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Endeavor (MHA) vs Cracker (One Piece)

TheRustyOne

TheRustyOne

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All right, let's see how this turns out.

Cracker starts out as himself.

Endeavor's Stats: AP/Dura is 557.41 Gigatons of TNT. Speed is 79.57% SoL.

Cracker's Stats: AP/Dura is 301.49 Gigatons, 150.74 Gigatons with his 3 Arm Biscuit Soldiers. Speed scales above 59.01% SoL.

Starting Distance is 50 meters.

Location: Central Park, New York. The city is abandoned.

Who wins?

Endeavor: (0)

Cracker: (0)

Inconclusive: (0)

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Endeavor scaling to 557 Gigatons means that he can take advantage of Cracker’s biggest weakness: his over sensitive nature to pain.

Endeavors attacks are all going to cut through or burn Cracker, and for this reason, Cracker will have to keep dodging with observation Haki or else he’ll die for that reason. Armament Haki (according to the page) only blocks attacks equal to or below their durability, and Endeavor is obviously above that

Cracker’s soldiers are essentially useless, easily decapitatable by Endeavor with a single hell spider tendril due to the massive (over 3x) gap, and we’ve seen hell spider cleaving through things to the point people like AFO Tomura and Hood dodge instead of tank because it’ll likely cleave through them.

Endeavor is also faster, so it’s likely that he can land these attacks much easier.

Cracker does have higher LS, but I doubt it’ll help with all the other disadvantages

Cracker (to my knowledge) doesn’t fight without his blade, and his blade is only island level in durability. Trying to block any attack from Endeavor means his main weapon is down and he can’t fight fist to fist.

If Endeavor loses a limb, he can simply make a limb of fire that I’m fairly certain can still beat the shit out of Cracker.

Without any heat resistance, Endeavor can burn away Cracker if things do ever get to bad by simply just shooting him with fire and fast. Endeavor’s fire was compared to the heat of the lasers from the U.S Military Lasers. Given these are futuristic we can compare it to the heat of our current lasers, which can get up to nearly 2 million C.

However I doubt it’ll come to that, because Endeavor can out maneuver AFO in CQC with his over >140 years of experience at that point (AFO had ATLEAST 100 years upon All Might getting OFA, and he had it for 40 years). So he can simply just beat Cracker in melee combat.

I can see Cracker fighting well, until his sword breaks, upon which he’ll try and escape but Endeavor can simply get to him and beat him up more. Add onto that the fact that any injury is going to be much worse for Cracker, an I do not see him winning this
 
Cracker scales a good deal above 59.01% value, as that was the speed Gear 2nd Luffy moved at before the Time-Skip.

Endeavor's damage with heat is independent of his opponent's durability to an extent. At this level heat resistance is more important, which Cracker has thanks to Haki. Also, I don't see anything on his profile that claims his sword is Island level when he cut into Gear 4 Luffy. And 2 million degrees is unsourced and highly doubted.

He should be in the 5000 degree range via scaling above Bakugo's explosions. We have no higher number of the profiles as of yet.

AFO has no CQC experience or showings in universe, no one besides All Might ever engaged him up close for obvious reasons. And All Might isn't exactly known for being super skilled, mostly relying on his overwhelming might. That's also ignoring the fact AFO's body was being slowed down by his Quirk's Rebelling against him.

Ignoring any of their abilities, Cracker should be superior in pure CQC. However, Endeavor does not engage in standard CQC. (He's never throw a normal punch)

His enhanced strikes with his Quirk gives him good AOE that makes it difficult to dodge if someone is closed. While Cracker's soldiers are indeed inferior, he can keep making them without any limit and Endeavor does need to take the time to deal with them. As they can cut him and cause serious injuries.

And grouping them together increases their defense, as Endeavor's attack would have to break through multiple of them.
 
