My Instant Larpers are So Overpowered, No One in This Fandom Stands a Chance Against Reading!

Hecky2222 · May 1, 2026

Permission granted by @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless in discord

All credits goes to @Ruler_Star_Kuma, @RaikiKurohane99, @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless, @Hecky2222

So it isn't even secret over wiki flooded by ID larpers and we got wanks that taken out of context. Hence after discussion with UMR, we decided to make staff thread(In case prevent this thread from spam and arguments from mediatok larpers that doesn't even counter nor relevant to thread). So let's begin
Immeasurable Speed or what is it even?
Whole immeasurable speed chainscaling comes from this feat performed by Hedgehog in Volume 7 Chapter 23. At first glance, everything feels alright, until you look at context, which makes no sense if we think this feat performed by pure speed

“Just die!” The Hedgehog’s right arm was twisted off and blown away. “So you can even dodge that?!”
Although she seemed furious at first, the woman howled with glee upon seeing the Hedgehog’s response. She had performed an attack on the past. The Hedgehog responded to the attack by moving even further into the past, partially avoiding the attack that had forcibly rewritten an already determined outcome. Within a limited space-time environment, the ability to alter phenomena was only natural for a god. If one couldn’t fight on that level, they had no business fighting a god. For the Hedgehog, who had been designed specifically to fight against gods, such an ability was a necessary function.

OTL of Vol 7 Chapter 23

So first question to context of this scene will be "Was Hedgehog in past even or God who was fighting with dude simply performed attack to past? If second, then why tf Hedgehog who remains here in present should avoid attack by moving further into past. Unless it is just him manipulating his past-self to avoid that attack. This can be read even in OTL when you look at this: Within a limited space-time environment, the ability to alter phenomena was only natural for a god. So essentially ability to alter phenomena in context can't be speed, but rather it implies past manipulation. This is context. But what does RAW Translations tell us?

確定した事象を無理やりに書き換えるその攻撃を、針鼠ヘツジホツグはさらに過去の自分を操作することにより対応したのだ。

　限定的な時空間においての事象の改変は、神ならできて当たり前の技能だ。その次元での闘いができないのなら、神と闘う資格はない。

Raws of Vol 7 Chap 23

The attack that forcibly rewrites a determined (fixed) phenomenon, the hedgehog Hedgehog dealt with it by further manipulating his past self.
The alteration of phenomena within a limited spacetime is a skill that, if one is a god, can naturally be done. If one cannot fight at that dimension, there is no qualification to fight a god.

Translation by @RaikiKurohane99 in discord

As you can see, even in RAWs text straight up tells "it is past manipulation" instead of speed. This is textbook Causality Manipulation which can be meet often in verse, and we have in fiction similar abilities of past alteration

So Proposal 1 includes:
1. Hedgehog "Immeasurable Speed" will be changed to "Causality Manipulation", and everyone who was chainscaled to Hedgehog will lose this speed
2. Hedgehog and Top Tiers will be scaled to best speed calc feat.

Biggest Joke: History Regeneration
This thread aka our favorite LARPzerty managed to take everything out of context and now every god tier has High Godly Regeneration through History, eventhough it was stated multiple times by other users "History Regen is rare". If you are lazy to read. Let me bring up full context:

In very short version of context: History Erasure comes from special thing called "Erasure Bold". It was when Mitsuki was explaining that to Yogiri. This thing has own name "Erasure Bold" and was used only once. ONLY ONCE AND IT DIDN'T WORK.

Mitsuki collapsed, his erasure bolt winking out before it reached Yogiri. Hisfriend Alexia was still frozen

Chapter 25 Volume 13

Whole context for people who are interested

As we can see, it was used only one time. So this doesn't prove how gods regenerate from Erasure Bold. To assume this is true: We should think Mitsuki uses his trump card everytime and Existence Erasure is rare thing in Verse. Which we can see it isn't. It is like saying any God from DB can survive Zeno's EE(Cringe analogy but you get point of "Best attack that isn't used more than one time" I hope).

But you can ask "Sure, but they have causality, information, conceptual erasure, why don't they use it against each other". Response to it was covered here perfectly:

Azertyhuuh said:
Azertyhuuh said:

First, it is stated that gods are indestructible; they can return from death and cannot be killed at all. Even if you kill or erase them, they will reappear again, and there is no way to permanently erase them. Thus, the victor always ends up sealing the god to win, because killing them is impossible, and sealing is what ends the conflict.

