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I'm not sure if anyone ever said this. So sorry if someone has, but what about: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Standard_Battle_Assumptions
Does the verse equalization apply and allow Karmic Retribution?
Well, since someone is arguing. I guess there is something to say. Also, I apologize in advance that this is very long.
"For one thing, I will never agree to scaling the other spriggans off this...never. It's just not credible when it was always stated they were far below the top two and that...
I actually doubt the series will do anything this destructive again. Irene's feat might not be proven at all because the creator probably won't show something that destroys a country in one shot again.
As for your reasons, anything is up for debate at this point. Personally, a bunch of...
Actually possible prep time, we don't know for sure if she prepped for Universe One. For all we know, she was just excited to get the war moving along. Zeref even stated that she is trying to finish the war as fast as possible. It's because it's not explicitly stated to be prep that there is...
Are you sure about that? What does this mean then: "Also, kindly remember that Attack Potency is the measure of Destructive Capacity of an attack, and as such, is measured via its energy damage equivalent. Hence, characters that destroy mountains or islands are not automatically mountain or...
I'm still not certain if it was even prep to begin with. Also, several chapter =/= long prep. Besides, when Zeref asked what Irene was up to, she was already using a spell. That's probably what Zeref sensed.
http://www.**********.com/fairy-tail/486/13 (Irene did something to the ground)...
I still don't see the "prep" we are talking about. I don't think a few minutes or so is something to consider prep. For all we know, it might not even need prep.
4 chapters is not really a measurement, for all we know, it could have been a few minutes. Gajeel and Bradman's battle didn't seem that long anyways, and we saw her talking to Acno right after that. So it can't be that long.
I don't think the attack had to damage anyone. If it was an attack on them, a Country Level attack would have beaten almost everyone except Acnologia and a few other people. Irene didn't shrink the country though, that's the word Zeref used to describe what Irene did.
As for scaling, that has...
(Note: My opinion) From Irene's new feat, the rest of the Spriggan 12 should be scaled alongside August, Acnologia, BDKM Natsu, and Zeref.
It should be certain that atleast those 5 get upgraded. The Spriggan 12 and anyone they've clashed with are up for debate.
"Do we really know that Zeref is the same tier as these other guys when it comes to attack-potency and durability?"
He has to be, since he has to be able to put down August or Irene if they try to move on their own accord and disobey him or move out of line. Zeref admits it's hard to control...
Well, I doubt it matters. Igneel didn't have much of his strength against Acnologia (supposedly). They're on the same tier (High 6-B) now anyways. Not really much need for a debate. I mean we could argue whether FDKM Natsu would even match Weakened Igneel, but no point.
So, if Fiore is a very...