I think with Crackers infinte biscuit soldiers and being always hidden, will wear endeavor down and will get overpowered in terms of lifting strength and many cutting attacks from just one of them, which overpowered luffy's Large Island Level attack, the soldiers are also resistance to heat as they are infused with haki

Cracker can just stay back and avoid him especially even with help from his observation haki and summon infinite biscuits and overwhelm him with numbers, size and lifting strength which will also just keep regenerating until he gets overpowered and crushed or by overwhelming his stamina
 
TheRustyOne said:
Cracker scales a good deal above 59.01% value, as that was the speed Gear 2nd Luffy moved at before the Time-Skip.

Endeavor's damage with heat is independent of his opponent's durability to an extent. At this level heat resistance is more important, which Cracker has thanks to Haki. Also, I don't see anything on his profile that claims his sword is Island level when he cut into Gear 4 Luffy
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https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Meito#Pretzel (do not ask I don’t know either)
TheRustyOne said:
He should be in the 5000 degree range via scaling above Bakugo's explosions. We have no higher number of the profiles as of yet.

AFO has no CQC experience or showings in universe, no one besides All Might ever engaged him up close for obvious reasons. And All Might isn't exactly known for being super skilled, mostly relying on his overwhelming might. That's also ignoring the fact AFO's body was being slowed down by his Quirk's Rebelling against him.
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Then why does he have it as his explanation on his profile
TheRustyOne said:
Ignoring any of their abilities, Cracker should be superior in pure CQC. However, Endeavor does not engage in standard CQC. (He's never throw a normal punch)
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Well I guess zoning is the entire name of the game here.
TheRustyOne said:
His enhanced strikes with his Quirk gives him good AOE that makes it difficult to dodge if someone is closed. While Cracker's soldiers are indeed inferior, he can keep making them without any limit and Endeavor does need to take the time to deal with them. As they can cut him and cause serious injuries.

And grouping them together increases their defense, as Endeavor's attack would have to break through multiple of them.
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Over confidence on his own weaknesses section may cause this, and hell spider once again can likely cut through them like butter. But with what MonkeyofLife said below
MonkeyOfLife said:
I think with Crackers infinte biscuit soldiers and being always hidden, will wear endeavor down and will get overpowered in terms of lifting strength and many cutting attacks from just one of them, the soldiers are also resistance to heat as they are infused with haki

Cracker can just stay back and avoid him especially even with help from his observation haki and summon infinite biscuits and overwhelm him with numbers, size and lifting strength which will also just keep regenerating until he gets overpowered and crushed or overwhelming his stamina
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what’s the win con?

he can simply make an infinite amount of soldiers, his fight with Luffy from what I’m reading on the wiki was only lost thanks to the rubber abilities sucking him in and revealing his own weakness but endeavor quite obviously doesn’t have those luxuries.

And if Charlotte does get burned and realizes that he can die here (I’m not going to claim he’s stupid enough to think he’s invincible) then he’ll do exactly what you said he will and simply just leave and manipulate them from afar.

I’m assuming Endeavor’s only hope is range, but what’s the point in that if he can’t even get past an infinite amount of soldiers
 
Note: That Endeavor can indeed fly, which puts him out of range of Cracker's attacks. Tens of Meters vs Hundreds of Meters.

Cracker starts as himself so Endeavor will keep his eye on him. Since it's obvious he's the one creating the soldiers.

Do we have a heat temp level for people with Cracker's level of Haki?
 
TheRustyOne said:
Note: That Endeavor can indeed fly, which puts him out of range of Cracker's attacks. Tens of Meters vs Hundreds of Meters.

Cracker starts as himself so Endeavor will keep his eye on him. Since it's obvious he's the one creating the soldiers.

Do we have a heat temp level for people with Cracker's level of Haki?
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Idk
Says that “Sanji says it helps him withstand the heat” but I don’t know what that is
Why is one piece scaling so confusing
 
Mapl3Sy4up said:
what’s the win con?
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Either getting crushed by many of them or making him lose stamina... Not sure if that's the answer to your question 🤔

Mapl3Sy4up said:
he can simply make an infinite amount of soldiers, his fight with Luffy from what I’m reading on the wiki was only lost thanks to the rubber abilities sucking him in and revealing his own weakness but endeavor quite obviously doesn’t have those luxuries.
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Yee... Luffy overpowered him via gear 4th tankman's haki and power by first eating all of the hard biscuits with the help of Nami use water to weaken/soften them to then use back all the energy of luffy's hours of eating against him
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
Either getting crushed by many of them or making him lose stamina... Not sure if that's the answer to your question 🤔


