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[Voidnether]

The rule prevents him from dying, not from coming back from the dead. To the extent that one cannot simply take one’s own life.

I honestly think this is just Law Manipulation then as it's something that basically no one would be able to attempt to like kill themselves, for it to be Immortality (Type 5), it'd require the person to only be killed by EE because no conventional methods are able to kill them. In this scenario, there's no death because it's not permitted. I don't know how this would translate to Temple of Space lacking life though.

 

[MSahla]

Because it's not Dimensional Manipulation per what @Grabbing_dragon said.

Have been debunked by @Exoko here cause that's about when the page was named “Higher Dimensional Manipulation”.

Not really, Abyss having NEP1 is not only because they're non existent, but that they don't have any form

If they having NEP1 JUST because of don't have any form then it would be just Incorporeality and the likes, not NEP whatsoever. When you have Ororon's statement literally says the abyss is chaos and emptiness.

 

[Furina003]

Because it's not Dimensional Manipulation per what @Grabbing_dragon said.

Previously, this ability was called HDM, higher dimensional manipulation, but now it should be different, and only dimensional manipulation

Unless it explicitly mentions causality, it could still be done with basic Reality Warping, you'd have to prove Asmoday is metafictional for Plot Manipulation anyway.

yeah i won't comment any more on this, because it will just go around in circles

That's just Sealing really, Asmoday didn't really "crush" the Traveler because that'd imply she could resurrect the Traveler back.

restoration and deconstruction seem to be going well

Seizing sand in this context isn't really Sand Manipulation, since it's done through technological means which is just Technology Manipulation.

bro, it's not technology, but it's the asmoday authority that is in dex

Not really, Abyss having NEP1 is not only because they're non existent, but that they don't have any form and the Sinners aren't because they explicitly still have their corporeal forms.

What is it, abyss and sinners are just 2 different entities, while asmoday is explicitly mentioned as it is in CRT

I really don't have to explain why it's just Pocket Reality Manipulation here, fr. Especially not Logic Manipulation, you'd have to violate one of the three laws of thought for that explicitly.

if that's what you think then i'm fine i'll wait for the staff for logic manipulation, but void manipulation should be clear

No? It's just the people's perspective to Asmoday, because she was deemed powerless against the futility of humanity because of Heavenly Principles. Think about it like the other Shades who weren't able to help humanity because they'd violate the rules.

No, Asmoday truly does not possess empathy. That is precisely why she created Nihility and Melancholy—because these are two aspects of human perception that she cannot understand.

Nothing in the scans say Temple of Space lacks life nor death from what you quoted.

in the other scan it was clear there was no death

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

Have been debunked by @Exoko here cause that's about when the page was named “Higher Dimensional Manipulation”.

To be truly debunked, it would require a staff thread to change the part saying “Dimensional Manipulation is the ability to manipulate dimensions that aren’t limited to just three-dimensional space.” Without that change, what I said still aligns with the standards on the page.

 

[MSahla]

To be truly debunked, it would require a staff thread to change the part saying “manipulating dimensions that aren’t limited to just three-dimensional space.” Without that change, what I said still aligns with the standards on the page.

I mean, the thread that @Exoko mentioned was also included 2-dimensional.

So, you interpreted this part:
“aren’t limited to just three-dimensional space.”
As something that is higher than 3-dimensional. While the sentence after that is clearly talking about even lower dimensional, which is talking about lower than 3-dimensional. This is so easy to understand like i don't even know how you don't get that.

Dimensional Manipulation is the ability to manipulate the dimensions that aren't limited to just three-dimensional space. Its possible applications include being able to warp the dimensionality of a target to a higher or lower dimension, being capable of phasing someone in and out of existence by changing their positions in other dimensions, affecting a target by making it exist in more than one plane, among many other abilities.

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

So, you interpreted this part:
“aren’t limited to just three-dimensional space.”
As something that is higher than 3-dimensional. While the sentence after that is clearly talking about even lower dimensional, which is talking about lower than 3-dimensional. This is so easy to understand like i don't even know how you don't get that.

You are the one ignoring part of the sentence, because what it says is that dimensional manipulation is the power to manipulate dimensions higher than 3D. If someone can do that, then one of the possible applications is warping someone’s dimensionality.

