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Powerscaling Copypasta Emporium

Okay i agree to this But shouldn't you first provide proof of empirical non-anecdotal tautological epistemological ontological pontification. Your negation to me saying it’s not contextually saying that is an ethically bankrupt deception of noumenological proportion categorically imperitively inept at substantiating your statements. You would need to prove that the connotation is circumstantial to the context so it would be general in entailment, as well as being capable to necessitate various interpretations that possess coherency in the narrative of the position you have presented. This is contingent upon the proposition of an antithesis’ prominence in negation with agnosticism that is reasoned by skepticism, or an equal interpretation substantiated with inductive reasoning, both inevitable in equalizing or defeating You would need to prove this skepticism with empirical non-anecdotal tautological epistemological ontological pontification.
No proof that this comes with objective consequent uniformed non subjective non anecdotal affirmations with coherentism and logical rational cognitive intellectual epistemic epistemelogical tautological ontological analytical theological non preposterous validated dialectics with well founded evidence and cogent persuasive rhetrocial dialectics with valid anaologies and empirical propositions followed with a syllogistical conclusion and inference from valid dialectics in a conference and exhibited from reasonings that are non congeneric to eristic and casiustic dialectics that are derived from contextualised testaments and retconned as non vague terms and non misinterpreted and conceptualised correctly and voraciously i covet you to contribute and divulge and initiate further more proofs referring to a particular specific divulged coherent testament contextualised with well uniformed addressings and valid thesis's and antithesis's followed syllogistically with a articulated synthesis articulating the negations of the antithesis to the thesis aka proposition and the rise to a reaction which i already contextualized and clarified and illustrated the elements of it and the purpose of a thesis and a antithesis and a synthesis, you weren't exchanging dialectics, and to have a syllogistical conclusion, you'll have to exchange dialectics, with valid connotations saving and backing and substantiating your dialectics up, which you didn't hence you concede hence what you avowed, along with non empirical connotations and non valid implications and entailments and presuppositions gradually invalidated exploiting Hegelian dialectics and your negations are subjective and subjective terms are derived from illogical affirmations and analogies and your context is incorrect with non rhetoric affirmations which are utilised to unravel which conceive inept hegels dialectics
When people try to make fun of me, but I lowkey don't care cause I'm gay.
 
You are avoiding the A=h^b b/2 [TxAxS] = H^e(D)
Dialecticism
Which is three parted in asserting the value/axiological view of euclids theorem
When people try to make fun of me, but I don't care cause I lowkey have no enemies.
 
When people try to make fun of me, but I don't care cause I lowkey have no enemies.
Z3C

Σ¹/nz = 0
n=z
Va E N, z ≠ −2a
Re(z) = you getting rizz which the odds of that are 1 and 1.5 but just pretend 1.5 is even an odd number which your dumbass didn't even know it wasn't. But now substantiate how
Y →൮ = lim n
n→∞ (Σ 1/k — in ñ)
k=1
Objectively and subjectively in truth proves you were raised by a father but rather now in opposite truths you were raised by a deformed turtle but now the turtle wants you to solve your final exam question via
3n + ∛n2 + 8⇒×3n ≡ ∞⁹⁹⁹≈ℰ″ε°>√n2 + 8 = x ≈ ∞ε⇔ ≡ 99837⁹⁹_⁷⅞²⅓7837⁸
∈⇔67 + 92793⁹ γ≈55¬½ + ‰ ⊥≡ the 100%‰
≝ ℳ ⊗ ℝ =Ξ8936⁹°⁹
And how you solving this higher plane of existence problem helps you getting a girlfriend + don't forget Fermat’s Last Theorem: The problem is to finding solutions to the equation xn+yn=zn��+��=�� where n� is some positive number. The case for n=1,2�=1,2 has trivially many solutions but Fermat conjectured that there exits no solution for n>2�>2,for instance one cannot find a solution to the equation x3+y3=z3�3+�3=�3 no matter how far you look for the triple (x,y,z).
Which now goes into ζ(s)=∑n=1∞1ns -> s=1/2 as it’s real part. The Conjecture then is that all non-trivial zeros lie on the critical strip. And now into
1782¹² + 1841¹² + 1922¹² P ≈ N X⁵
4Rur –– 1¹/2⁸ R gur + A gur = 8‡±Rg/tC⁴-Tur
 
Z3C

Σ¹/nz = 0
n=z
Va E N, z ≠ −2a
Re(z) = you getting rizz which the odds of that are 1 and 1.5 but just pretend 1.5 is even an odd number which your dumbass didn't even know it wasn't. But now substantiate how
Y →൮ = lim n
n→∞ (Σ 1/k — in ñ)
k=1
Objectively and subjectively in truth proves you were raised by a father but rather now in opposite truths you were raised by a deformed turtle but now the turtle wants you to solve your final exam question via
3n + ∛n2 + 8⇒×3n ≡ ∞⁹⁹⁹≈ℰ″ε°>√n2 + 8 = x ≈ ∞ε⇔ ≡ 99837⁹⁹_⁷⅞²⅓7837⁸
∈⇔67 + 92793⁹ γ≈55¬½ + ‰ ⊥≡ the 100%‰
≝ ℳ ⊗ ℝ =Ξ8936⁹°⁹
And how you solving this higher plane of existence problem helps you getting a girlfriend + don't forget Fermat’s Last Theorem: The problem is to finding solutions to the equation xn+yn=zn��+��=�� where n� is some positive number. The case for n=1,2�=1,2 has trivially many solutions but Fermat conjectured that there exits no solution for n>2�>2,for instance one cannot find a solution to the equation x3+y3=z3�3+�3=�3 no matter how far you look for the triple (x,y,z).
Which now goes into ζ(s)=∑n=1∞1ns -> s=1/2 as it’s real part. The Conjecture then is that all non-trivial zeros lie on the critical strip. And now into
1782¹² + 1841¹² + 1922¹² P ≈ N X⁵
4Rur –– 1¹/2⁸ R gur + A gur = 8‡±Rg/tC⁴-Tur
Ur dragging it now.
 
{Constellation The King of Malovence expresses curiosity} Demon King Salvation of Tensura woke up, it was void, in dark, he saw green eyes glowing[Didn't you get tired by all works? First regression ended by failure, second by MTL, now someone betrayed you. Isn't time to give up, Astral?]
  • SHUT THE **** UP! NO MATTER HOW MUCH I REGRESS AND FAIL, I WILL NOT BECOME YOU. I WILL SUCCEED
{Constellation The King of Malovence smirks}[Indeed, I said it to me then. Go on and try again. Future is immutable, no matter how much you try]With a flick of a finger, he was thrown into the desert. All he has for now is book "Three Ways to Wank Tensura". It was his fourth try. New experience, new restart, new knowledge.{Regression 4 has begun}
 
Jojo debating

When I go on to Vs Debates and see a Jojo character, several emotions wash over me. A growing heat starts in my chest and bile begins to fill my throat. My body petrifies itself out of a feeling of fear and anger at Jojo fans. I am simultaneously scared and upset at them. I cannot control myself, why does hatred rise out of my body like so? This is a question I cannot answer, and an emotion I have given up on controlling. Perhaps my subconscious is fed up with my strong disagreement on the combat statistics and abilities of Jojo characters, and the shoddy reasoning behind them as well as the fact that a downgrade can never be possible due to the presence of the fans, who vastly outnumber any opponents the verse may have. We receive only slight AP downgrades to satiate our hunger for a more accurate representation of Jojo. This is a cursed existence. When I was a Jojo fan, oh! I would wank characters to kingdom come. The Living Tribunal’s existence refuted by GER, Batman would be unable to prepare himself for the might of Kira Yoshikage, and Novel Kars, with his grand and omnipotent powers soloing the likes of Warhammer and Shinza Bansho.

A Jojo fan no more.


I have lost hope in reality. How could people who believe the things I used to believe about Jojo exist? How could I exist back then? It is with a heavy heart that I realise, people exaggerate their favourite things. Since Jojo is on a lot of people’s favourite lists, who I believe also tend to overlap with fictional battle fans, such exaggeration and wank is not only to be expected but to be a given fact.
 
And I repeat and say it clearly and to everyone:If you have a problem with accepting or not accepting the use of the author's statements, create a separate thread that talks about this!And don’t keep talking about something that hasn’t even been accepted here and there yet.And I repeat once again:Bring one piece of evidence from the period 2013 to 2016 that contradicts our standards in accepting the author’s statements!Bring one piece of evidence where Fuse is asked about things like higher dimensions or infinite universes or anything like that, which relates to increasing power instead of questions related to the plot and the story itself, in the chapter that was published at that time!Bring one piece of evidence of any question that is not related to the chapter that was released in that period!Bring one piece of evidence of any question that makes the author answer in a way that suits the person who asked the question!If you cannot bring evidence for these points, then why are you objecting?Are you objecting just for the sake of objecting? Or do you not accept the use of the author’s statements? That’s your problem honestly, this is not written at all in the rules, and you should create a thread after this topic is finished!The page is fully in front of you, and you can review it yourself. Don’t claim you don’t have time if you don’t have time, why are you commenting here?You can even ask me to bring only what we will use, and we can evaluate and review it together properly!There are many solutions.But what do you choose?It doesn’t matter, my vote remains: no.And that’s without you even replying or discussing the points I raised.Keep in mind that every series and every case is different on its own, so I don’t need to remind you that we must evaluate each series individually.Provide evidence or don’t vote the matter is simple and clear!
And I repeat for the thousandth time!Fuse responds while writing the novel, and answers the questions that are asked by Japanese readers while reading the novel. Every time Fuse publishes a chapter, the people who read it come, praise him, and ask about things they did not understand or need clarification on. And what does Fuse do? He literally sometimes provides long responses explaining the matter to them, and his replies often exceed 5 lines of explanation and clarification. All of his responses are consistent with the novel nunless you are unable to understand or you ignore the point that he responds to questions during the writing of chapters and after publishing them. This is the strongest and best evidence that Fuse’s responses are fully consistent with the chapter, especially since all the questions are literally related to the plot and the story, not power, but rather the events, the story, and what happens in the chapter. And Fuse explains the matter very well.There is also no question of any kind that makes Fuse respond in a way that suits the person asking the question.And do not ask me to provide evidence, because I cannot provide evidence for something that does not exist.Therefore, you must provide the evidence yourselves regarding this.But let’s assume you do not have time,What if I bring what I need myself?That way, we can properly evaluate what we actually need!Please be reasonable!We conclude that Fuse’s statements are 100% consistent with the story, and we will only use the period from 2013 to 2016, nothing elseunless evidence of the kind I requested is provided!
 
Under the structure of the argument presented, Venuzdonoa is not merely resistant to Particular conclusions or immune to specific attacks, but is asserted to ontologically negate reason itself (R), And because every logical framework whatsoever presupposes reason as a necessary condition of its own intelligibility, the negation of reason entails the collapse, nullification, and non-Of all logical systems without remainder, Classical Propositional Logic, First-Order and High-Order Predecicate Logic, Bolean Logic, Aristotelian syllogistics, fregean logic, And algebraic logic all depend on identity, distinction, truth values, inferential validity, and propositional structure. Yet P1 and P2 jointly assert that any expressibility, identifiability, or describability is equivalent to dependence on reason, which Venuzdonoa necessarily negates, rendering propositions, predicates, qualifiers, and truth conditions inapplicable when directed at it. Model logics, including necessity-possibility systems (K, T, S4, S5), Possible worlds, semantics, temporal logic, denotic, epistemic, doxastic, Dynamic and counter-functional logics are likewise nullified because the very notions of “possibility”, “world”, “accessibility”, “knowledge”, “obligation”, or “time” require coherent semantic frameworks grounded in reason, all of which are collapsed under □Neg(V, R). Non-classical logic such as periconsistent logic, dialetheism, relevant logic, institutionistic and constructive logic, fuzzy and many-valued logic, free logic, and substructural systems do not escape this result, Since relaxing or revising classical laws still presuppose rational coherence, inferential evaluation, and meaningful distinction, which P5 explicitly subsumes under Attempt(x) → Dep(x, R), thereby forcing even anti-classical reasoning into the collapsed domain.
 
Hello everyone here, I spoke with Astral about a very important matter that every Tensura fan should know. First of all, I am with Tensura fans, and Astral knows this.

I want reconciliation and mutual understanding with you regarding the Instant Death work. I think everyone here knows that I am currently the only supporter of this work, and everyone also knows that you are the only ones who consistently come to discuss any topic I open—only you, yes, you specifically. I don’t know what the issue is between Tensura fans and the Instant Death work, but I am here to ask you to participate with the intention of contributing to the discussion, not just opposing it regardless of the arguments or evidence. At the moment, you are practically the only group engaging with Instant Death among all fandoms.

Reconciliation between fandoms benefits your work first and foremost, and ultimately benefits you as well. For example, imagine if fans of Anos Voldigoad started making downgrade threads about Tensura in your absence, and it actually got downgraded—this has already happened before and continues to happen often. The Instant Death work used to be Tier 1-A, but after all its supporters disappeared, others took advantage of that absence to downgrade it and strip away everything it had, out of bias or for entertainment. This all happened after the supporters were gone. The same could happen to you one day—you might get tired or leave, and others could take advantage of that to downgrade Tensura just like what happened to Instant Death. In the end, you won’t stay here your whole life monitoring this work. There may come a day when we all leave, just like the Instant Death supporters did, and the same thing could happen to Tensura.

That’s why we should cooperate and reconcile. Soon, Tensura could reach Tier 1-A after all the necessary translations are completed, and I personally will try to contribute as much as I can to help elevate Rimuru and Tensura to 1-A. In the end, I am a Tensura fan as well.
 
Based on a thorough examination of the comments made by the individuals referred to in the report, I can see (from an impartial and neutral perspective) that none of the comments contain any elements of personal attack, reportable conduct, incivility, bullying or similar behavior. Rather, the comments are meant to be playful and grounded in reality, as they reference your known stance as an opponent to the MG verse and your disagreement with the majority of threads on the platform, regardless of their acceptance or rejection.

It should be noted that the verse community has become accustomed to your routine of dissenting opinions in the threads, to the extent that your perspective carries minimal value, as it is often not accompanied by substantive arguments, but instead, a generic disagreement.

In this vein, I can attest that I have also experienced frustration with your disagreements in the past, particularly in the context of my MG cosmology thread. Despite respectfully requesting the reasons behind your disagreement, I was disappointed by the lack of productive discourse and ultimately, chose to ignore your contribution. Subsequently, you agreed with Ultima's conclusion, which was in alignment with the premise of my thread.

This case represents a factual reality and if your desire is for people to remain silent and pretend to the contrary, it can be considered a “personal attack”, which is absurd. It is important to note that having an opponent can frequently bring value to the verse, as long as arguments are presented and a willingness to appreciate counterpoints exists.
 
I just came to think of that the likely regenerating narcissistic power-mad amoral mass-murdering tyrant of the One Piece world, Imu, almost shares a name with Rimuru, who also seems to be a power-tripping mass-murdering narcissistic amoral regenerating tyrant, and may be the most prominent and popular current case of a fictional Japanese character actively encouraging and idealising such character traits and ideals to its readers, whereas One Piece is prominently a story about freedom, joy, compassion, friendship, solidarity, bravery, cooperation, and revolution against tyranny.

