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[0-4-3] So wild you couldn't chase it with Pure Love Train - Kinji Hakari vs Mahoraga

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prevent his regeneration, which he legit can do by just cutting his head off

and mind you, mahoraga would immediately figure out hakaris technique due to his sure hit, he will adapt in no time
so... he'd adapt to the concept of RCT?

Mahoraga's adaptation doesn't include powernull. It can't negate other people's powers, he can only prevent powers from working on itself. Even though he did adapt to Infinity and was able to bypass it, he didn't nullify the effects of Infinity and prevent Gojo from using it at all. he just ignored it. He can't ignore Hakari's regeneration in the same way

Cutting his head off will be extremely difficult since they're even in AP and Hakari has his own cursed energy reinforcement and constant regeneration. Hakari can unironically pull a Muzan and regenerate his neck while the Sword of Extermination is slicing through it, since Hakari was able to heal while lightning was traveling through and destroying his entire head, which is much faster than what Mahoraga can do.

As for Hakari's "technique", besides smacking Mahoraga with doors, his technique doesn't affect Mahoraga in any way. Mahoraga has never been shown to be immune to the concept of sure-hit effects since he's been blasted by domains before, and besides blunt force projectiles Hakari's technique doesn't really do anything else. Sure he can definitely adapt to it but the domain is harmless and doesn't do anything besides buff Hakari, which Mahoraga can't stop

if Mahoraga's adaptation granted limitless statistics amplification, then he would eventually win cuz he'd outspeed Hakari's regeneration time. If that isn't the case, then they just incon cuz neither can kill each other
 
TLDR I vote incon if Mahoraga doesn't get stat amps. I don't recall Mahoraga ever actually buffing its own stats and it's not on his profile, so I can't vote with that in mind. If Hakari moves them into the power plant, both of them just die instantly from radiation so it doesn't really matter
 
mahoraga destroys the domain via sword of ext. and thus hakari unironically dies
All it says is that it is filled with positive energy that f*s curses up, why and how does it wrecks the domain as immediately as you say?
If Hakari moves them into the power plant, both of them just die instantly from radiation so it doesn't really matter
Hakari's domain is tens of meters wide so it can move just Maho inside it
 
yk i will give you that, but mahoraga destroys the domain via sword of ext. and thus hakari unironically dies
Extended Melee Range and a rabid gambler on his ass kinda prevents Mahoraga from realistically doing this, not to mention Hakari just opens his domain again and again
 
so... he'd adapt to the concept of RCT?
yes
Mahoraga's adaptation doesn't include powernull.
yes it does?? he turned off gojo's infinity on contact so even agito and sukuna could touch him
TLDR I vote incon if Mahoraga doesn't get stat amps. I don't recall Mahoraga ever actually buffing its own stats and it's not on his profile, so I can't vote with that in mind. If Hakari moves them into the power plant, both of them just die instantly from radiation so it doesn't really matter
it does , shown and stated
All it says is that it is filled with positive energy that f*s curses up, why and how does it wrecks the domain as immediately as you say?
we saw it happen twice?
 
All it says is that it is filled with positive energy that f*s curses up, why and how does it wrecks the domain as immediately as you say?
any strong impact from the inside can shatter domains in JJK. The Sword of Extermination doesn't have anything particularly special to counter domains. Mahoraga literally just punches it with the blade on its arm and it shatters cuz he punched it
 