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

You are the one ignoring part of the sentence, because what it says is that dimensional manipulation is the power to manipulate dimensions higher than 3D. If someone can do that, then one of the possible applications is warping someone’s dimensionality.

Never mind, a thought came to me: manipulating dimensions that aren’t limited to just three dimensions can refer to both higher and lower dimensions. I guess dimensional manipulation is fine as long as there’s no anti-feat to prevent it.

 

[MSahla]

I know that you said never mind right after this but i just wanted to say..

You are the one ignoring part of the sentence, because what it says is that dimensional manipulation is the power to manipulate dimensions higher than 3D. If someone can do that, then one of the possible applications is warping someone’s dimensionality.

No it's not, Mr. Grabbing_dragon whom i respect.

It says “aren't limited to just three-dimensional space”, it is not JUST talking about higher-dimensionals, but also includes lower-dimensional, and IT IS NOT a Minimum whatsoever, just removes the Restriction. If someone manage to downgrade someone's existence from 3-dimensional into 2-dimensional or even lower, and it is specifically stated that they are able to lower a person's dimensions, that is clearly Dimensional Manipulation. If not then what do you think it is? You're cherry-picking at the first sentence and ignoring the qualifier right after it.

In any case, yes, the standard DOES include 2-dimensional.

 

[Youngwolf-0.1]

Causality Manipulation & Reality Warping
Melanta is able to alter reality by changing the contents of a book.
When the Traveler enters the world within the book and successfully changes its ending, the reality inside the Temple of Space returns to its original state. This demonstrates control over causality as well as a narrative-based structure of reality.

I disagree with this as Causality Manipulation. Changing the ending of a book or restoring a scenario seems more consistent with reality manipulation rather than direct manipulation of cause-and-effect relationships. Yea, this is just Reality warping

 

[Furina003]

I disagree with this as Causality Manipulation. Changing the ending of a book or restoring a scenario seems more consistent with reality manipulation rather than direct manipulation of cause-and-effect relationships. Yea, this is just Reality warping

Okay, but, first i will still waiting for staff input.

 

[PedjaTarzan]

aint gonna lie bro but genshin dropping nep 2 and nonduality statement so randomly is crazy
I will comment tomorrow but mooost of the stuff is okay, immo 5 should be law hax for domain itself but for shades like sure whatever idc abt that

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Dimensional Manipulation, Immersion, and Subjective Reality
Asmoday is capable of directly manipulating dimensions. For example, the Traveler, a three-dimensional being, can be transformed into a two-dimensional entity, allowing them to enter a two-dimensional world. Paimon explicitly refers to this phenomenon as dimensional manipulation. Additionally, this ability allows Asmoday to turn paintings into reality, or revert reality back into paintings.

Looks good

Causality Manipulation & Reality Warping
Melanta is able to alter reality by changing the contents of a book.
When the Traveler enters the world within the book and successfully changes its ending, the reality inside the Temple of Space returns to its original state. This demonstrates control over causality as well as a narrative-based structure of reality.

Fine.

Transmutation And Sand Manipulation
Several guardians within the Temple of Space demonstrate transmutation abilities, such as turning humans into sand and Dex can seize objects made from quicksand

Fine

Deconstruction
show in here

Uhh no? Its more likely sealing/absorption or bfr.

Vector Manipulation
can see in here, here and here)

Not sure

Telekinesis
Asmoday also has telekinetic abilities, shown through direct control over Cube without physical contact.

Fine

Higher Void Manipulation & Possibility Logic Manipulation
Asmoday has the ability to weave reality and emptiness into one another.
The Temple of Space is a realm created by Asmoday, consisting of layered spaces of “nothingness.” (see in here). The deeper one goes, the closer they get to the “Palace of Existence that is neither being nor non-being.” This indicates that the structure of this space transcends the logic of existence and non-existence, existing between the two. Therefore, it qualifies as higher-level void manipulation (as the creator of such a space) and logic manipulation, as it violates the conventional system of existence and non-existence by existing in between.

Not gonna touch it rn.