Yee... Luffy overpowered him via gear 4th tankman's haki and power by first eating all of the hard biscuits with the help of Nami use water to weaken/soften them to then use back all the energy of luffy's hours of eating against him
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Enji’s win con

It’s Finite vs Infinite, and from what you’re saying he can just sit back and fight forever by puppeteering the clones
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
Uhh, by either using his range and flight attacking from above (not to sure how he fights), tho at the end he'll still lose his stamina because of the infinite soldiers
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So in the end he can never win because he doesn’t have the stamina to keep up with infinite soldiers is what you’re saying?

And his fire won’t even work because his heat is lower than lightning heat
 
TheRustyOne said:
Endeavor fights while flying, he'll likely just go over them. Since Cracker is on the ground, Endeavor can also send attacks underground that'll rise up beneath his opponent, reaching them even if they jump high into the air. Meaning it can bypass any of Cracker's soldiers to hit him even if he jumps up.

And he can entrap the area with his Hell Curtain. He did start his fight against Tomura with that. Making it hard for him to escape.
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I don’t believe he hides under them, he hides in them

Cracker’s whole ability just means he can armament himself heat res and then make an infinite barrier of biscuits that will forever regenerate

I don’t see how Endeavor can possibly win against that in any form, especially since his heat is lower then lightning so there isn’t even any passive heat chip damage
 
His attacks are still 557 Gigatons you know, which is stronger than Gear 4th Luffy's attacks. The heat aspect is just a bonus.

While his soldiers are 150.74 Gigatons, the attack would break through any soldier he's hiding in.

Of course attacks will get weaker after breaking through something, which is why stacking multiple would be a good shield.

Assuming he does, since Cracker is starting revealed and with no soldiers at first. I don't remember Cracker hiding back into one of his soldiers after being discovered by Luffy. He hid behind them, but not inside of one if I recall. Though I could be wrong here.
 
Mapl3Sy4up said:
I don’t believe he hides under them, he hides in them
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yee
TheRustyOne said:
Assuming he does, since Cracker is starting revealed and with no soldiers at first. I don't remember Cracker hiding back into one of his soldiers after being discovered by Luffy. He hid behind them, but not inside of one if I recall. Though I could be wrong here.
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nah he's usually always inside of one, hiding
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He has no reason to reveal himself... Luffy has haki so there's no point in trying to hide in one
 
He starts revealed, as explained. They do have line of sight.

Was that the reason it was stated he didn't hide inside of one again or are you assuming that?
 
TheRustyOne said:
His attacks are still 557 Gigatons you know, which is stronger than Gear 4th Luffy's attacks. The heat aspect is just a bonus.

While his soldiers are 150.74 Gigatons, the attack would break through any soldier he's hiding in.

Of course attacks will get weaker after breaking through something, which is why stacking multiple would be a good shield.

Assuming he does, since Cracker is starting revealed and with no soldiers at first. I don't remember Cracker hiding back into one of his soldiers after being discovered by Luffy. He hid behind them, but not inside of one if I recall. Though I could be wrong here.
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cracker scaling to double his soldiers is so weird to me

Anyways, given he wears one as Armor and it’s so “elusive” that even the world government doesn’t know his real identity and it’s just one of his soldiers, I feel like he’s hiding inside of one.

But if that’s the case, then Endeavors flashfire attacks should tear through Cracker’s forces and get to him quite easily. Flight is always a better maneuvering tool then no flight. And he can always just fly out of range as a way of recovering his stamina given Cracker is slower and has far less range.

Hell spider is probably his best friend here, creating dozens of those 557 gigaton spears to wipe out however many soldiers he creates and slash down Cracker before anything to crazy happens, especially since looking over the profile again, creating those soldiers takes time and he has to CLAP to create the biscuits in the first place, meaning if he tries to create them Endeavor can take advantage of that and burn them away.