Extended Melee Range and a rabid gambler on his ass kinda prevents Mahoraga from realistically doing this, not to mention Hakari just opens his domain again and again
gojo couldn't fire red in time
yorozu couldn't initiate sure hit in time

hakari WILL get his domain destroyed
 
off topic but domain shattering seems to be special to mahoraga because domains are specifically stronger in the inside

but thats irrelevant rn, whats relevant is that he can destroy it
 
gojo couldn't fire red in time
yorozu couldn't initiate sure hit in time

hakari WILL get his domain destroyed
the sure-hit effect is Maho's brain forcefully learning the rules, which takes some time to adapt to, too
 
except Gojo was able to heal from all of Mahoraga's attacks, and so could Dabura. He's never been able to turn off RCT, especially not with his own positive energy.
yes it does?? he turned off gojo's infinity on contact so even agito and sukuna could touch him
Agito basically accomplished nothing the entire fight and Gojo was actively blocking its attacks with Infinity. Sukuna can touch Gojo with domain amplification while Mahoraga can touch him with adaptation, but Agito wasn't able to do basically anything the entire fight besides heal Skuna
it does , shown and stated
This information doesn't help me because I don't know where it has been shown and/or stated
 
which happens very quickly here because hakaris surehit gives raga information on a golden plate
gifted fellas had to take time to get the info through their heads, Maho as "instinctual savant" will need time to process the information and THEN start spinning the wheel to adapt to his domain and/or trying to wreck it
 
any strong impact from the inside can shatter domains in JJK. The Sword of Extermination doesn't have anything particularly special to counter domains. Mahoraga literally just punches it with the blade on its arm and it shatters cuz he punched it
he is not one-shot above Hakari AP-wise so he ain't shattering the domain just because
 
except Gojo was able to heal from all of Mahoraga's attacks, and so could Dabura. He's never been able to turn off RCT, especially not with his own positive energy.
but JP is an innate technique
Agito basically accomplished nothing the entire fight and Gojo was actively blocking its attacks with Infinity. Sukuna can touch Gojo with domain amplification while Mahoraga can touch him with adaptation, but Agito wasn't able to do basically anything the entire fight besides heal Sukuna
but he could touch gojo, doesn't matter if did no damage

so did sukuna without amplification

he used elephant water wdym amplification???

This information doesn't help me because I don't know where it has been shown and/or stated
its shown in all fights tho

and gege stated that against dabura mahoraga became the strongest
 
gifted fellas had to take time to get the info through their heads, Maho as "instinctual savant" will need time to process the information and THEN start spinning the wheel to adapt to his domain and/or trying to wreck it
adaptation starts as soon as mahoraga is exposed, "he needs to process it" no?
 
gojo couldn't fire red in time
yorozu couldn't initiate sure hit in time

hakari WILL get his domain destroyed
Gojo was caught off guard and needed the incantation in order to kill Mahoraga, which of course he didn't have time to do

Yorozu's domain shattered cuz Mahoraga killed her, not cuz he targeted her domain

Hakari's domain getting shattered means he expands it again, plus he can get Jackpot in an instant if he gets lucky, which he absolutely will due to Supernatural Luck. He can also just fight Mahoraga within the domain and prevent him from actually cutting it
 
Gojo was caught off guard and needed the incantation in order to kill Mahoraga, which of course he didn't have time to do
and mahoraga had to be summoned, he is already summoned in this scenario
Yorozu's domain shattered cuz Mahoraga killed her, not cuz he targeted her domain
i remember him shattering it but i will recheck
Hakari's domain getting shattered means he expands it again, plus he can get Jackpot in an instant if he gets lucky, which he absolutely will due to Supernatural Luck. He can also just fight Mahoraga within the domain and prevent him from actually cutting it
fair, he still gets adapted to quickly and overwhelmed by his stats
 
im at work rn, but i laid most of my arguments

stats gap
domain shattering (can happen but hakari can prevent it ig)
sped up adaptation
 
he isn't above gojo either, be fr
Hakari =< Gojo is stated by the latter, so Maho not being one-shotting Gojo definetely says he ain't one-shotting Hakari whenever however
deflected 15f dismantle and fractured his arm btw
none of those are one-shotting Hakari

adaptation starts as soon as mahoraga is exposed, "he needs to process it" no?
The profile and the scan both say Maho's adapting is a slow process starting as soon as the wheel starts to turn
It is basically stated that he'd need to process that
 
