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Recent content by SaiyanSage

  1. SaiyanSage

    Yet Another Star Wars Revision Thread (Canon)

    I agree, in the case of Anakin he's not a normal Padawan by any means. Even in his brief duel with Dooku in Episode II he performed better than his master. However I would consider asking since the Jedi Order in the Clone Wars have 10,000 members and have similar training regiments and...
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    Star Wars Revision: Godly Sith Lords (Legends)

    Fair enough on Bane, but why shouldn't Plagueis scale to Sidious if Vaylin is gonna be scaled to Vitiate? Granted Vaylin is the daughter of Vitiate/Valkorian... but given Plagueis taught Palpatine almost everything he knew, shouldn't it be reasonable that Plagueis should be 4-B? Even in the...
  3. SaiyanSage

    Star Wars Revision: Godly Sith Lords (Legends)

    From my understanding, it's mainly ROTS that makes Anakin stronger than Obi-Wan but also during the duel on Mustafar (which I believe it's referenced on Obi-Wan Kenobi's profile) that Anakin was emotionally hindered which helped Kenobi in his duel (as well as knowing Skywalker's fighting style...
  4. SaiyanSage

    Star Wars Revision: Godly Sith Lords (Legends)

    I understand the concerns, it's just only a few select people that should get the 4-B tier. IMO: Solar System: Yoda Sidious Plagueis Vitiate Windu (aamped via Vaapad) Hero of Tython Revan Arcann Star tier: Dooku Windu (Normally) Anakin Skywalker (by the time of ROTS/Darth Vader...
  5. SaiyanSage

    Star Wars Revision: Godly Sith Lords (Legends)

    Which is fair, since all Sith Apprentices under the Rule of Two are meant to become masters eventually otherwise all those years of training would be useless, and the Rule of Two would've died right after Zannah's demise. In the case of Sidious, he only used Maul, Ventress, Dooku, and Savage...
  6. SaiyanSage

    Star Wars Revision: Godly Sith Lords (Legends)

    Well, Sidious is the Dark side incarnate and an Avatar of the Dark side lol. I'd be surprised if any apprentice could actually beat him... unless that apprentice was a Skywalker 0-0.
  7. SaiyanSage

    Star Wars Revision: Godly Sith Lords (Legends)

    Dooku was only a Sith apprentice for 10 years, the rest of his life he was a Jedi. Compared to Sidious' thirty plus years when Plagueis found Palpatine on Naboo when the latter was 17. Vader was a broken man, stated by Sidious himself. Vader's psychological problems hindered his ascension plus...
  8. SaiyanSage

    Star Wars Revision: Godly Sith Lords (Legends)

    True, but Maul served more as an assassin than an actual Sith apprentice.
  9. SaiyanSage

    Star Wars Revision: Godly Sith Lords (Legends)

    Plagueis is more consistent than Ragnos is imo. At least Plagueis has the foundation and scaling of the Rule of Two to refer back too, plus he was considered the greatest and most powerful Sith Lord before he encountered Palpatine (and we know where that goes lol). For Ragnos, I'm more than...
  10. SaiyanSage

    Star Wars Revision: Godly Sith Lords (Legends)

    There's no reason to suggest that Plagueis isn't 4-B, to do so would contradict the entire purpose of the entire Rule of Two in the first place. More than likely Ragnos won't be offically 4-B, he'll likely be 'Star level, possibly 4-B' much in the same way as Tenebrous.
  11. SaiyanSage

    Star Wars Revision: Godly Sith Lords (Legends)

    Then why were you questioning about Plageuis being 4-B? The point for Vitiate was the parallel between him and Sidious' uprising from Sith Masters who saw a powerful connection to the Dark side. A 13 year old Pureblood Sith being recognized for his immense power by the most powerful Sith Lord...
  12. SaiyanSage

    Star Wars Revision: Godly Sith Lords (Legends)

    Plagueis and Sidious are a part of the Rule of Two scaling, which means that the Apprentice would have to scale to the Master. Meaning that if Sidious is at the 4-B tier, and the culmination of Bane's Order, then logically Plagueis should scale to 4-B as well since he taught Palpatine almost...
  13. SaiyanSage

    Star Wars Revision: Godly Sith Lords (Legends)

    Plagueis collapsed an entire cave ceiling on top of Tenebrous when they trying to escape a previous explosion when mining for Cortosis before he killed him by snapping his neck. I believe it's in the first pages of chapter of the Darth Plagueis novel.
  14. SaiyanSage

    Star Wars Revision: Godly Sith Lords (Legends)

    Plagueis for sure gets the Solar System tier. Tenebrous should be 'likely 4-B'.
  15. SaiyanSage

    Star Wars Revision: Godly Sith Lords (Legends)

    Honestly that speaks more the Emperor's power than it does Murr's, since Vader didn't know the full capacity of Sidious' strength in comparison to Murr's talisman. Vader assumed it would be enough, though the likely case would be that it would backfire on Vader and force Sidious to his...
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