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Hagoromo Ōtsutsuki vs Lucius Zogratis

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Lucius > Julius's Time Magic which could work on beings resistant to every spell in existence. Just having a possible "Time Stop resistance isn't enough"

And I doubt his soul manip resistance would matter against Lucius, who doesn't damage or pull out the soul in any way but instead transforms the soul and puts an order on it.

There's also the fact that his power works on Devils and Devil Hosts, who have a resistance as well but I'll leave that aside
 
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And I doubt his soul manip resistance would matter against Lucius, who doesn't damage or pull out the soul in any way but instead transforms the soul and puts an order on it.
He still needs physical contact. And Lucius doesn't have soul manip resistance listed, meaning he's vulnerable to Hagoromo's ninja tools.

Btw, do Hagoromo's abilities also include the 9 bijus part from profile or only ten-tails ?
 
He still needs physical contact. And Lucius doesn't have soul manip resistance listed, meaning he's vulnerable to Hagoromo's ninja tools.
He does have it listed, you missed it.

Also physical contact isn't a problem when he can teleport and has dozens of clones that can do the same thing.
 
Well, Chakra spirit really wouldn't change anything since he can't deal with Time Manip
He couldn’t be aged pure chakra, or BFR’d with his Space-Time Ninjutsu.

I also haven’t seen any arguments that address how Lucius can get past Creation of all Things.

I also don’t really agree with the argument used to disregard Otsutsuki Time Stop resistance but I digress
 
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What's the argument?
I think that he refers to "Time Stop Resistance" being listed as a possibility since other Otsutsuki like Momoshiki and Kawaki could move in frozen time, but Toneri coudn't.
Well, Chakra spirit really wouldn't change anything since he can't deal with Time Manip
It would change a lot because he can't be affected by aging attack and soul magic. It really depends on the possible Time Stop resistance

Btw, Lucius's page doesn't list his intelligence rating. Is it Gifted or Genius ? (just curious)
 
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