Non-Existent Physiology (NEP) Type 1 – Likely Type 2 (Aspect 3)
Asmoday, as the Lord of Emptiness, does not possess a physical or mental form in the conventional sense.
Furthermore, she created a palace whose existence is “neither being nor non-being,” which serves as her domain within the Temple of Space. also explained when we want to go to the hall “neither being nor non-being", we have to pass through the corridor of nothingness . because this Space is what separates Hall of Emptiness from the hall “neither being nor non-being".
So, in short, the corridor of nothingness separates the reality in the Temple of Space from the space of the Watchers, meaning that this space truly exists between existence and non-existence. That's why they had to sacrifice their memories to become a ladder to heaven. From this explanation, we can conclude that the hall of "neither being nor non-being" has a condition that has beyond conventional nonexistence.
Based on this standard, the space can be categorized as NEP Type 2. Asmoday can fully operate within it because she is both its creator and ruler.

It's that realm/space properties and not that of a character. I'll wait for other mods to evaluate this.

Immunity to Empathic Manipulation
Asmoday lacks empathy, making her immune to any form of emotional or empathic manipulation.

Could be talking about their personality, well if no one opposing this then I am fine.

Immortality Type 5 (Shades)
All Shades possess Type 5 immortality as they transcend the life and death.
This is evidenced by the Temple of Space, which lacks the of life and death entirely. Therefore, entities within it cannot truly die in the conventional sense.

This is the first time anyone other than ronova getting this. Fine

Negation Reactive Evolution
The Temple of space forbids evolution and innovation. Any form of change or development is passively reverted back to its original state. Melanta can also return everything to its original form

No? Who's even getting this ability? Anyways that's a rule of the place, and melanta can only get restoration and not anyone else.

Perception Manipulation
Nihilita Can Change a Person Perception of Time

I suppose.

BFR
can move someone to the temple of space

Fine

Memory Manipulation.
If someone wants to leave the Temple of Space and go the mortal realm, all of their memories, everything they know, have to be erased or give it up. And that process was by meeting Asmoday in the past, but now it's Melanta, which is Asmoday's creation.

Fine ig

Creation
Asmoday is the creator of the Temple of Space. All entities such as Dex, Nihility, and Melancholy are creations of Asmoday.

Fine.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Asmoday’s Abilities (Rules of Space)
Asmoday is the creator of the Temple of Space. All entities such as Dex, Nihility, and Melancholy are creations of Asmoday, meaning that all of their abilities directly scale with and depend on Asmoday own power.

This doesn't pass our power inheritance standards. Him being the source of their energy or them spawning "from his overflow" isn't a sufficient statement to give him all their powers.

It'd be better if you found a statement saying their powers are directly born from his authority of Space (or something along those lines) then that directly ties these powers to him.

 

[MSahla]

Him being the source of their energy or them spawning "from his overflow" isn't a sufficient statement to give him all their powers.
It'd be better if you found a statement saying their powers are directly born from his authority of Space (or something along those lines) then that directly ties these powers to him.

First of all, Asmoday is “Her.”

Kay, just wait a minute, i'll log-in to my in-game first then i'll show you the statements of them being empowered by the Authority of Space.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

First of all, Asmoday is “Her.”

Kay, just wait a minute, i'll log-in to my in-game first then i'll show you the statements of them being empowered by the Authority of Space.

That still wouldn't give her their powers.

Like, what you need is to show how their abilities directly come from her, and that she can use them in some form

 

[MSahla]

That still wouldn't give her their powers.

How? They were created by her and their powers and abilities are bestowed by her, and their abilities are even similar to her. Like exactly 100% the same thing.

Morever, we cannot ignore that the Authority of Space is on her hand, because she govern space itself.

 

[Furina003]

This doesn't pass our power inheritance standards. Him being the source of their energy or them spawning "from his overflow" isn't a sufficient statement to give him all their powers.

It'd be better if you found a statement saying their powers are directly born from his authority of Space (or something along those lines) then that directly ties these powers to him.

It's clear that they using space powers.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

How? They were created by her and their powers and abilities are bestowed by her, and their abilities are even similar to her. Like exactly 100% the same thing.

Read the page I linked.

They can be similar, she can be the origin of it all, but if she doesn't actually use them or have a statement about the powers only being possible because of her (or something similar to this, not about energy, but about the abilities themselves), then yeah, she doesn't fit the standards.

 

[MSahla]

Read the page I linked.

They can be similar, she can be the origin of it all, but if she doesn't actually use them or have a statement about the powers only being possible because of her (or something similar to this, not about energy, but about the abilities themselves), then yeah, she doesn't fit the standards.

Like, a lot of these are imbued or empowered by the Authority of Space and therefore they can perform spatial manipulation.

And here in this scene, when Nihilita basically BFR-ed Zeitlind to another dimension, Nihilita explicitly says that ability belong to the god who once appeared infront of the Traveler

Which he referenced to this scene:


And the same feat performed by Melanta (also one of Asmoday's creation) here:

 

[Furina003]

It's that realm/space properties and not that of a character. I'll wait for other mods to evaluate this.

I think, the first scan speaks directly about asmoday not space, this For NEP1

Meanwhile, for NEP2, it is an explanation of those spaces, why did I give it likely? Because Asmoday is the lord of emptiness, creator and ruler of those spaces and also lives in a space that violates the system of existence and non-existence.

 

[Furina003]

Like, a lot of these are imbued or empowered by the Authority of Space and therefore they can perform spatial manipulation.

And here in this scene, when Nihilita basically BFR-ed Zeitlind to another dimension, Nihilita explicitly says that ability belong to the god who once appeared infront of the Traveler

Which he referenced to this scene:


And the same feat performed by Melanta (also one of Asmoday's creation) here:

It'd be better if you found a statement saying their powers are directly born from his authority of Space (or something along those lines) then that directly ties these powers to him.

I think this is clear, Sahl provides very clear evidence

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Like, a lot of these are imbued or empowered by the Authority of Space and therefore they can perform spatial manipulation.

There we go, that's the type of statement needed. This connects the ability directly to the Temple of Space, which they later elaborate belongs to her, as her authority over space.

The initial statements shown only referred to them being created by an overflow from her, which is vague and precisely the type of thing the page rejects. You guys should've went with these ones from the start.

 

[MSahla]

You guys should've went with these ones from the start.

Sometimes we forgot to do this because it's so a blatant thing. I'll remember it.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Sometimes we forgot to do this because it's so blatant thing. I'll remember it.

Nah nah nah. Bring absolutely everything, always, no matter how redundant it may seem, because the details matter.

Edit: by tomorrow I'll take a look at the rest of OP, but wanted to make sure of that first part.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

There we go, that's the type of statement needed.

Some stuff are pretty well known to those who plays the game or knows lore. Can't blame you for not knowing.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

I think, the first scan speaks directly about asmoday not space, this For NEP1

You do know asmoday does have physical form.

Meanwhile, for NEP2, it is an explanation of those spaces, why did I give it likely? Because Asmoday is the lord of emptiness, creator and ruler of those spaces and also lives in a space that violates the system of existence and non-existence.

Then again, I am not touching this part.

 

[Furina003]

You do know asmoday does have physical form.

How do we know that she has a physical form? Even though the previous explanation clearly states that she is formless.
Is it simply because she appears to have a form, and therefore we assume she truly possesses one?

In my opinion, it’s not that simple.
If we follow that line of thinking, then every character with Non-Existent Physiology would also be considered to have a form.
However, in fiction, something that “does not exist” still has to be visualized so that it can be understood by the audience.
This means that what is shown does not always represent its true nature.

What matters more is the lore explanation or description. And in this case, the explanation clearly states that she formless , not something that truly possesses a physical form.

Then again, I am not touching this part.

Ok, It's better to wait for input from other staff. Thank you in advance.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

How do we know that she has a physical form?

Spoiler

 

[Furina003]

Spoiler

Bro, as I said, appearing to have a form doesn't mean he has a true form, it depends on how the explanation is. Many characters have NEP but their forms are still visualized, this is for the benefit of the fictional audience. Because the game was not made for battleboarding purposes, but for fans to enjoy, how can it be enjoyed by fans, if all that is displayed is a blank screen that cannot be seen

For example

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Hatou_Manabu

 

[MSahla]

Bump.

Lephyrr where are youuu..

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Some stuff are pretty well known to those who plays the game or knows lore. Can't blame you for not knowing.

You straight up cannot blame me at all, it's why one of our rules is straight up the opening post needs to contain all proper evidence to even have an opened thread

Causality Manipulation & Reality Warping
Melanta is able to alter reality by changing the contents of a book.
When the Traveler enters the world within the book and successfully changes its ending, the reality inside the Temple of Space returns to its original state. This demonstrates control over causality as well as a narrative-based structure of reality.