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This is outright fishy, especially since this scan comes along from the same chapter where we get (the objectively best character) Kouryu explaining the significance and nature of a God's omnipotence as a whole.

Kouryu explained as it being inherently subjective, varying from person to person as well as when it comes down to two Gods fighting another, it's not only strength but ones mindset AND strength that can have one come out on top, it all being defined by each God's own will and emotions. Contradictions with something like omniscience hamper these sorts of ideals, so they're ignored for the most part.

Such mental hampering is very detrimental to the point that Gods like Malna after getting mentally done in (mogged) by Kouryu, though still superior to him as said by himself, she’s able to be killed by getting impaled from behind by the likes of Miranda, without any notion of her core, soul, or concept even getting damaged. Implying that Gods (once mentally done in) can perish from much less than any aspects being destroyed.

It possibly wouldn't be so bad, possibly, but this isn't the only time something like this happens. I believe ignoring this is (obviously without a doubt) bad and VERY hard to do. Especially concerning how existence erasure on our actual page says it's never assumed to be done to any metaphysical aspects like the soul of someone automatically/by default. Heck, there's examples and blatant showings where a character has been described to be 'erased', but they're doing little more than attacking them with AP (likely to assume advantage of the weakness of their omnipotence powers) but no mention of anything important.

Even while said examples do include the likes of striking the cores, it's hardly any evidence to imply it's tied to something like the Gods concept, UEG even going out of her way to actively differentiate between the two in her experience against the likes of Rick and against the nameless instant death boy. Hell, not even any suggestion it's like their soul unless it's to assume a 'likely', it tosses up the question for if every other God should have such high level of overtime revival as you're proposing. Mind you, that same boy (if not just their ability alone in terms of effectiveness) having the likelihood of being stronger than what Touichiro has been shown to really do. So only really UEG benefits, and even then it'd be Mid-Godly at best due to her seeing it as a way to permanently put her down, she just comes back ridiculously faster overall from something like core destruction.

Azertyhuuh said:

It is also stated that death for gods is merely another state of existence from which they eventually recover and return to life. Death and annihilation for gods are simply another phase of existence.

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To address this, this also seems very fishy as if you're trying to fish for some sort of NEP out of the Gods when not even THE UEG (horrible name) sees the concept of nonexistence as impossible, and that's alongside the fact of Kouryu tossing up the question of if where they had been was even real to begin with (thus making it vague.) It should be saying a lot if you think a God any lower than her should gain such a thing. But, that's me assuming you are, this is a regeneration thread after all. It's moreso a God being in an afterlife waiting room of sorts.

Azertyhuuh said:

The Great Sage Mitsuki himself, who is capable of erasing a character’s entire history (past, present, and future), was unable to erase the gods. Mitsuki was forced to seal them instead, because gods would return even after being killed. Therefore, he had no choice but to seal them to deal with them. This further supports that such erasure is ineffective against gods.

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However, I explicitly have the most problem right here. Mitsuki is a top of the line god, though this text specifies it as him likely giving the person being talked about some mercy, it's less there being no choice and more likely among the way Gods have gotten defeated before as described in this post, and not having defeated them to such an extent (history erasure) because of one missing piece of context left out.

That being, Mitsuki's history erasure works on.. himself as well. History Erasure, at least how Mitsuki defines his will have everyone not remember you upon being struck by it, even including from himself. It goes hand in hand with his control over his jurisdiction of a dream in that upon being forgotten by him, it is then one essentially gets hit with a sort of 'super erasure' due to them disappearing from his dream overall. Unless you can show that Gods can exist being erased so deeply to where they can disappear from his dream and come back.. just how exactly does this apply to every other god?

Azertyhuuh said:

Complete erasure, causality erasure, and conceptual attacks—these kinds of abilities are possible for anyone within the Sea, and gods (as well as most characters in Instant Death) resist, survive, or negate them.

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This link leads to the history erasure scan for Mitsuki's erasure bolt, don't know what this is doing here (made a mistake or something?) But because I know what scan you're talking about, I'll indulge it a bit.

'Conceptual attacks' mean nothing by themselves, UEG can induce her attacks with the concept of ignoring defense, but something like that is unrelated. See where that falls apart? So they can be considered unimportant.

Complete erasure - See to my link about the different sorts of erasure within Instant Death as for what 'complete erasure' can refer to.