but JP is an innate technique
Jackpot is an effect of his domain that grants Hakari RCT. It doesn't affect Mahoraga in any capacity. He can maybe adapt to the information being injected into his brain but that still fulfills the domain's sure-hit conditions and therefore it just proceeds as normal. Since it doesn't actually do anything to Mahoraga besides injecting information, there's nothing for Mahoraga to actually adapt to
but he could touch gojo, doesn't matter if did no damage

so did sukuna without amplification

he used elephant water wdym amplification???
Sukuna can use amplification with his technique and domain cuz he's just that good
its shown in all fights tho

and gege stated that against dabura mahoraga became the strongest
It's really not. Mahoraga has never been shown to get stat amps in any degree.

Against Dabura he's stated to become the "strongest" cuz nothing Dabura did could accomplish anything against him anymore, not cuz he got stat amps. He's ALWAYS been able to damage Dabura and tag him, so his stats started out already good enough to math Dabura, and after the adaptation process, that fact did not change.

The Dabura fight isn't good enough evidence to show that Mahoraga actually got stat amps from his adaptation
 
The profile and the scan both say Maho's adapting is a slow process starting as soon as the wheel starts to turn
It is basically stated that he'd need to process that
Adaptation starts from initial contact, meaning he immediately gets resistances to any attack of the same technique after the first hit

That resistance gets stronger and stronger until it eventually becomes a full-blown immunity

the adaptaton process to become "immunity" is slow, but he gets "resistance" after the first initial exposure. However, if the initial exposure is strong enough to completely eradicate him, then he can't regenerate and therefore he dies
 
Hakari =< Gojo is stated by the latter, so Maho not being one-shotting Gojo definetely says he ain't one-shotting Hakari whenever however
not exactly how it works
none of those are one-shotting Hakari
hakari does not tank dismantle
Sukuna can use amplification with his technique and domain cuz he's just that good
but he cant use a technique and amplification, only domain and amplification
It's really not. Mahoraga has never been shown to get stat amps in any degree.

Against Dabura he's stated to become the "strongest" cuz nothing Dabura did could accomplish anything against him anymore, not cuz he got stat amps. He's ALWAYS been able to damage Dabura and tag him, so his stats started out already good enough to math Dabura, and after the adaptation process, that fact did not change.

The Dabura fight isn't good enough evidence to show that Mahoraga actually got stat amps from his adaptation
mahoraga went from 15f to 20f to even above that, though
and "no difference in specifications" is stats
 
but he cant use a technique and amplification, only domain and amplification
Not only is Sukuna indeed able to do this (cuz the domain has his technique in it so realistically he can just use both), but Gojo's Infinity was very on and off during the entire Sukuna fight post Domain Expansion spam cuz of fatigue. He actively blocked Agito's attacks with Infinity a few times cuz Agito doesn't have an answer to it itself
mahoraga went from 15f to 20f to even above that, though
and "no difference in specifications" is stats
Mahoraga started the fight able to hurt Dabura

It ended the fight able to hurt Dabura, but now Dabura can't hurt it

nothing changed

so no proof of change
 
Not only is Sukuna indeed able to do this (cuz the domain has his technique in it so realistically he can just use both), but Gojo's Infinity was very on and off during the entire Sukuna fight post Domain Expansion spam cuz of fatigue. He actively blocked Agito's attacks with Infinity a few times cuz Agito doesn't have an answer to it itself
you should reread, sukuna is stated to be able to seamlessly switch between techniques and amplification
and can use amplification with expansion AFTER imbuing the domain
mahoraga started the fight able to hurt Dabura
only kick him around
It ended the fight able to hurt Dabura, but now Dabura can't hurt it

nothing changed

so no proof of change
 
its currently accepted that mahoraga does gain stat amps, but its not added to profiles

so vote to whatever makes sense to u
 
even if mahoraga doesn't get stronger (he DOES) hakari can only stall an adapted mahoraga before he inevitably gets killed
 
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