This isn't entirely correct from what's explained. The content of the book is pretty much set, but needs an outside interference to properly guide the events. That shows he can't actually arbitrarily decide the contents as he likes. At absolute best, this would be limited, but honestly I wouldn't give these abilities, because there's no active control. It needs someone else to actually engage with the book for anything to happen, it's part of Immersion already.

Transmutation And Sand Manipulation
Several guardians within the Temple of Space demonstrate transmutation abilities, such as turning humans into sand and Dex can seize objects made from quicksand

Get a proper video of these, please. Otherwise are fine

Vector Manipulation
can see in here, here and here)

This isn't Vector Manipulation. The "vectorial" thing is just a visual guide showing how to slide and interact with the objects. It's telekinesis and transmutation (for the bridge that expanded out in the second clip

Higher Void Manipulation & Possibility Logic Manipulation
Asmoday has the ability to weave reality and emptiness into one another.
The Temple of Space is a realm created by Asmoday, consisting of layered spaces of “nothingness.” (see in here). The deeper one goes, the closer they get to the “Palace of Existence that is neither being nor non-being.” This indicates that the structure of this space transcends the logic of existence and non-existence, existing between the two. Therefore, it qualifies as higher-level void manipulation (as the creator of such a space) and logic manipulation, as it violates the conventional system of existence and non-existence by existing in between.

I don't see the logic manipulation. It's pretty standard Void and non existent stuff (don't feel the need to point out that "higher level" when it's so bog standard). In fact, this is exactly one of the things that our page for logic manipulation entirely disqualifies as using to grant the ability: For someone to qualify for that ability, they must specifically be able to manipulate the logical framework itself. None of this is implied here.

Non-Existent Physiology (NEP) Type 1 – Likely Type 2 (Aspect 3)
Asmoday, as the Lord of Emptiness, does not possess a physical or mental form in the conventional sense.
Furthermore, she created a palace whose existence is “neither being nor non-being,” which serves as her domain within the Temple of Space. also explained when we want to go to the hall “neither being nor non-being", we have to pass through the corridor of nothingness . because this Space is what separates Hall of Emptiness from the hall “neither being nor non-being".
So, in short, the corridor of nothingness separates the reality in the Temple of Space from the space of the Watchers, meaning that this space truly exists between existence and non-existence. That's why they had to sacrifice their memories to become a ladder to heaven. From this explanation, we can conclude that the hall of "neither being nor non-being" has a condition that has beyond conventional nonexistence.
Based on this standard, the space can be categorized as NEP Type 2. Asmoday can fully operate within it because she is both its creator and ruler.

Nothing strictly unconventional about it. It's pretty standard NEP stuff lol

Immunity to Empathic Manipulation
Asmoday lacks empathy, making her immune to any form of emotional or empathic manipulation.

Hell no. Lacking empathy does not inherently mean lack of emotions in such a way as to grant supernatural resistance. Strict disagree.

Negation Reactive Evolution
The Temple of space forbids evolution and innovation. Any form of change or development is passively reverted back to its original state. Melanta can also return everything to its original form

What that first statement is saying is they aren't allowed to change things, not that things overall can't change inside that place. Hell, if it was, then the entire book part of the quest is impossible (and the vectorial thing too), as they are only allowed to preserve and document things. The rest is not specifically negating reactive evolution, but reversing things back. This is an actual example of Causality Manipulation. (Edit: Actually, TWILIGHT is right, Restoration is the correct ability there) Although the passive stuff looks more like a gameplay thing ngl.

Perception Manipulation
Nihilita Can Change a Person Perception of Time

I don't know, I suppose, but it's iffy since the entire purpose of the place they are in is to be preserved forever and is non existent in the first place. Having a weird perception of time is normal then, and doesn't require a special ability.

The rest I didn't bring up is because I agree with it.

 

[MSahla]

Nothing strictly unconventional about it. It's pretty standard NEP stuff lol

So, is this agree with the NEP or nah?

Get a proper video of these, please. Otherwise are fine

This

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

So, is this agree with the NEP or nah?

Yeah? I'm just pointing out is not strictly unconventional.

 

[MSahla]

Snip

Can i request to you to tag some staffs? So we can clear this thread faster.