Causality Erasure - You'd think this would seem fairly surefire as additional evidence, yeah, but.. so what? Is this assuming Gods can resist such erasure just because it exists in the sea? We've seen gods other than UEG essentially survive much less, no? Not like any bit of the OP in terms of some of the evidence dedicates it's time to addressing the points involved in the same Mid-Godly downgrade thread for someone like UEG in the first place, why would they work for the Gods who're explicitly below them? But like I said - she explicitly needs to be conceptually killed anyway, so Mid-Godly for her at best is fine.

But we don't say nuke it to LGR back. It was stated soul = mind in Instant Death. Meaning whoever on UEG level would get Mid Godly Regeneration

And based on this we should add this to Gods profile

Weaknesses: Gods and their Omnipotence functionally rely on their mindset, this effectively allows one to potentially outright nullify or even ignore aspects (such as regeneration) for them to be killed via lesser means than they can usually handle. Said death from then onward leading them to be rendered in their Non-Combat Applicable state.

So Proposal 2 includes:
1. History Regeneration Downgrade, as well it would include why any other regenerations not possible
2. As well stated above. Gods who are in UEG level would get Mid Godly Regeneration Overtime, whereas Yogiri would have MGR Negation
Finally additions
After all nuke, we can add something right?
Yogiri should get Causality Manipulation under his first gate, this would become "Greater Causality Manipulation" for his third gate as a result

Causality Manipulation (Yogiri can kill anything and everything in the setting. Should be able to do the same as "The Boy" that could kill events to revert causality)

TLDR:
1. History Regen will be changed to MGR
2. Immeasurable Speed will be changed to MFTL+
3. Addition to profile

Agree: @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless @Reiner04 @Vietthai96
Disagree:
Neutral:

Hecky2222 · May 1, 2026

Since i am bit overloaded with university stuff rn and won't have time to look to thread in this days. I would like to ask permission for @Cipher72 , @Astral_Trinity439 , @Ruler_Star_Kuma to write in this thread

Just a Random Butler · May 1, 2026

Hecky2222 said:
Since i am bit overloaded with university stuff rn and won't have time to look to thread in this days. I would like to ask permission for @Cipher72 , @Astral_Trinity439 , @Ruler_Star_Kuma to write in this thread

Granting @Cipher72, @Astral_Trinity439, and @Ruler_Star_Kuma to write in the thread, but only for up to three messages (for each).

RaikiKurohane99 · May 1, 2026

Azertyhuuh said:
Do I understand that this thread is meant to prevent me from participating in it, the same way Tensura fans do when they open threads in the staff section to block opposing views so their arguments get approved?
This is peak abuse, and I will report every Tensura fan now, as well as the practice of opening threads in the staff section to prevent all opponents from expressing their opinions freely.

Don’t tell me to go get permission—opening threads in the staff section excludes even people I might not know, who could be experts on Instant Death but are working on other series, so it’s pointless.
I’m going to report even the staff members who keep approving threads in the staff section every time, because this behavior is literally helping destroy the entire community.

I see this as an attempt to silence opposition and impose your view so it gets approved quickly by the staff and implemented, just like what’s happening with Tensura right now.

You Tensura fans are a real disaster here, and there is absolutely no cure for you.

I don’t think what you’re saying is necessary, because no one said that expressing your opinion is forbidden. On the contrary, your opinions are important to get a complete perspective from both sides.
So you can simply ask the moderators to grant you appropriate commenting permissions, as well as for the supporters whom you believe may contribute to the discussion in a useful way here.
And as a piece of advice from me, try to improve your behavior.

Azertyhuuh · May 1, 2026

Hecky2222 said:
Biggest Joke: History Regeneration
This thread aka our favorite LARPzerty managed to take everything out of context and now every god tier has High Godly Regeneration through History, eventhough it was stated multiple times by other users "History Regen is rare". If you are lazy to read. Let me bring up full context:

In very short version of context: History Erasure comes from special thing called "Erasure Bold". It was when Mitsuki was explaining that to Yogiri. This thing has own name "Erasure Bold" and was used only once. ONLY ONCE AND IT DIDN'T WORK.

Chapter 25 Volume 13

The High-Godly via history issue was already discussed and approved roughly 11 days ago.

Can you tell us the specific name? And can you also show where it is stated that it was used only once? Also, you said it didn’t work—why do you think that is? Because he attempted to attack Yogiri, and I already explained this point here; I will also repost the response below ↓

What happened here is that Mitsuki was going to erase Yogiri across the entire timeline (past, present, and future), as if he had never existed and would be completely forgotten. When Mitsuki prepared the erasure bullet in his hand, he threw it calmly and at a deliberately slow speed because he knew it could not be avoided; even if Yogiri tried to escape, it would follow him regardless. Yogiri was aware of this, so he opened his third gate and freed himself from all constraints. He then severed the connection between Mitsuki and his dream, which led to the loss of Mitsuki’s authority over the dream. This caused the erasure bullet to fail to reach Yogiri, since he had been disconnected from the dream, resulting in the cancellation of the erasure shot that was heading toward him. That is all.

The Great Sage raised his right hand. A small light illuminated at its tip.

"This looks seriously bad!"
"Indeed."

Yogiri, a novice, had no way of knowing the potency of magical-like powers just by looking. However, the wild pressure it held was something anyone could feel.

"Let's call it the Erasure Bullet. If it hits, it erases the existence in the past, present, and future. Simply put, I just forget about you and don't remember."

"So, because this is your dream, if you forget about something, its existence disappears?"
"That's right. There's really no need to resort to this kind of method, but I thought it would add a bit of a challenge. It's about the speed a person would throw, so if you try hard, you can avoid it. Here it goes."

"Please wait!"
Volume 14, Chapter 17

“The Great Sage, as if he were playing catch, threw the ball of light.”

Volume 14, Chapter 17

“He had thrown an annihilation bullet, and Yogiri hadn't dodged it.

“Since he didn't remember the scene of the bullet hitting, it seemed to have turned into the current situation just before it hit.”

Volume 14, Chapter 17

"If you're asking, I have no choice but to answer. I will tell you. Takato Yogiri has severed the connection between you and the world."

"...What... does that mean...?"

He didn’t understand. He knew how to kill a living being. He barely understood how to kill a phenomenon like gravity. But what did it mean to kill a connection?

Imagine the world as someone’s dream—how could one escape its influence? You would need to sever your connection to the dream. You would need to lose the ability to manipulate it freely. That is what Takato Yogiri likely thought.

"...What does that mean...?"

I gave you an example involving a game earlier. Using that analogy, it’s as if your controller has been broken. In other words, you can no longer do anything.

Volume 14, Chapter 17

Hecky2222 said:
Whole context for people who are interested

As we can see, it was used only one time. So this doesn't prove how gods regenerate from Erasure Bold. To assume this is true: We should think Mitsuki uses his trump card everytime and Existence Erasure is rare thing in Verse. Which we can see it isn't. It is like saying any God from DB can survive Zeno's EE(Cringe analogy but you get point of "Best attack that isn't used more than one time" I hope).

This is Mitsuki’s ability, and it is not stated that he used it only once, and that is not even important anyway. What matters is that Mitsuki himself, who possesses this level of erasure, cannot kill the gods and instead only seals them, because the gods cannot be destroyed. Mitsuki did not want to see their faces again, which is why he only seals them, since killing them is impossible and they return.

In the Instant Death series, gods cannot be killed at all. Death is merely another state of existence for gods. They cannot be permanently destroyed by any means; it always ultimately ends with only sealing the god, and that is how battles are resolved. Otherwise, gods can be “killed,” but they will return again. Even Mitsuki himself, who possesses this level of erasure, is unable to permanently erase gods because they will come back. That is why he seals gods instead, since he does not want to see their faces again, as they will return as shown in the evidence above.

This topic has already been discussed and approved, and the person who made this thread has not provided anything new, so I will not elaborate further on this matter. Since Mitsuki himself hates gods to the extent that he does not want to see their faces, yet still states that he cannot kill them because they will return, he therefore seals them so he does not see them again.

Hecky2222 said:
But you can ask "Sure, but they have causality, information, conceptual erasure, why don't they use it against each other". Response to it was covered here perfectly:

But we don't say nuke it to LGR back. It was stated soul = mind in Instant Death. Meaning whoever on UEG level would get Mid Godly Regeneration

And based on this we should add this to Gods profile

I already responded to this incorrect point in the previous thread.

Note: Miranda is a god-slayer, and this is her ability. Therefore, Malna did not die from a normal stab, but rather from a god-killing ability using a sword capable of destroying gods. This would have been impossible if she had been fully alert. However, the issue is that Kouryu caused her to lose focus through Yogiri and the paradoxes of omnipotence, which made it easier for her to be stabbed from behind using a god-killing ability. That is all. Everything stated here has no validity.

Secondly, as an additional note, @Vietthai96 responded to this by saying that even if we assume she died from a stab, it would only represent a personal weakness and would not affect her possession of High-Godly regeneration in the first place, since she is still capable of returning. Having a weakness does not negate anything unless she is unable to return; only then would it be a valid reason to deny High-Godly regeneration. However, she still returns regardless. In the same context, the novel explicitly states that this is not the end and that Malna will return again. Therefore, everything stated here is incorrect, and this discussion is extremely frustrating.

Regarding immeasurable speed, I will respond to this issue later. It may take some time, so please wait until I finish and provide my full responses.

RaikiKurohane99 · May 1, 2026

Azertyhuuh said:
The High-Godly via history issue was already discussed and approved roughly 11 days ago.

Can you tell us the specific name? And can you also show where it is stated that it was used only once? Also, you said it didn’t work—why do you think that is? Because he attempted to attack Yogiri, and I already explained this point here; I will also repost the response below ↓

What happened here is that Mitsuki was going to erase Yogiri across the entire timeline (past, present, and future), as if he had never existed and would be completely forgotten. When Mitsuki prepared the erasure bullet in his hand, he threw it calmly and at a deliberately slow speed because he knew it could not be avoided; even if Yogiri tried to escape, it would follow him regardless. Yogiri was aware of this, so he opened his third gate and freed himself from all constraints. He then severed the connection between Mitsuki and his dream, which led to the loss of Mitsuki’s authority over the dream. This caused the erasure bullet to fail to reach Yogiri, since he had been disconnected from the dream, resulting in the cancellation of the erasure shot that was heading toward him. That is all.

This is Mitsuki’s ability, and it is not stated that he used it only once, and that is not even important anyway. What matters is that Mitsuki himself, who possesses this level of erasure, cannot kill the gods and instead only seals them, because the gods cannot be destroyed. Mitsuki did not want to see their faces again, which is why he only seals them, since killing them is impossible and they return.

First, it is stated that gods are indestructible; they can return from death and cannot be killed at all. Even if you kill or erase them, they will reappear again, and there is no way to permanently erase them. Thus, the victor always ends up sealing the god to win, because killing them is impossible, and sealing is what ends the conflict.

It is also stated that death for gods is merely another state of existence from which they eventually recover and return to life. Death and annihilation for gods are simply another phase of existence.

The Great Sage Mitsuki himself, who is capable of erasing a character’s entire history (past, present, and future), was unable to erase the gods. Mitsuki was forced to seal them instead, because gods would return even after being killed. Therefore, he had no choice but to seal them to deal with them. This further supports that such erasure is ineffective against gods.

In the Instant Death series, gods cannot be killed at all. Death is merely another state of existence for gods. They cannot be permanently destroyed by any means; it always ultimately ends with only sealing the god, and that is how battles are resolved. Otherwise, gods can be “killed,” but they will return again. Even Mitsuki himself, who possesses this level of erasure, is unable to permanently erase gods because they will come back. That is why he seals gods instead, since he does not want to see their faces again, as they will return as shown in the evidence above.

This topic has already been discussed and approved, and the person who made this thread has not provided anything new, so I will not elaborate further on this matter. Since Mitsuki himself hates gods to the extent that he does not want to see their faces, yet still states that he cannot kill them because they will return, he therefore seals them so he does not see them again.

I already responded to this incorrect point in the previous thread.

Note: Miranda is a god-slayer, and this is her ability. Therefore, Malna did not die from a normal stab, but rather from a god-killing ability using a sword capable of destroying gods. This would have been impossible if she had been fully alert. However, the issue is that Kouryu caused her to lose focus through Yogiri and the paradoxes of omnipotence, which made it easier for her to be stabbed from behind using a god-killing ability. That is all. Everything stated here has no validity.

Secondly, as an additional note, @Vietthai96 responded to this by saying that even if we assume she died from a stab, it would only represent a personal weakness and would not affect her possession of High-Godly regeneration in the first place, since she is still capable of returning. Having a weakness does not negate anything unless she is unable to return; only then would it be a valid reason to deny High-Godly regeneration. However, she still returns regardless. In the same context, the novel explicitly states that this is not the end and that Malna will return again. Therefore, everything stated here is incorrect, and this discussion is extremely frustrating.

Regarding immeasurable speed, I will respond to this issue later. It may take some time, so please wait until I finish and provide my full responses.

Do you have permission to comment?
If you don’t have it, you need to get it before commenting.
You can ask Butler or someone else.

Azertyhuuh · May 1, 2026

RaikiKurohane99 said:
Do you have permission to comment?
If you don’t have it, you need to get it before commenting.
You can ask Butler or someone else.

Yes, I have permission from Bambu , and I also don’t know what your issue with me is.

RaikiKurohane99 · May 1, 2026

Azertyhuuh said:
Yes, I have permission from Bambu

You need to state that you got permission from him at the beginning of your comment, and also mention where you requested it from him.

Hecky2222 · May 1, 2026

Does Azerty have permission in first place? I made this thread essentially for meaningful arguments rather than empty arguments(Which you did right now)

All of your points already covered in thread by @Ruler_Star_Kuma.

Azertyhuuh said:
This is Mitsuki’s ability, and it is not stated that he used it only once, and that is not even important anyway. What matters is that Mitsuki himself, who possesses this level of erasure, cannot kill the gods and instead only seals them, because the gods cannot be destroyed. Mitsuki did not want to see their faces again, which is why he only seals them, since killing them is impossible and they return.

First, it is stated that gods are indestructible; they can return from death and cannot be killed at all. Even if you kill or erase them, they will reappear again, and there is no way to permanently erase them. Thus, the victor always ends up sealing the god to win, because killing them is impossible, and sealing is what ends the conflict.

It is also stated that death for gods is merely another state of existence from which they eventually recover and return to life. Death and annihilation for gods are simply another phase of existence.

The Great Sage Mitsuki himself, who is capable of erasing a character’s entire history (past, present, and future), was unable to erase the gods. Mitsuki was forced to seal them instead, because gods would return even after being killed. Therefore, he had no choice but to seal them to deal with them. This further supports that such erasure is ineffective against gods.

In the Instant Death series, gods cannot be killed at all. Death is merely another state of existence for gods. They cannot be permanently destroyed by any means; it always ultimately ends with only sealing the god, and that is how battles are resolved. Otherwise, gods can be “killed,” but they will return again. Even Mitsuki himself, who possesses this level of erasure, is unable to permanently erase gods because they will come back. That is why he seals gods instead, since he does not want to see their faces again, as they will return as shown in the evidence above.

This topic has already been discussed and approved, and the person who made this thread has not provided anything new, so I will not elaborate further on this matter. Since Mitsuki himself hates gods to the extent that he does not want to see their faces, yet still states that he cannot kill them because they will return, he therefore seals them so he does not see them again.

All of them already addressed. If you didn't even get reason why Conceptual, Causal, Informational Nuke wasn't accepted and nuked in past. There was no evidence that erasure they can regen was from causality, concept, information in first place. Same goes for this. It would be Burden of Proof from you if you fail to prove how erasure is Erasure Bold(Cuz I presented you context and chapter already). There is simply no evidence of Mitsuki used strongest attack against any gods. And linking old arguments isn't counter to it.

Azertyhuuh said:
I already responded to this incorrect point in the previous thread.

None of this points address overall problem and fall under BoP again.

Also quoting Vietthai crazy when he literally agreed with point attacks with themselves mean nothing. I am just providing full context for "Historical Erasure". This also applies here. There is no proof they can regenerate from Erasure Bold.

Azertyhuuh said:
Yes, I have permission from Bambu , and I also don’t know what your issue with me is.

how you have permission from Bambu. Did you get it from DM? and be respectful with staff. Noone has problem with you, but arguments

Azertyhuuh · May 1, 2026

Hecky2222 said:
Does Azerty have permission in first place? I made this thread essentially for meaningful arguments rather than empty arguments(Which you did right now)

All of your points already covered in thread by @Ruler_Star_Kuma.

All of them already addressed. If you didn't even get reason why Conceptual, Causal, Informational Nuke wasn't accepted and nuked in past. There was no evidence that erasure they can regen was from causality, concept, information in first place. Same goes for this. It would be Burden of Proof from you if you fail to prove how erasure is Erasure Bold(Cuz I presented you context and chapter already). There is simply no evidence of Mitsuki used strongest attack against any gods. And linking old arguments isn't counter to it.

You are trying to manipulate people’s perception here by using phrases like (“strongest attack he has”), (“special name”), and (“only once”), while ignoring the fact that this is simply one of his abilities like any other character’s ability. It has nothing special about it other than erasing the target from history entirely, and that is all. And once again, it is just an ability. I also don’t understand how this is supposed to be a rebuttal.

I don’t understand what you mean by terms like (“strongest attack”) and (“special name”). It is simply an ability he possesses like any other character in an anime verse.

As is clearly shown, Mitsuki is unable to kill gods. The context is right in front of you: he hates gods to the point that he does not even want to see their faces, yet he still cannot kill them because they will return again. That is why he seals them instead, so he does not have to see them again. This is completely clear here.

"I believed it was also acceptable to kill you. You and the UEG both lost, so erasing you completely seemed appropriate. But Lord Mitsuki is kinder than I am."

"Kind? If he's so kind, why did he seal me away?!"

"He was kind in that he did not take your life. Then again, if he had, you would have just revived somewhere else, so if he wished to never see you again, sealing you away was perhaps the best option.

Hecky2222 said:
None of this points address overall problem and fall under BoP again.

Also quoting Vietthai crazy when he literally agreed with point attacks with themselves mean nothing. I am just providing full context for "Historical Erasure". This also applies here. There is no proof they can regenerate from Erasure Bold.

how you have permission from Bambu. Did you get it from DM? and be respectful with staff. Noone has problem with you, but arguments

Are you even discussing history or other arguments that haven’t been accepted at all…? This is very strange. The fact that you are now talking about concepts, information, and causality when they aren’t even present in the character profile is odd. I will not continue responding to you further on this matter. I think your arguments are related to history, and I have already said everything I had to say.

Hecky2222 · May 1, 2026

Azertyhuuh said:
You are trying to manipulate people’s perception here by using phrases like (“strongest attack he has”), (“special name”), and (“only once”), while ignoring the fact that this is simply one of his abilities like any other character’s ability. It has nothing special about it other than erasing the target from history entirely, and that is all. And once again, it is just an ability. I also don’t understand how this is supposed to be a rebuttal.

I don’t understand what you mean by terms like (“strongest attack”) and (“special name”). It is simply an ability he possesses like any other character in an anime verse.

As is clearly shown, Mitsuki is unable to kill gods. The context is right in front of you: he hates gods to the point that he does not even want to see their faces, yet he still cannot kill them because they will return again. That is why he seals them instead, so he does not have to see them again. This is completely clear here.

Abilities in Instant Death has been always straightforward. Erasure is question can be anything. Argument you are leaning towards assumes he doesn't have other Existence Erasure as I said in OP. Literally context you are cropping out and showing doesn't provide us where it is "Erasure BolT". Go on and search here "Erasure Bolt and call me when you find where essentially he used his best attack against anyone except Yogiri. Since you are even hiding chapter that covers quote i will show people here. And your context doesn't provide what you say after all(He hates gods thus wants to kill them all is your argument)

Kuma already explained it here already

However, I explicitly have the most problem right here. Mitsuki is a top of the line god, though this text specifies it as him likely giving the person being talked about some mercy, it's less there being no choice and more likely among the way Gods have gotten defeated before as described in this post, and not having defeated them to such an extent (history erasure) because of one missing piece of context left out.

That being, Mitsuki's history erasure works on.. himself as well. History Erasure, at least how Mitsuki defines his will have everyone not remember you upon being struck by it, even including from himself. It goes hand in hand with his control over his jurisdiction of a dream in that upon being forgotten by him, it is then one essentially gets hit with a sort of 'super erasure' due to them disappearing from his dream overall. Unless you can show that Gods can exist being erased so deeply to where they can disappear from his dream and come back.. just how exactly does this apply to every other god?

And after reading it, tell me how he knows fact his history erasure won't work on Gods when it supposed to wipe everything from history to point he doesn't even remember

Azertyhuuh said:
Are you even discussing history or other arguments that haven’t been accepted at all…? This is very strange. The fact that you are now talking about concepts, information, and causality when they aren’t even present in the character profile is odd. I will not continue responding to you further on this matter. I think your arguments are related to history, and I have already said everything I had to say.

I thought that was pretty straightforward comparison? If you didn't get why comparison is relevant:

There is no implication their history, concept, information got erased. For a verse that has always been so straightforward, that doesn't make any sense.

Also somewhat History Erasure affecting Mitsuki and other gods somewhat can be anti feat for Ac3 but that's for another time

Mr. Bambu · May 1, 2026

Azertyhuuh said:
Yes, I have permission from Bambu , and I also don’t know what your issue with me is.

You do not. You never requested permission and I never gave it.

RaikiKurohane99 · May 1, 2026

Mr. Bambu said:
You do not. You never requested permission and I never gave it.

It seems that he misunderstood what you said here:
https://vsbattles.com/threads/rule-violation-reports-new-forum.107529/post-7700495
Since you are here, could you grant commenting permission to both supporters and opponents?
I believe this side supports the thread author:
@Cipher72 , @Astral_Trinity439 , @Ruler_Star_Kuma
And this side opposes the thread author:
Azertyhuuh
And if there are other people who think they can help here, please mention them so that staff can grant them commenting permission.

Mr. Bambu · May 1, 2026

I am not sure. I will have to be leaving soon, and from the posts already sent by Azerty, they seem unnecessarily combative and accusatory (though, I have noted that the OP is similarly combative; this is not a good recipe for a staff thread). The purpose of the staff thread system is to cut through this very sort of dross, where unnecessary bickering bogs down the thread.

Because I will have to leave relatively soon, I will extend these permissions. Because I am a bureaucrat, these are unlimited permissions. These users may post freely on this thread. However, I am giving @Just a Random Butler the authority to rescind these permissions absolutely, in my absence, should anything become problematic.

Azertyhuuh · May 1, 2026

Hecky2222 said:
Abilities in Instant Death has been always straightforward. Erasure is question can be anything. Argument you are leaning towards assumes he doesn't have other Existence Erasure as I said in OP. Literally context you are cropping out and showing doesn't provide us where it is "Erasure BolT". Go on and search here "Erasure Bolt and call me when you find where essentially he used his best attack against anyone except Yogiri. Since you are even hiding chapter that covers quote i will show people here. And your context doesn't provide what you say after all(He hates gods thus wants to kill them all is your argument)

Kuma already explained it here already

And after reading it, tell me how he knows fact his history erasure won't work on Gods when it supposed to wipe everything from history to point he doesn't even remember

This is my final comment here regarding the issue of divine regeneration, and we will now see the staff’s judgment, because I have already stated everything I had to say.

First, you are trying to manipulate the information in the context and extract conclusions that do not exist in order to make everyone doubt the matter. Yes, as I said, you are presenting claims without a single piece of evidence.

You are trying to impose terms like (“strongest attack”), (“special name”), and (“used only once”), and all of these are your own assumptions that are not supported by any evidence in the novel. With these terms, you are attempting to mislead the staff. In reality, the matter is simple: it is just a normal ability possessed by a character in a work, with its own name, and that is all.
When you cannot find anything to object to, you start inventing contradictions and conclusions out of nothing.

It is never stated that this is his strongest attack, nor that it was only used against Yogiri. Mitsuki has lived for millions of years or more—did he personally tell you that he only used his ability against Yogiri? Did he personally tell you that it is his strongest attack? And even if that were the case, what is the problem with it?

You are overcomplicating things while ignoring the context, both you and the person supporting this claim.

For the last time: gods cannot be killed permanently except by Yogiri himself. Mitsuki himself is unable to kill gods because they will return. He hates them and only seals them so he does not see them again. He is completely unable to kill gods, which proves that his ability to erase existence and history will not work, because he is incapable of doing so.

This is not mercy or compassion. What the context means by “mercy” is simply that he cannot kill them, as you can see clearly in the context. That is why he seals them to avoid seeing them again. This is the “mercy” being referred to (meaning it is not actually mercy). It is, in fact, sarcasm within the context toward them.

"I believed it was also acceptable to kill you. You and the UEG both lost, so erasing you completely seemed appropriate. But Lord Mitsuki is kinder than I am."

"Kind? If he's so kind, why did he seal me away?!"

"He was kind in that he did not take your life. Then again, if he had, you would have just revived somewhere else, so if he wished to never see you again, sealing you away was perhaps the best option.

Hecky2222 said:
I thought that was pretty straightforward comparison? If you didn't get why comparison is relevant:

There is no implication their history, concept, information got erased. For a verse that has always been so straightforward, that doesn't make any sense.

Also somewhat History Erasure affecting Mitsuki and other gods somewhat can be anti feat for Ac3 but that's for another time

Causal-level erasure, complete erasure, and conceptual erasure are abilities that anyone in Instant Death can have. All characters possess these abilities, and the novel itself states that gods are completely indestructible; even if they are erased, destroyed, or anything else happens to them, they will return again because death for gods is merely another state of existence for them.

So are you trying to claim that a random low-tier character in Instant Death can permanently kill gods using causal, conceptual, or informational erasure? Are we now going to ignore the statements of the novel itself, and even Mitsuki’s own statements, who is stronger than high-tier gods like UEG, yet still unable to do anything against gods? Do you really think causal, conceptual, or informational erasure would work? Where is the logic in your argument? These abilities are available to basically any character in Instant Death. