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Recent content by Shazam121

  1. Shazam121

    The Elder Scrolls: Metaphysical Studies and Discussions - Lesson One

    But he also refers to Ayem and Sil as ruling kings. And here it can also apply to the Hortator.
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    The Elder Scrolls: Metaphysical Studies and Discussions - Lesson One

    Really? Which part?
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    The Elder Scrolls: Metaphysical Studies and Discussions - Lesson One

    "Sermon 11 of Vivec" Yeah, I'd like it to be more concrete than that. Cus people have different interpretations of the sermons. This guy doesn't seem to think it has much to do with chim at all: https://www.newwhirlingschool.com/lessons/11.php
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    The Elder Scrolls: Metaphysical Studies and Discussions - Lesson One

    I meant how it happened. Mortals think Boeithiah literally excreted Malacath. Malacath tells us it wasn't a literal event.
  5. Shazam121

    The Elder Scrolls: Metaphysical Studies and Discussions - Lesson One

    ""You did. You literally said you ignore KINMUNE because it has nonsesical or invented words that MK only wrote to look cool. Although KINMUNE is a semi-troll text to I can see why partly ignore it" I think I said this in the context of it being a poor text to scale from for battleboards...
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    The Elder Scrolls: Metaphysical Studies and Discussions - Lesson One

    The lore writers of ESO using parts of his work is not the same thing as him being canon in general to me. Though I said months ago that C0DA has legitimacy now (even if I still haven't read it).
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    The Elder Scrolls: Metaphysical Studies and Discussions - Lesson One

    We have different standards for what is canon. It would take an edict from Bethesda for me to consider everything MK says as canon (though when just discussing lore I avoid talking about canon these days). So far we only have Pete Hine's saying "it depends" when asked if OOG texts are canon.
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    The Elder Scrolls: Metaphysical Studies and Discussions - Lesson One

    In the time of Arena and when fans were writing parts of the lore I'd say this statement would definitely be true. But now that TES is a huge franchise I can't see the open-ended nature of its lore ever returning. Zenimax owns TES, not the fans. And I think I like that.
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    The Elder Scrolls: Metaphysical Studies and Discussions - Lesson One

    That's a good point and one I worry about from time to time. It's why I try not to take part in topics that are actually important; a few weeks ago I gave an opinion on some political issue and almost instantly regretted it, I felt awful for ages afterwards worried about biases and a lack of...
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    The Elder Scrolls: Metaphysical Studies and Discussions - Lesson One

    I don't typically. Most of my interest in the lore of TES is reserved to simple topics. I was a fan of the games long before I was a fan of the lore and I'd imagine I'll be a fan of the games long after I lose interest in the lore. And I wouldn't say anything I've talked about here is...
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    The Elder Scrolls: Metaphysical Studies and Discussions - Lesson One

    I've not made a secret of this. Though my opinion on Vivec has changed a little. Edit: Actually I think my interest in the Daedra as declined also. I blame ESO's dialogue and voice acting. We all have our biases. They are beyond my control.
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    The Elder Scrolls: Metaphysical Studies and Discussions - Lesson One

    The text doesn't say this. It only says this: Vivec stuffs Muatra into Azura's mouth. Azura chokes!
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    The Elder Scrolls: Metaphysical Studies and Discussions - Lesson One

    Well, isn't this sort of stuff what this thread is for? :D
  14. Shazam121

    The Elder Scrolls: Metaphysical Studies and Discussions - Lesson One

    "No they don't. The description is done in a way to confound and divert your attention. If you are easily swayed you will fall into a shallow interpretation and miss the deeper meaning. It is how we got "Lol Muatra is Vivec's penis" in the first place. People choosing not to look any further...
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    The Elder Scrolls: Metaphysical Studies and Discussions - Lesson One

    "You clearly still think it's just a metaphor for his dick with no further meaning" Oh no. I'm sure it is supposed to have further meaning, it's just that I'm not interested in it. And in the context of the Trial, some meanings come across as more pronounced than others. "When I read about...
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