 

[Voidnether]

Yeah? I'm just pointing out is not strictly unconventional.

Wouldn't that just be NEP1 though since NEP2 is stricter with how you must be explicitly neither Existence & Nonexistence and being deeper than just conventional nonexistence

I don't really see why they'd be deeper than conventional nonexistence just because there's a neither Being & Non-Being statement which we know could lead to things that's not inherently is what's outlined on NEP2

But yeah, imo it should just be NEP1 as that's what's consistently portrayed and not deeper than conventional nonexistence

 

[MSahla]

Wouldn't that just be NEP1 though since NEP2 is stricter with how you must be explicitly neither Existence & Nonexistence and being deeper than just conventional nonexistence

I don't really see why they'd be deeper than conventional nonexistence just because there's a neither Being & Non-Being statement which we know could lead to things that's not inherently is what's outlined on NEP2

But yeah, imo it should just be NEP1 as that's what's consistently portrayed and not deeper than conventional nonexistence

It's not legit for the Type 2 tho, that's why it's just likely or possibly since she resides there with the watchers.

 

[Voidnether]

It's not legit for the Type 2 tho, that's why it's just likely or possibly since she resides there with the watchers.

It's the case where anyone that could interact with NEP1 is still able to interact with her NEP2 here ngl since she doesn't have feats of like being deeper than nonexistence, her being neither Being and Non-Being at the same time kinda just makes her Aspect 3 works in a way like Paraconsistent Physiology albeit not one

I don't have any problem though if anyone that's still able to interact NEP1 to be able to interact with her instead of requiring characters who could interact with NEP2 despite her nonexistence is just a regular one

 

[MSahla]

It's the case where anyone that could interact with NEP1 is still able to interact with her NEP2 here ngl since she doesn't have feats of like being deeper than nonexistence,

That's why it's just “possibly”, since her existence is literally beyond the Hall of Boundless Void and separated by the space called the Corridor of Nothingness.

The Hierarchy is basically like this:

1. Hall of Neither Being or Non-Being
2. Corridor of Nothingness
3. Hall of the Boundless Void.

Asmoday resides on the highest one.

 

[Furina003]

This isn't entirely correct from what's explained. The content of the book is pretty much set, but needs an outside interference to properly guide the events. That shows he can't actually arbitrarily decide the contents as he likes. At absolute best, this would be limited, but honestly I wouldn't give these abilities, because there's no active control. It needs someone else to actually engage with the book for anything to happen, it's part of Immersion already.

Ok, I won't comment further on this, but I want to ask, is reality warping also not possible? Because they actually use Dex's power to change the reality that has been adjusted.

Get a proper video of these, please. Otherwise are fine

maybe this can help (here and here)

This isn't Vector Manipulation. The "vectorial" thing is just a visual guide showing how to slide and interact with the objects. It's telekinesis and transmutation (for the bridge that expanded out in the second clip

Ok

I don't see the logic manipulation. It's pretty standard Void and non existent stuff (don't feel the need to point out that "higher level" when it's so bog standard). In fact, this is exactly one of the things that our page for logic manipulation entirely disqualifies as using to grant the ability: For someone to qualify for that ability, they must specifically be able to manipulate the logical framework itself. None of this is implied here.

Alright, seems like void manipulation is fine

Nothing strictly unconventional about it. It's pretty standard NEP stuff lol

Ok

Hell no. Lacking empathy does not inherently mean lack of emotions in such a way as to grant supernatural resistance. Strict disagree.

Ok

What that first statement is saying is they aren't allowed to change things, not that things overall can't change inside that place. Hell, if it was, then the entire book part of the quest is impossible (and the vectorial thing too), as they are only allowed to preserve and document things. The rest is not specifically negating reactive evolution, but reversing things back. This is an actual example of Causality Manipulation. (Edit: Actually, TWILIGHT is right, Restoration is the correct ability there) Although the passive stuff looks more like a gameplay thing ngl.

Ok, i will change it to restoration

I don't know, I suppose, but it's iffy since the entire purpose of the place they are in is to be preserved forever and is non existent in the first place. Having a weird perception of time is normal then, and doesn't require a special ability.

Alright

 

[Furina003]

Nothing strictly unconventional about it. It's pretty standard NEP stuff lol

oh yeah. about this nep, does this mean legit nep 2, or likely nep2?