law of inertia, Deku can easily make Boros throw strikes or attempt to fight back without any way to actually do damage and instead just waste more energy.

You're switching your argument now.

First you said that he would pop Gearshift off-rip to pummel Boros. I responded saying that Boros' energy aura would melt Deku if he does that. Now you're changing to saying that he would instead know to tire Boros out. Stay consistent.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

You're switching your argument now.

First you said that he would pop Gearshift off-rip to pummel Boros. I responded saying that Boros' energy aura would melt Deku if he does that. Now you're changing to saying that he would instead know to tire Boros out. Stay consistent.

Deku pummels and baits at the same time, are you being intentionally obtuse?

He is going to Fa Jin + Gearshift punch spam him. When he does that, he baits enemies into hitting him so he can use Low Gear and they miss. That is literally what he does on screen. He would just do that here.

What is your rebuttal to this.

 

[Kachon123]

What is your rebuttal to this.

That the pummel and bait tactic doesn't work because the pummel part would result in Deku getting his arms melted off.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

You’re trying to paint this debate as anything other than “Boros gets beat up, wastes his energy and loses to getting his soul destroyed” is ridiculous.

Every argument you give is refuted, you backstep and pivot more than a ballerina and are incapable of just answering basic questions, instead hyper focusing on anything that distracts from the obvious holes in every argument you make.

Boros has heat aura? What value is it and it gets removed if he expends energy.

Boros has regen? Soul destruction.

Boros won’t waste energy? Deku baits him into doing exactly that, regardless of knowing if he needs to or not, because that’s what he does in character.

Literally every argument you have has a rebuttal that you refuse to engage with.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

That the pummel and bait tactic doesn't work because the pummel part would result in Deku getting his arms melted off.

What is the heat value. You’ve dodged that long enough.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Saying “you’re switching your argument now” when you present an entirely new argument that wasn’t mentioned before as some kind of gotcha is ridiculous. You’ve been changing your argument every page, but I decide to engage with it and suddenly I’m the one shifting a goalpost? You can’t even answer how Boros melts Deku past heat resistance because you’re busy trying to find a wank answer so that he can win.

Go ahead and give me another sudden Win Con Boros has or tell me he scales to the heat of the sun or something which has never been said in any debate prior. I’ll wait.

 

[Kachon123]

Boros has heat aura? What value is it and it gets removed if he expends energy.

"Every argument you give is refuted," incredibly ironic given this was debunked 5 posts ago you're a joke, really.

What is the heat value. You’ve be dodged that long enough.

He can melt objects that can withstand 9627 C temperatures without issues.

Boros has regen? Soul destruction.

He needs to touch Boros for that, and it's already been established that this is a last-ditch option for Deku.

3 posts in a row is kind of desperate lol.

 

[Kachon123]

Anyways, you're still arguing based on Boros starting in Meteoric Burst, which isn't even in the OP. This is a stomp in Boros' favor.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

"Every argument you give is refuted," incredibly ironic given this was debunked 5 posts ago you're a joke, really.

He can melt objects that can withstand 9627 C temperatures without issues.

He needs to touch Boros for that, and it's already been established that this is a last-ditch option for Deku.

3 posts in a row is kind of desperate lol.

You’re the joke here, being so desperate to have a Boros win you bring up an article not even on his page. Boros has 9627 C temperature? Really? Where is that in his page? You gonna make a CRT to add that wank or what?

 

[Kachon123]

You’re the joke here, being so desperate to have a Boros win you bring up an article not even on his page. Boros has 9627 C temperature? Really? Where is that in his page? You gonna make a CRT to add that wank or what?

It's literally the temperature of atmospheric re-entry that Boros' ship withstood when entering Earth. Boros can melt his ship. Just because you don't have a valid argument for your favorite character to win doesn't mean the other side is wanking. Hopefully you can grow and realize that.

 

[Kachon123]

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Could you close this since Boros starting in his Released form makes this a stomp? People are now arguing based on parameters that aren't even in the OP.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

And so Kachon ran to keeps his wank hidden, never making a CRT to inform the entire wiki that anyone who survives atmospheric re entry is 9627 C heat resistance.

A shame, I can think of some verses where that would be awesome. Sadly its wank brought out from desperation. GG.

 

[Kachon123]

You're genuinely so embarrassing. Please make an argument or move on. I'm not here for drama.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

You're genuinely so embarrassing. Please make an argument or move on. I'm not here for drama.

What argument is there to be made, it’s clearly a stomp as you’ve said my most gracious and wonderful friend. In fact, I think I’ll send your article on atmospheric re-entry to the references for common feats thread to get it added. It’s clearly a breakthrough I’ve never heard of and should be added if it’s so clear cut.

 

[Da3ggman]

Both of y'all need to chill out a bit, and stop throwing a hissy fit and screaming "Wank! Wank!"; ain't gonna get anyone anywhere. Just agree to disagree.

 

[MrTayman616]

And so Kachon ran to keeps his wank hidden, never making a CRT to inform the entire wiki that anyone who survives atmospheric re entry is 9627 C heat resistance.

I don't think atmospheric re-entry works as well. Boros's value should be at least above Steel/Iron's value based on consistently vaporizing his ship i guess?

What's Deku's value though? Does he have any other value? since his current one appears to be wrong imo.

(Btw, his heat resistance seems wrong imo.

Can take the severe heat of Dynamight's nitroglycerin-like explosions, which can incinerate clothes and even reach temperatures of 5,000 °C.

It reaches 5,000 °C, but it doesn't even last a millisecond. This is the same as how we don't just give 30,000 °C heat resistance for surviving from getting hit by a lightning, no?)

You're genuinely so embarrassing. Please make an argument or move on. I'm not here for drama.

There is no reason to talk like this either.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

I don't think atmospheric re-entry works as well. Boros's value should be at least above Steel/Iron's value based on consistently vaporizing his ship i guess?

What's Deku's value though? Does he have any other value? since his current one appears to be wrong imo.

(Btw, his heat resistance seems wrong imo.

It reaches 5,000 °C, but it doesn't even last a millisecond. This is the same as how we don't just give 30,000 °C heat resistance for surviving from getting hit by a lightning, no?)

There is no reason to talk like this either.

His other value is over 2000c scaling from baby Dabi. There’s also Dabi vaporizing Best Jeanist carbon fibers, which have melting points in like 3000c or something. And of course melting metal, which Shoto was going to do with an incomplete flashfire fist that he massively upgraded and was nothing to Dabi.

But hey, it’s a stomp already unless Therefir changes anything.

 

[Huesito88]

It reaches 5,000 °C, but it doesn't even last a millisecond. This is the same as how we don't just give 30,000 °C heat resistance for surviving from getting hit by a lightning, no?

Heat resistance doesn't care for time here. Lightning it's self has different properties on why that is here though (Regarding trying to scale heat values to lightning)

 

[Kingofwolves999]

If I get exposed to the raw heat of being in the middle of the sun for a single microsecond and am just mildly burned, what is my heat resistance

 

[Therefir]

I made Boros start in his Meteoric Burst form.

It reaches 5,000 °C, but it doesn't even last a millisecond. This is the same as how we don't just give 30,000 °C heat resistance for surviving from getting hit by a lightning, no?)

Can you give me the source of this by the way.

 

[MrTayman616]

Can you give me the source of this by the way.

...Which part? :d

 

[Kingofwolves999]

I made Boros start in his Meteoric Burst form.

Can you give me the source of this by the way.

This article apparently puts Boros and anyone else who survives atmospheric reentry at 9627 Celsius. Please check it out.