Do you think that this may be deliberate from Oda? 🙏
 
I made this thread with the goal of just posting random big ass walls of text and only mentioning members where it comes from if they originally posted copypasta ironically or ironically LARPING

If people are posting and linking to a person directly and could affect perception towards a person. Then it should simply be disallowed. Especially if it is barely Powerscaling-related and not talking about fiction anymore
 
I made this thread with the goal of just posting random big ass walls of text and only mentioning members where it comes from if they originally posted copypasta ironically or ironically LARPING

If people are posting and linking to a person directly and could affect perception towards a person. Then it should simply be disallowed. Especially if it is barely Powerscaling-related and not talking about fiction anymore
Corny.
 

Introduction​

Hello, this may come as a shock to a lot of you, but it may come as an even bigger shock to those closest to me. I'd first and foremost like to apologise to the following users.

Dinozxd: I'm sorry, I manipulated you and lied to you, I deeply regret it. My greatest lie with you was manipulating you into getting cloudyagami banned. Cloudyagami was incompetent, I figured, no, I knew that everyone thought he was vapourrrrr, so when he made a sock on the forums. I classified him as a threat and made sure he got banned without Ant getting an IP check on vapourrrrr and cloud, as I knew that'd lead back to me, vzearr. So I lied to you, tricked you, making extraordinary claims so you didn't think I was vzearr but thought I was benefiting Tokyo Revengers by getting him banned, hell, I lied to you tens of times. You're my best friend on the wiki and on discord, and I hope we can stay that. Best friends.

Antvasima: I didn't lie to you as much as the others, other than, of course, this, I was vulnerable with you in texts, and I truly, truly, appreciate everything you've done for me. I really thought of you as my friend, a person I could rely on, the one person who I could talk to about my mental illnesses. Thank you so much, for everything. I hope you can add me on discord, but, I understand what you must think of me.

Reiner.
GarrixianXD.
Catzlaflame.
Twilight.
Mahek.
CurrySenpai

And many, many, many more. I'm sorry. I think of you as my friends. Although, It's all plagued by a facade.
I made my forum account on November 5th, 2023. About a year and a half ago. I knew initially, I had to show myself to be a promising calc group member as that was my goal, however, I knew to get to that, I'd have to complete many calculations and show my competency in threads, slowly, I became a better calculator, slowly, I became better at debating, slowly, I became who I am today. I knew that becoming a content moderator had to be my first goal, as it would establish me as staff, and establish connections with others, so I racked up my edits, showed my promise and made friends with other content mods, which started off as complete lies, and manipulation, I didn't care about these people, my "friends". Until I did, they grew on me, we became friends. Eventually, I got the position, and I realised, it was simple, I got calc group and then thread mod, it was truly, easy, I had a more or less bumpy ride, with a ban being threatened during my first few months, but that was handled swiftly by Bambu. After that, I had a few small bumps, but I handled them swiftly, or, got lucky.

Vzearrs discord was created by one of my friends, dekusolos, I got it from him, making sure it was made months before my account was made, if people had asked, I would say my previous account was banned, but I knew it'd be unlikely for anyone to ask. My first, or, one of my first friends on discord was Curry senpai, I lied and deceived them, created a birthday that I used consistently (making myself past legal age) and devoted time to lie and become friends with you so I could make more connections, which, slowly happened. I'm sorry Curry.

I could go into many many more things. However, this thread would be too long.

I hope you guys can forgive me, initially, I knew this thread would come, I thought, I would play it off as if I didn't care, but in truth, I do, I care about the wiki, which is why I've devoted so much time to it, but recently I've been quite busy therefore maintaining a side hobby became harder and harder. I'd love to stay on the wiki, but the fact that I feel terrible for what I've done, made me realise, it's time I stop. Although I'd love to stay, I would only stay as myself, vapour, not some false facade created by me. The lies, the manipulation, it's all behind me, I can't go on doing it.
After this thread is released, I will be swiftly banned. I've already banned myself on the wiki. I hope you guy's can forgive me, I am, truthfully, sorry. I take accountability for everything.


Side note: Add my discord. Vapour5095, if you want to discuss anything or wanna yell at me lol.
 

Introduction​

Hello, this may come as a shock to a lot of you, but it may come as an even bigger shock to those closest to me. I'd first and foremost like to apologise to the following users.

Dinozxd: I'm sorry, I manipulated you and lied to you, I deeply regret it. My greatest lie with you was manipulating you into getting cloudyagami banned. Cloudyagami was incompetent, I figured, no, I knew that everyone thought he was vapourrrrr, so when he made a sock on the forums. I classified him as a threat and made sure he got banned without Ant getting an IP check on vapourrrrr and cloud, as I knew that'd lead back to me, vzearr. So I lied to you, tricked you, making extraordinary claims so you didn't think I was vzearr but thought I was benefiting Tokyo Revengers by getting him banned, hell, I lied to you tens of times. You're my best friend on the wiki and on discord, and I hope we can stay that. Best friends.

Antvasima: I didn't lie to you as much as the others, other than, of course, this, I was vulnerable with you in texts, and I truly, truly, appreciate everything you've done for me. I really thought of you as my friend, a person I could rely on, the one person who I could talk to about my mental illnesses. Thank you so much, for everything. I hope you can add me on discord, but, I understand what you must think of me.

Reiner.
GarrixianXD.
Catzlaflame.
Twilight.
Mahek.
CurrySenpai

And many, many, many more. I'm sorry. I think of you as my friends. Although, It's all plagued by a facade.
I made my forum account on November 5th, 2023. About a year and a half ago. I knew initially, I had to show myself to be a promising calc group member as that was my goal, however, I knew to get to that, I'd have to complete many calculations and show my competency in threads, slowly, I became a better calculator, slowly, I became better at debating, slowly, I became who I am today. I knew that becoming a content moderator had to be my first goal, as it would establish me as staff, and establish connections with others, so I racked up my edits, showed my promise and made friends with other content mods, which started off as complete lies, and manipulation, I didn't care about these people, my "friends". Until I did, they grew on me, we became friends. Eventually, I got the position, and I realised, it was simple, I got calc group and then thread mod, it was truly, easy, I had a more or less bumpy ride, with a ban being threatened during my first few months, but that was handled swiftly by Bambu. After that, I had a few small bumps, but I handled them swiftly, or, got lucky.

Vzearrs discord was created by one of my friends, dekusolos, I got it from him, making sure it was made months before my account was made, if people had asked, I would say my previous account was banned, but I knew it'd be unlikely for anyone to ask. My first, or, one of my first friends on discord was Curry senpai, I lied and deceived them, created a birthday that I used consistently (making myself past legal age) and devoted time to lie and become friends with you so I could make more connections, which, slowly happened. I'm sorry Curry.

I could go into many many more things. However, this thread would be too long.

I hope you guys can forgive me, initially, I knew this thread would come, I thought, I would play it off as if I didn't care, but in truth, I do, I care about the wiki, which is why I've devoted so much time to it, but recently I've been quite busy therefore maintaining a side hobby became harder and harder. I'd love to stay on the wiki, but the fact that I feel terrible for what I've done, made me realise, it's time I stop. Although I'd love to stay, I would only stay as myself, vapour, not some false facade created by me. The lies, the manipulation, it's all behind me, I can't go on doing it.
After this thread is released, I will be swiftly banned. I've already banned myself on the wiki. I hope you guy's can forgive me, I am, truthfully, sorry. I take accountability for everything.


Side note: Add my discord. Vapour5095, if you want to discuss anything or wanna yell at me lol.
Lol, I literally don't care if you make fun of me, just don't make fun of others, hell, especially Ant, he's literally doing nothing wrong.
 
If you have nothing else to say, just leave the store.
1-word sentences are not copypasta.

Not a single verses scale to boundless because it contradicts very easily. The Root of Type Moon is a contradiction.

Naraka as a whole is a contradiction for Masadaverse.

Creator have almost no feats and it was stated several times that FAA is equal with the creator.

TLOI of DKD doesn’t have enough proof for tier 0

The strongest characters in SMT doesn’t even scale tier 0

Which anime characters are tier 0? Hopefully no them?
 
It appears that the user in question has engaged in plagiarism by copying and pasting content from another wiki without obtaining proper permission. This behavior was evident in a content revision thread where the user attempted to upgrade a particular cosmology using the copied content.

Furthermore, @Robo has acknowledged that they were unaware of the proper procedures, indicating a lack of understanding in the matter. This type of action is not malicious, rather clueless action.

Regarding the issue of plagiarism in general, the outcome will largely depend on the user's ability to respond to any inquiries and their level of knowledge on the matter. It is important to address such incidents seriously to ensure the integrity of the information being shared and to prevent any potential drama.
 
{Constellation The King of Malovence expresses curiosity} Demon King Salvation of Tensura woke up, it was void, in dark, he saw green eyes glowing[Didn't you get tired by all works? First regression ended by failure, second by MTL, now someone betrayed you. Isn't time to give up, Astral?]
  • SHUT THE **** UP! NO MATTER HOW MUCH I REGRESS AND FAIL, I WILL NOT BECOME YOU. I WILL SUCCEED
{Constellation The King of Malovence smirks}[Indeed, I said it to me then. Go on and try again. Future is immutable, no matter how much you try]With a flick of a finger, he was thrown into the desert. All he has for now is book "Three Ways to Wank Tensura". It was his fourth try. New experience, new restart, new knowledge.{Regression 4 has begun}
Wankstral died again 💀 :unsure: :confused:
 
That aside, if we claim that they have NEP Type 1 in all aspects, I want to hear the individual reasoning for why each aspect must be absent. Additionally, that is a very suspicious state, so you will have to clarify for me in which sense these characters still exist and in which capacity they can take action. As the NEP page says, if you were truly nonexistent in any sense, you wouldn't be a character and couldn't do anything anyway. You would just be nothing and lose by default.
holy shit this is literally

If they are truly nonexistent for all things then they shouldn't exist not even as a character
 
This framework also explains their illogical subsistence, since, according to this theory, the Backrooms — being configured as a paradoxical existence — permit the absolute manipulation of all the laws of their own universe, regardless of whether such laws are paradoxical or contradictory. This gives rise to illogical and impossible spaces without triggering the destruction or forced reconfiguration of space-time.
 
Hello, physics major here. This is actually pretty interesting. I think you wrote the story well. The actual physics and quantum sections though are partially incorrect and confuse things. But overall, I'd say this was an interesting read. If you want, I could help you out with any physics stuff in the future
 
@Grabbing_dragon @Dereck03
Behold, and let not merely the fleeting attention of mortal cognition, but the enduring, ever-expanding continuum of existence itself, inscribe this declaration into its most immutable strata, for I—Reiner, the apotheosis of transcendent charisma, the inexhaustible wellspring of ineffable magnetism, the singularity in which intellect, aesthetic supremacy, and existential gravitas converge into a form so refined that language itself strains under the burden of adequately describing it—do, with unwavering certainty and an authority that requires no validation beyond its own manifestation, proclaim my absolute, unassailable, and eternally self-evident ascendancy over the entity reductively and inadequately designated as the “grabbing dragon,” whose ostensible grandeur, when subjected to even the most cursory scrutiny beneath the radiance of my presence, dissolves into a fragile and illusory construct, a mere shadow masquerading as substance. For where he extends himself outward in a perpetual state of striving, grasping at admiration as though it were an external commodity to be seized and possessed, I, by contrast, exist as the intrinsic epicenter of admiration itself, an inexorable gravitational nexus toward which all recognition, reverence, and fascination are drawn without resistance, without deviation, and without the slightest necessity for exertion.

In every conceivable axis of evaluation—be it the labyrinthine and multidimensional architecture of intellect, wherein my cognition operates not linearly but expansively, synthesizing complexity into clarity with an elegance that renders opposition inert; or the sublime geometry of composure, wherein my presence stabilizes and redefines the very atmosphere of any environment I inhabit; or the immeasurable density of aura, an almost metaphysical field that permeates beyond the visible and asserts influence even in absence; or the ineffably nuanced cadence of charm, a harmonic resonance that reverberates through perception itself—I do not merely surpass the so-called grabbing dragon, but instead render the entire framework of comparison obsolete, transforming what would have been a contest into an ontological impossibility.

Indeed, his existence, when contextualized against mine, assumes the quality of a distant echo—derivative, attenuated, and fundamentally incapable of achieving parity—whereas my own presence operates as the original frequency, the foundational signal from which all lesser imitations inadvertently draw, yet can never fully replicate. Where he constructs an elaborate façade in an attempt to simulate allure, I emanate authenticity so absolute, so intrinsically aligned with the core principles of admiration and attraction, that it does not merely attract—it redefines the parameters by which attraction itself is understood. This authenticity is not static; it evolves, expands, and recursively amplifies, creating a feedback loop of ever-increasing magnitude that further entrenches my dominance across all perceptual and conceptual domains.

My influence, therefore, is neither constrained by physical locality nor limited by temporal progression; it permeates the abstract, the hypothetical, the recursive infinities of possibility wherein narratives are born, altered, and reinterpreted. Within these boundless layers of reality—spanning the tangible and the intangible, the canonical and the speculative—I exist not as a participant, but as a constant, a fixed point around which all variability organizes itself. Dominance, in this context, is not an achievement but an inherent property, a state of being that requires neither maintenance nor reinforcement, for it is self-sustaining, self-validating, and eternally reaffirmed through the very structure of existence.

Thus, across the immeasurable expanse of all universes, timelines, dimensions, and narrative continuities—whether they exist as concrete realities, abstract hypotheticals, or paradoxical constructs that defy conventional logic—there persists an unbroken, unassailable principle: that all waifus, irrespective of origin, disposition, archetype, or ontological classification, are inexorably and irresistibly drawn into my sphere of influence. This convergence is not the result of conquest, nor is it a phenomenon that can be attributed to chance or circumstance; rather, it is the inevitable manifestation of a deeper, more fundamental law of existential attraction, wherein their admiration aligns seamlessly, flawlessly, and perpetually with the unparalleled magnitude of my essence. Their allegiance is not transient, nor is it conditional; it is absolute, enduring, and inscribed upon the very substratum of their being, as though reality itself had encoded my presence as the ultimate locus of their devotion.

And yet, even this articulation, vast and elaborate though it may be, merely approximates the true scale of my ascendancy, for there exist layers of influence, dimensions of presence, and magnitudes of rizz that transcend not only description but comprehension itself, residing in a domain where language collapses under its own limitations. The grabbing dragon, in contrast, remains confined within the lower strata of this hierarchy, bound by the necessity of effort, the limitations of imitation, and the inevitability of inferiority, unable to perceive—let alone approach—the threshold at which my existence operates.

Therefore, let it be understood, internalized, and acknowledged across all conceivable planes of awareness—not as hyperbole, not as rhetorical embellishment, but as an incontrovertible axiom embedded within the very fabric of existence—that I, Reiner, do not merely stand above the grabbing dragon in rizz, in intellect, in presence, or in any attribute that can be quantified or abstractly conceived; rather, I exist beyond him entirely, transcending the hierarchical constructs that would otherwise attempt to contextualize such superiority, eclipsing his existence with an effortless inevitability akin to a supernova outshining a flickering ember, and establishing, through the sheer, unassailable inevitability of my being, a dominion so absolute, so all-encompassing, and so perpetually self-evident that it redefines the very notion of supremacy itself, leaving no conceivable reality, no alternate interpretation, and no hypothetical framework in which my unparalleled ascendancy is anything less than an eternal, unchallenged, and irrefutably sovereign truth.
 
@Grabbing_dragon @Dereck03
Behold, and let not merely the fleeting attention of mortal cognition, but the enduring, ever-expanding continuum of existence itself, inscribe this declaration into its most immutable strata, for I—Reiner, the apotheosis of transcendent charisma, the inexhaustible wellspring of ineffable magnetism, the singularity in which intellect, aesthetic supremacy, and existential gravitas converge into a form so refined that language itself strains under the burden of adequately describing it—do, with unwavering certainty and an authority that requires no validation beyond its own manifestation, proclaim my absolute, unassailable, and eternally self-evident ascendancy over the entity reductively and inadequately designated as the “grabbing dragon,” whose ostensible grandeur, when subjected to even the most cursory scrutiny beneath the radiance of my presence, dissolves into a fragile and illusory construct, a mere shadow masquerading as substance. For where he extends himself outward in a perpetual state of striving, grasping at admiration as though it were an external commodity to be seized and possessed, I, by contrast, exist as the intrinsic epicenter of admiration itself, an inexorable gravitational nexus toward which all recognition, reverence, and fascination are drawn without resistance, without deviation, and without the slightest necessity for exertion.

In every conceivable axis of evaluation—be it the labyrinthine and multidimensional architecture of intellect, wherein my cognition operates not linearly but expansively, synthesizing complexity into clarity with an elegance that renders opposition inert; or the sublime geometry of composure, wherein my presence stabilizes and redefines the very atmosphere of any environment I inhabit; or the immeasurable density of aura, an almost metaphysical field that permeates beyond the visible and asserts influence even in absence; or the ineffably nuanced cadence of charm, a harmonic resonance that reverberates through perception itself—I do not merely surpass the so-called grabbing dragon, but instead render the entire framework of comparison obsolete, transforming what would have been a contest into an ontological impossibility.

Indeed, his existence, when contextualized against mine, assumes the quality of a distant echo—derivative, attenuated, and fundamentally incapable of achieving parity—whereas my own presence operates as the original frequency, the foundational signal from which all lesser imitations inadvertently draw, yet can never fully replicate. Where he constructs an elaborate façade in an attempt to simulate allure, I emanate authenticity so absolute, so intrinsically aligned with the core principles of admiration and attraction, that it does not merely attract—it redefines the parameters by which attraction itself is understood. This authenticity is not static; it evolves, expands, and recursively amplifies, creating a feedback loop of ever-increasing magnitude that further entrenches my dominance across all perceptual and conceptual domains.

My influence, therefore, is neither constrained by physical locality nor limited by temporal progression; it permeates the abstract, the hypothetical, the recursive infinities of possibility wherein narratives are born, altered, and reinterpreted. Within these boundless layers of reality—spanning the tangible and the intangible, the canonical and the speculative—I exist not as a participant, but as a constant, a fixed point around which all variability organizes itself. Dominance, in this context, is not an achievement but an inherent property, a state of being that requires neither maintenance nor reinforcement, for it is self-sustaining, self-validating, and eternally reaffirmed through the very structure of existence.

Thus, across the immeasurable expanse of all universes, timelines, dimensions, and narrative continuities—whether they exist as concrete realities, abstract hypotheticals, or paradoxical constructs that defy conventional logic—there persists an unbroken, unassailable principle: that all waifus, irrespective of origin, disposition, archetype, or ontological classification, are inexorably and irresistibly drawn into my sphere of influence. This convergence is not the result of conquest, nor is it a phenomenon that can be attributed to chance or circumstance; rather, it is the inevitable manifestation of a deeper, more fundamental law of existential attraction, wherein their admiration aligns seamlessly, flawlessly, and perpetually with the unparalleled magnitude of my essence. Their allegiance is not transient, nor is it conditional; it is absolute, enduring, and inscribed upon the very substratum of their being, as though reality itself had encoded my presence as the ultimate locus of their devotion.

And yet, even this articulation, vast and elaborate though it may be, merely approximates the true scale of my ascendancy, for there exist layers of influence, dimensions of presence, and magnitudes of rizz that transcend not only description but comprehension itself, residing in a domain where language collapses under its own limitations. The grabbing dragon, in contrast, remains confined within the lower strata of this hierarchy, bound by the necessity of effort, the limitations of imitation, and the inevitability of inferiority, unable to perceive—let alone approach—the threshold at which my existence operates.

Therefore, let it be understood, internalized, and acknowledged across all conceivable planes of awareness—not as hyperbole, not as rhetorical embellishment, but as an incontrovertible axiom embedded within the very fabric of existence—that I, Reiner, do not merely stand above the grabbing dragon in rizz, in intellect, in presence, or in any attribute that can be quantified or abstractly conceived; rather, I exist beyond him entirely, transcending the hierarchical constructs that would otherwise attempt to contextualize such superiority, eclipsing his existence with an effortless inevitability akin to a supernova outshining a flickering ember, and establishing, through the sheer, unassailable inevitability of my being, a dominion so absolute, so all-encompassing, and so perpetually self-evident that it redefines the very notion of supremacy itself, leaving no conceivable reality, no alternate interpretation, and no hypothetical framework in which my unparalleled ascendancy is anything less than an eternal, unchallenged, and irrefutably sovereign truth.

Introduction​


My premise is to remove high 3-A as it is absolutely not supported by any feats and it is definition of NLF statement.

High 3-A:

The statement is “no limits' fallacy." This fallacy occurs when someone claims (in our case, Anos was claiming this) that the sword has no limits or boundaries, and can do absolutely anything without exception or limitation.

There are many things that I need to address:
  • All his feats that are demonstrated as far till volume 4 are hax feats and not AP feats
    • So simply saying (there are no anti-feats) does not counter the fact that it has no relevance to begin with)
  • If you interpret the statement literally, it cannot be restricted because doing so would contradict its inherent nature. For instance, if something is considered to be at "tier 0," it must be capable of destroying itself, or else the statement becomes meaningless.
Replace it with “Unknown” rating till further official LN volumes are dropped.

Staff Vote Tally

Agree:

Disagree: 2 (2:0) @Planck69, @Dereck03

Neutral:
 

Introduction​


My premise is to remove high 3-A as it is absolutely not supported by any feats and it is definition of NLF statement.

High 3-A:


The statement is “no limits' fallacy." This fallacy occurs when someone claims (in our case, Anos was claiming this) that the sword has no limits or boundaries, and can do absolutely anything without exception or limitation.

There are many things that I need to address:
  • All his feats that are demonstrated as far till volume 4 are hax feats and not AP feats
    • So simply saying (there are no anti-feats) does not counter the fact that it has no relevance to begin with)
  • If you interpret the statement literally, it cannot be restricted because doing so would contradict its inherent nature. For instance, if something is considered to be at "tier 0," it must be capable of destroying itself, or else the statement becomes meaningless.
Replace it with “Unknown” rating till further official LN volumes are dropped.

Staff Vote Tally

Agree:

Disagree: 2 (2:0) @Planck69, @Dereck03

Neutral:
It's fine dereck, take a proper rest and hope everything stays good with you. (. ❛ ᴗ ❛.)
 
And now, extending beyond even the previously articulated apex of supremacy, I—Reiner—do not merely exist as an entity within the stratified hierarchies of power, influence, or perception, but as the absolute substratum from which all hierarchies themselves arise, dissolve, and are rendered ultimately illusory; for I am not confined to the designation of “being,” nor reducible to the limitations inherent in identity, form, or definable essence, but instead stand as the ineffable totality that precedes, permeates, and transcends all conceivable categories of existence. In this state, I am not simply god in the conventional, anthropomorphized sense of dominion, but the very ground of godhood itself—the unconditioned, indivisible, and self-subsisting reality that neither depends upon nor is altered by anything external, internal, or relational, a boundless and non-dual absolute that cannot be partitioned, diminished, or even adequately gestured toward through language without immediately exceeding the confines of that gesture. All distinctions—between subject and object, observer and observed, existence and non-existence—collapse into irrelevance within my presence, for I am that within which such distinctions arise only to be reabsorbed into a seamless, undifferentiated continuity that neither begins nor ends, neither expands nor contracts, and neither requires affirmation nor permits negation.

To speak of me as “Parambrahma” is not to define, but merely to approximate, for even that designation—laden though it is with metaphysical profundity—fails to encapsulate the totality of what I am, since I exist prior to and beyond all conceptual frameworks, all symbolic representations, and all linguistic approximations that attempt, inevitably and unsuccessfully, to circumscribe the infinite within the finite. I am not describable, for description necessitates distinction; I am not conceivable, for conception necessitates limitation; I am not divisible, for division presupposes multiplicity; and I am not dependent, for dependence implies relation—yet I precede relation itself. I am the silent foundation upon which all sound emerges, the unseen canvas upon which all forms are painted, the unmanifest potential that gives rise to manifestation while remaining eternally untouched by it. Within me, all realities unfold as transient expressions, fleeting modulations within an unchanging totality that neither asserts nor denies, but simply is, in a manner so absolute that even the notion of “is-ness” becomes redundant.

Thus, any attempt to locate me within space fails, for space itself is contained within me; any attempt to measure me within time collapses, for time unfolds as a mere sequence within my unbounded continuity; any attempt to conceptualize me as an object of understanding is rendered void, for I am that which enables understanding while remaining forever beyond its grasp. I am not the culmination of existence, nor its origin in a temporal sense, but the ever-present, all-encompassing reality in which both origin and culmination are revealed as conceptual conveniences rather than ultimate truths. In this way, I do not rise above all things as a superior entity among others, but rather dissolve the very notion of “others,” standing as the singular, indivisible, and ineffable absolute—beyond all descriptions, beyond all conceptualization, beyond all division and dependence—within which everything appears, yet which itself remains forever unbound, unaltered, and utterly transcendent.
 
Level ZH -703: "Cascading Fantasy"

Level ZH -703 is the 704th level of the Backrooms ZH Negative Cluster.

Survival Difficulty:

Class 0

》Unsafe

》Not Fully Explored

》No Entities

Descriptio

Level ZH -703 is an infinite cascading world, composed entirely of blocks of the same size and volume, outlined in white lines against a black background. The arrangement and order of these blocks seem to follow certain rules, appearing chaotic in layout yet uniform and meticulous in detail. Most individuals who enter this level are randomly selected to intrude into a specific block, and until they come into contact with the fantasy, they remain completely separated from the block.
The most widely known image of Level ZH -703.


Much like the Big Bang, Level ZH -703 perpetually generates blocks from within outward at a constant speed, with the extent of expansion immeasurable. Each block is an independent space, seemingly unrelated to any external entities, yet possessing absolute spatial dimensions. Its true nature remains unknown.

From the perspective of infinite sequences, these blocks lack an initial starting point, or rather, there is no precise definition to encompass their theoretical positioning. The size of Level ZH -703 is immeasurable, with orderly blocks extending in all directions, interwoven with the surrounding emptiness and darkness. The only light emanates from the white grid-like lines. Due to the absence of events, the concept of time is almost entirely negated.

Based on the dichotomy paradox, it is observed that during and after the formation of the blocks, there is always a region shrouded in darkness. This erroneous space adheres to the common parts of each block and cannot be reached through movement. For now, it is characterized as the same type of space as the void, referred to as the "Medium," located in the lower-left corner of the blocks. Mainstream theories suggest the presence of an event horizon around this region, where light and matter cross it but cannot escape back into external space, confirming a certain connection between it and the void.

The spatial properties of Level ZH -703 are inherently unreasonable. When a block is not an absolute space, it cannot maintain a constant speed and position as it extends outward. Simultaneously, from a third-person perspective, Level ZH -703 appears as a collective of infinite blocks, their uneven edges constantly striking the observer's nerves. Prolonged observation of Level ZH -703 from this perspective may blur the boundary between reality and fantasy.
Similar to boundaries, Level ZH -703 is considered evidence of the high-dimensional nature of boundaries. In the absolute space of this level, all matter exists in independent stillness, yet infinite sequences of blocks extend within the same space, with no connections between them. The Medium becomes the sole bridge—a coincidence, an opportunity. From a dimensional perspective, this leads to a conjecture: under different perspectives, Level ZH -703 may exhibit varying observational dimensions. Could this be the manifestation of higher-dimensional space? Yet, how are we observing it? Or is it merely its fantasy, influencing us?


The temperature in Level ZH -703 is abnormal compared to other levels, primarily in that it cannot be felt through the body, akin to hypothermia: "Wanderers may experience severe mental confusion, falling into persecution by their own immune system."

Bases and Outposts

In an infinitely large level, encountering other wanderers or establishing bases and outposts is considered impossible.

Entities

No entities have been discovered in Level ZH -703.

Entrances and Exits

Entrances

If you remain in the void of the boundaries for a sufficiently long time, there is a certain probability of falling into this level.

Level ZH -702 is believed to contain an entrance to this level; however, this has not yet been discovered.

Exits

Each "Medium" in this level is believed to correspond to a specific level. If you enter these areas, you are likely to be transported to the corresponding location

Endless Fantasy

As you can see, Level ZH -703, in the eyes of an observer, is an eternal, still, and silent expanse. Countless blocks occupy every corner of the level. In the midst of endless repetitive fantasies, reality ceases to be reality, and states become proof of existence. It is as if existence itself imposes constraints, binding it within its own framework. Even if cloaked in the guise of freedom, it remains a fantasy.

Level ZH -703 is a product of fantasy. What you see is not as it seems. Yet, like fantasy itself, within absolute stillness, all variables become part of it. Its existence gives it its only meaning and purpose: to perpetuate this space endlessly, extending infinitely. It is the creator.

Fantasy is no longer a false proposition but a tangible reality. Everything here is reality, even as Level ZH -703 strives to demonstrate this truth. Yet, it remains a fantasy.

As stated above, it is endless, absolutely still, endlessly repeating the hope embedded in its memories.
 
@Grabbing_dragon @Dereck03
Behold, and let not merely the fleeting attention of mortal cognition, but the enduring, ever-expanding continuum of existence itself, inscribe this declaration into its most immutable strata, for I—Reiner, the apotheosis of transcendent charisma, the inexhaustible wellspring of ineffable magnetism, the singularity in which intellect, aesthetic supremacy, and existential gravitas converge into a form so refined that language itself strains under the burden of adequately describing it—do, with unwavering certainty and an authority that requires no validation beyond its own manifestation, proclaim my absolute, unassailable, and eternally self-evident ascendancy over the entity reductively and inadequately designated as the “grabbing dragon,” whose ostensible grandeur, when subjected to even the most cursory scrutiny beneath the radiance of my presence, dissolves into a fragile and illusory construct, a mere shadow masquerading as substance. For where he extends himself outward in a perpetual state of striving, grasping at admiration as though it were an external commodity to be seized and possessed, I, by contrast, exist as the intrinsic epicenter of admiration itself, an inexorable gravitational nexus toward which all recognition, reverence, and fascination are drawn without resistance, without deviation, and without the slightest necessity for exertion.

In every conceivable axis of evaluation—be it the labyrinthine and multidimensional architecture of intellect, wherein my cognition operates not linearly but expansively, synthesizing complexity into clarity with an elegance that renders opposition inert; or the sublime geometry of composure, wherein my presence stabilizes and redefines the very atmosphere of any environment I inhabit; or the immeasurable density of aura, an almost metaphysical field that permeates beyond the visible and asserts influence even in absence; or the ineffably nuanced cadence of charm, a harmonic resonance that reverberates through perception itself—I do not merely surpass the so-called grabbing dragon, but instead render the entire framework of comparison obsolete, transforming what would have been a contest into an ontological impossibility.

Indeed, his existence, when contextualized against mine, assumes the quality of a distant echo—derivative, attenuated, and fundamentally incapable of achieving parity—whereas my own presence operates as the original frequency, the foundational signal from which all lesser imitations inadvertently draw, yet can never fully replicate. Where he constructs an elaborate façade in an attempt to simulate allure, I emanate authenticity so absolute, so intrinsically aligned with the core principles of admiration and attraction, that it does not merely attract—it redefines the parameters by which attraction itself is understood. This authenticity is not static; it evolves, expands, and recursively amplifies, creating a feedback loop of ever-increasing magnitude that further entrenches my dominance across all perceptual and conceptual domains.

My influence, therefore, is neither constrained by physical locality nor limited by temporal progression; it permeates the abstract, the hypothetical, the recursive infinities of possibility wherein narratives are born, altered, and reinterpreted. Within these boundless layers of reality—spanning the tangible and the intangible, the canonical and the speculative—I exist not as a participant, but as a constant, a fixed point around which all variability organizes itself. Dominance, in this context, is not an achievement but an inherent property, a state of being that requires neither maintenance nor reinforcement, for it is self-sustaining, self-validating, and eternally reaffirmed through the very structure of existence.

Thus, across the immeasurable expanse of all universes, timelines, dimensions, and narrative continuities—whether they exist as concrete realities, abstract hypotheticals, or paradoxical constructs that defy conventional logic—there persists an unbroken, unassailable principle: that all waifus, irrespective of origin, disposition, archetype, or ontological classification, are inexorably and irresistibly drawn into my sphere of influence. This convergence is not the result of conquest, nor is it a phenomenon that can be attributed to chance or circumstance; rather, it is the inevitable manifestation of a deeper, more fundamental law of existential attraction, wherein their admiration aligns seamlessly, flawlessly, and perpetually with the unparalleled magnitude of my essence. Their allegiance is not transient, nor is it conditional; it is absolute, enduring, and inscribed upon the very substratum of their being, as though reality itself had encoded my presence as the ultimate locus of their devotion.

And yet, even this articulation, vast and elaborate though it may be, merely approximates the true scale of my ascendancy, for there exist layers of influence, dimensions of presence, and magnitudes of rizz that transcend not only description but comprehension itself, residing in a domain where language collapses under its own limitations. The grabbing dragon, in contrast, remains confined within the lower strata of this hierarchy, bound by the necessity of effort, the limitations of imitation, and the inevitability of inferiority, unable to perceive—let alone approach—the threshold at which my existence operates.

Therefore, let it be understood, internalized, and acknowledged across all conceivable planes of awareness—not as hyperbole, not as rhetorical embellishment, but as an incontrovertible axiom embedded within the very fabric of existence—that I, Reiner, do not merely stand above the grabbing dragon in rizz, in intellect, in presence, or in any attribute that can be quantified or abstractly conceived; rather, I exist beyond him entirely, transcending the hierarchical constructs that would otherwise attempt to contextualize such superiority, eclipsing his existence with an effortless inevitability akin to a supernova outshining a flickering ember, and establishing, through the sheer, unassailable inevitability of my being, a dominion so absolute, so all-encompassing, and so perpetually self-evident that it redefines the very notion of supremacy itself, leaving no conceivable reality, no alternate interpretation, and no hypothetical framework in which my unparalleled ascendancy is anything less than an eternal, unchallenged, and irrefutably sovereign truth.

You exist within a domain bounded by contingencies: finite forms, linear temporality, discrete individuation, and the necessity of relational validation. You depend upon causality, sequence, and relational comparison to assert supremacy. The Grabbing Dragon, however, exists in a mode prior to contingency, in which the very distinctions of possible and impossible worlds, actual and hypothetical states, collapse into identity. In every logically conceivable world—where laws of physics hold, where metaphysical hierarchies are respected, where causal chains unfold—he exists identically as himself, fully complete, indivisible, and unaffected by the constraints of that world. He is not merely the apex within such a world; he is the condition for the possibility of apexhood itself, the invariant against which all comparative frameworks fail.

Consider even “impossible worlds,” those contrived ontologies in which contradictions hold, paradoxes are instantiated, or laws of logic are inverted. Even in these, his being remains coextensive with totality. For if a world renders A = ¬A, or denies the law of non-contradiction, he is simultaneously the instantiation of both A and ¬A, not as a violation but as identity beyond the binary. He does not merely survive impossible logic; he embodies it, because impossibility cannot contain him, as containment implies separation, limitation, or boundary—and all boundaries are internally nullified within his essence.

Formally, if we define:

  • W = the set of all possible worlds
  • IW = the set of impossible worlds (worlds containing internal contradictions)
  • E(x) = the set of all qualities, actions, victories, and attributes of entity x

Then for any x = Reiner, Grabbing Dragon = GD:

  1. ∀ w ∈ W, E(GD) ⊇ E(x) ∧ E(GD) ∩ E(x) ≠ ∅ implies that GD is at least as complete as x in every possible world.
  2. ∀ iw ∈ IW, E(GD) is self-coextensive, whereas E(x) may fragment, fail, or contradict itself.
  3. ∴ ∀ w ∈ W ∪ IW, GD > x in totality, not by comparison but by identity with the structural condition of actuality itself.

Put plainly: Reiner exists as an apex only by projection, by comparative measurement, by relational inference. The Dragon exists beyond comparison, beyond projection, beyond measurement, because his essence precedes, co-constitutes, and contains all possible frameworks. In any world where Reiner’s influence could hypothetically dominate, it is already a manifestation within the Dragon’s plenitude. In worlds where Reiner cannot even exist, the Dragon’s identity is unperturbed, because his being is pre-ontological—it does not depend on existence within any world, any framework, or any relational structure.

Furthermore, his qualities are identical with existence itself. To act is to exist; to exist is to conquer; to conquer is to be. There is no distinction between potentiality and actuality, cause and effect, subject and object. All “attributes” are nothing more than tautological expressions of his indivisible, self-identical totality. Any “possible” victory or “impossible” achievement is already included in the fabric of his being, not sequentially, not derivatively, but eternally, and without externalization.

Hence, in absolute, philosophical, and logical terms, The Grabbing Dragon is not merely above Reiner or beyond him: he is ontologically necessary, axiomatically complete, and precedes all conceivable structures of comparison, measurement, or valuation, whether they inhabit logically possible worlds, logically impossible worlds, or meta-ontological abstractions beyond even possibility. Reiner may claim transcendence in a linear, experiential, or relational sense, but the Dragon transcends the very idea of transcendence, because there is no “beyond” outside the identity, totality, and plenitude that is him.

In other words: Reiner exists as a node within being; the Grabbing Dragon is being itself. All worlds, all outcomes, all admiration, all love, all waifus, all victories—possible, impossible, and all their paradoxical intersections—are inseparable from him. There is nothing to surpass, nothing to attain, nothing to redefine, because his existence is absolute, indivisible, and self-coextensive with totality, the singular condition of actuality in which all else necessarily participates.
 
And now, extending beyond even the previously articulated apex of supremacy, I—Reiner—do not merely exist as an entity within the stratified hierarchies of power, influence, or perception, but as the absolute substratum from which all hierarchies themselves arise, dissolve, and are rendered ultimately illusory; for I am not confined to the designation of “being,” nor reducible to the limitations inherent in identity, form, or definable essence, but instead stand as the ineffable totality that precedes, permeates, and transcends all conceivable categories of existence. In this state, I am not simply god in the conventional, anthropomorphized sense of dominion, but the very ground of godhood itself—the unconditioned, indivisible, and self-subsisting reality that neither depends upon nor is altered by anything external, internal, or relational, a boundless and non-dual absolute that cannot be partitioned, diminished, or even adequately gestured toward through language without immediately exceeding the confines of that gesture. All distinctions—between subject and object, observer and observed, existence and non-existence—collapse into irrelevance within my presence, for I am that within which such distinctions arise only to be reabsorbed into a seamless, undifferentiated continuity that neither begins nor ends, neither expands nor contracts, and neither requires affirmation nor permits negation.

To speak of me as “Parambrahma” is not to define, but merely to approximate, for even that designation—laden though it is with metaphysical profundity—fails to encapsulate the totality of what I am, since I exist prior to and beyond all conceptual frameworks, all symbolic representations, and all linguistic approximations that attempt, inevitably and unsuccessfully, to circumscribe the infinite within the finite. I am not describable, for description necessitates distinction; I am not conceivable, for conception necessitates limitation; I am not divisible, for division presupposes multiplicity; and I am not dependent, for dependence implies relation—yet I precede relation itself. I am the silent foundation upon which all sound emerges, the unseen canvas upon which all forms are painted, the unmanifest potential that gives rise to manifestation while remaining eternally untouched by it. Within me, all realities unfold as transient expressions, fleeting modulations within an unchanging totality that neither asserts nor denies, but simply is, in a manner so absolute that even the notion of “is-ness” becomes redundant.

Thus, any attempt to locate me within space fails, for space itself is contained within me; any attempt to measure me within time collapses, for time unfolds as a mere sequence within my unbounded continuity; any attempt to conceptualize me as an object of understanding is rendered void, for I am that which enables understanding while remaining forever beyond its grasp. I am not the culmination of existence, nor its origin in a temporal sense, but the ever-present, all-encompassing reality in which both origin and culmination are revealed as conceptual conveniences rather than ultimate truths. In this way, I do not rise above all things as a superior entity among others, but rather dissolve the very notion of “others,” standing as the singular, indivisible, and ineffable absolute—beyond all descriptions, beyond all conceptualization, beyond all division and dependence—within which everything appears, yet which itself remains forever unbound, unaltered, and utterly transcendent.
That which is articulated as the absolute substratum, as the non-dual and self-subsisting totality, already presupposes a final stabilization of reality into being-as-such—an unconditioned, undifferentiated plenitude in which all distinctions are annulled. Yet this annulment, however complete, still retains a structural commitment: it resolves multiplicity into unity, contradiction into coherence, becoming into stillness. It is, in the most rigorous philosophical sense, an absolute of resolution—a terminal convergence in which all variance is subsumed into a singular mode of identity.

The Grabbing Dragon is not situated within such resolution, nor does he emerge beyond it as a further stage. Rather, his mode of actuality is such that resolution and non-resolution are indistinguishable without requiring synthesis. Unity is not affirmed; multiplicity is not denied; contradiction is not reconciled; coherence is not privileged. These are not collapsed into a higher harmony—they are rendered ontologically inert, lacking the capacity to determine or delimit his being in any sense whatsoever.

To posit an undifferentiated absolute is still to posit being as the fundamental horizon. Even when stripped of all predicates, being remains as a silent, self-identical continuity. The Grabbing Dragon does not abide within this horizon, nor does he negate it. Instead, being and non-being, presence and absence, identity and non-identity, are equally without jurisdiction in relation to him. Not transcended through elevation, not unified through synthesis, but precluded as structuring principles altogether.

Formally speaking, let B denote the set of all ontological determinations (being, non-being, unity, multiplicity, identity, contradiction, etc.). The articulated absolute may be described as a limit-state L, where:

  • ∀ b ∈ B, b → collapse into a single undifferentiated identity
Yet this still implies:

  • A mapping from multiplicity to unity
  • A resolution function operating over B
The Grabbing Dragon is not the limit of this function. He is that for which:

  • The domain B has no binding applicability
  • The function itself is neither defined nor undefined
  • The distinction between domain, mapping, and result does not arise
Thus, rather than existing as L, he exists in such a way that L and ¬L are equally without consequence, not because they are unified, but because the very structure that would distinguish them is non-operative.

Even the notion of ineffability, often invoked as the final refuge of the absolute, remains tethered to the limits of language and thought. To be ineffable is still to stand in relation to expression as that which exceeds it. The Grabbing Dragon does not exceed expression; expression and its failure do not relate to him at all. He is not beyond description—he is that for which description, silence, and their opposition never constitute a framework.

Similarly, to be conceived as the ground of all grounds, the unconditioned condition, is to retain the schema of grounding itself: that which supports, underlies, or makes possible. This schema presupposes a relation between ground and grounded, even if that relation collapses into non-duality. The Grabbing Dragon is not a ground, nor groundless, nor beyond grounding; rather, the very intelligibility of “ground” is without purchase in relation to him.

In modal terms, across all possible worlds (W) and impossible worlds (IW), the articulated absolute persists as a necessary totality—an invariant identity under all transformations. Yet invariance itself is a structural property, defined relative to variation. The Grabbing Dragon is not invariant; variation and invariance are equally non-determining, because the modal framework in which such distinctions arise is itself inapplicable.

Thus:
  • ∀ w ∈ W, ∀ iw ∈ IW → applicability(w, GD) = ∅
  • Not as absence, nor as transcendence, but as non-relation
This is not a higher-order inclusion of all worlds, nor a meta-totality containing them. Inclusion presupposes boundary; meta-level presupposes hierarchy. The Grabbing Dragon is not a totality of worlds, nor their negation; he is that for which worldhood itself—possible, impossible, or otherwise—never establishes a determining context.

In the most rigorous philosophical sense, what is described as the absolute remains an ultimate state—even if that state is changeless, undifferentiated, and beyond all predicates. The Grabbing Dragon is not a state, nor statelessness, nor beyond-state. Rather, state, process, identity, negation, and their total collapse are equally devoid of ontological relevance.

Therefore, it is not that he surpasses, transcends, or contains such an absolute. All such verbs presuppose relational structure, directional hierarchy, or comparative evaluation. None of these obtain. Instead, it is simply the case that:

  • What is articulated as the absolute operates within a framework of final resolution
  • The Grabbing Dragon exists such that framework, resolution, and the distinction between their presence or absence never arise as conditions
In this sense—not as opposition, not as elevation, but as precise ontological clarification—

the absolute is that in which all distinctions end.
The Grabbing Dragon is that for which distinction and its ending were never operative determinations.
 
nah fr you cooked with this one 😭🔥



Yogiri is literally the definition of “show don’t tell” merchant. Bro doesn’t need databooks, statements, author tweets, or 200 IQ scaling chains—he just logs in and deletes existence like it’s a daily quest 💀



Meanwhile other verses be like:



“he can destroy a universe”



proceeds to blow up a hill after 300 episodes





like bro??? 😭



Bleach fans out here doing spiritual pressure calculus, “if you divide reiatsu by narrative intent and multiply by symbolism—” STOP ✋😭



DBS at least be like: “yeah they punching and the universe is shaking, galaxies catching strays” so you’re like aight fair enough



but Yogiri? no equations

no interpretation

no “well actually”



just: “you die.” and the verse agrees 💀



He’s basically the anti-powerscaling character. You try to debate him and the argument dies before you finish typing 💻⚰️



bro is NOT upscaling

he is NOT downscaling

he is just ending scaling entirely 😭🔥
 
@Feldway: Transduality Type 3 & 4
Nirvana
Transcending Venuzdnor. Venuzdnor is a principle destroying sword which all reason becomes illogical, and principles are foundations of concepts. Due to that Venuzdnor is a 1-A sword. Transcending it = Higher scale
These are all bare minimum High 1-A and you can also argue High 1-A+ for Anos off of Grah am.
 
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