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Hellscream, nobody here is making any of the claims you suppose.
You are ascribing traits and ideals to arguments nobody is making. We are simply stating "We can observably see the sky is blue, so we have it rated as Blue". Your response is to question "So you are stating the sky can never be...
This thread definitely needs closed, it's a classic fallacious argument type called Hasty Generalization. To wit, you form a conclusion from incomplete data and justify it with extraneous reasoning.
"Yhwach SHOULD be able to resist it because why else wouldn't it be used unless he resists it...
But it's still a flat 10x boost, you haven't negated that core concept. And I did indeed address the thought that dials require input and set up, which is why Nami's comment probably was not solely about raw attack potency, since things not dealing with strength or striking were included on that...
So you actually do agree with my point, that she was including Reject Dials, which multiply an attack tenfold, into this? Since it was also a ranked technique?
Because review my earlier point then, because that flat out makes the entire statement absolute bunk, there is no way stabbing someone...
But they're listed in the poll, the one Nami explicitly is referencing. It's in the technique section, rank 27th. Shigan was ranked 25th in that very poll, and Nami explicitly says the 25th fan-ranked one was actually the strongest.
Just reading the scan of Nami claiming that, I sort of think context is key on the Shigan claim: Reject Dials aren't listed as the strongest technique available, when we know for a fact they absorb a hit and redirect ten times the force that was absorbed: are we going to sit here and claim...
Yeah this is insanely clear that the feat in question exhibits explicit spring properties, considering that is Luffy's entire powerset. KT seems to have simply made a slight error in their recollection of the site rule on this sort of feat, so it's not a huge deal, but that entire discussion...
So if you lift a human being holding a 10kg mass, and that human being is 100kg, are you going to sit there and tell me that you yourself are not lifting 110kg of mass? That somehow, the 10kg simply evaporates from the system by basis of gravity no longer working because that mass is being held...
So if I'm in an airplane holding ten tons of lead by a rope, do you believe the airplane is not responsible for keeping that weight mid-air? I'm carrying the weight, yes, but how is it staying mid-air? The answer: the plane is holding it. Same thing here
Regardless yeah not being hostile but I...
Honestly, it's not hostility, it's my being flabbergasted at the inability to grasp core concepts that keep the site tenable. It's just as Kuroi said, and as you yourself later said with how science do just be like that. And it is frustrating to have people try to disagree with the raw...
It is astounding to have to go through this thread and see people reiterate, over two dozen times, that putting a weight into your fist and swinging with it somehow DOES NOT increase the force you're hitting with, and that your natural exertion is equivalent regardless because "well you can pick...
Considering I engaged it, have kept discussion to the core of the OP, you're quite off base. What's absurdly evident is blind FRA at wall of text.
I am aware of your conjecture, thanks for the tl;dr of what I read though. Doesn't engage the Usopp scaling and momentum or literally most of the...
And just to further this point: any movement I make on the rope? Has the jet's momentum already factored into that motion. Same as Luffy. Hopefully you get it now