I suppose that’s the main deciding factor, Endeavor isn’t the type to wait and let Cracker create more troops, he’ll keep attacking until Cracker is down, ask questions at a later date. And cracker has to clap and take a few seconds to create more troops if the gifs on his profile are anything to go by

Endeavors AP is almost double Cracker’s durability so I see him wearing down Cracker quite quickly when he starts beating away at the General once he’s through all those protective layers
 
TheRustyOne said:
Was that the reason it was stated he didn't hide inside of one again or are you assuming that?
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I am assuming that... But a totally valid assumption. There was only one cracker soldier, luffy has always been able to read multiple fakes and now especially with haki, there's no point hiding after been revealed, his gear 4 attack were able to complety go through the armor
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Wouldn't make sense to stay/hide in one especially when he can be sensed
 
Mapl3Sy4up said:
I suppose that’s the main deciding factor, Endeavor isn’t the type to wait and let Cracker create more troops, he’ll keep attacking until Cracker is down, ask questions at a later date. And cracker has to clap and take a few seconds to create more troops if the gifs on his profile are anything to go by

Endeavors AP is almost double Cracker’s durability so I see him wearing down Cracker quite quickly when he starts beating away at the General once he’s through all those protective layers
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yee but that's assuming he can find him or sense him... Cracker likes to hide behind things... And the location is in a city, I doubt he'll be able to find him while cracker is always able to see and sense him
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
yee but that's assuming he can find him or sense him... Cracker likes to hide behind things... And the location is in a city, I doubt he'll be able to find him while cracker is always able to see and sense him
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SBA line of sight, can just follow him and cut down anything he tries to hide behind, piercing damage suggests Cracker’s getting hit to
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
I am assuming that... But a totally valid assumption.
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True, but still not factual. It could also just not be in character for him, it's not for certain.

Considering he never tries or even mentions something like that, I'm more incline to believe he just doesn't do it due to being overconfident.

The location is Central Park, guess I should make it clear they cannot leave the area.

Endeavor's Hell Spider is a piercing style attack that goes straight through 557 Gigatons characters.

Ignoring the heat/burning, that's still a pinpoint blast that should pierce Cracker's defenses. If he doesn't have enough soldiers protecting him, it could even hurt him.
 
crackers soldiers should still scale to gear 4... I remember there was a discussion of revising crackers, speed and attack potency 🤔
 
Mapl3Sy4up said:
Haki on the wiki direct states to block attacks equal to or lower then the users durability, And I’m not too certain, but I THINK 557 is bigger then 301.49
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Nah it blocks comparable or higher than the durability of the user... That's why it's a stat amp
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
crackers soldiers should still scale to gear 4... I remember there was a discussion of revising crackers, speed and attack potency 🤔
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I'm going by this thread for their values. Gear 4 ripped through a 3 armed soldier and it took multiple of them to block his attacks.

If they all scale to 301.49 Gigatons, I'll need to switch out Endeavor for someone else. Also, pretty sure their rating comes from using Haki as defense already.
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
Nah it blocks comparable or higher than the durability of the user... That's why it's a stat amp
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From the vs battle wiki Haki page “Users of Armament Haki are capable of fending off attacks from sharp weapons comparable to their durability”
It’s a stat amp but it won’t simply make a piercing attack that’s higher level then them not piercing
 
TheRustyOne said:
I'm talking about him hiding inside of one of them and never showing his face period. Despite already being seen by Endeavor at the start.

He will most certainty hide behind them, I don't disagree with that in the slightest.
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but you used that as an argument to say hes just overconfident... Which is just not true

In the new world where they are located... It is filled with people with haki, and hiding inside of one when luffy can punch through it wouldn't make any sense... That's why he started to create multiple solders to block his attack instead
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
but you used that as an argument to say hes just overconfident... Which is just not true
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Cracker is confident in his abilities, but his confidence and violent nature can lead to arrogance, as he had underestimated Luffy, leading him to take an unnecessary blow due to carelessness, losing one of his Biscuit soldiers.

Written on his profile. Also, there's no correlation to your sentence here. You can hide behind something and still be overconfident, so I don't get your point.

There are levels of arrogance.
 
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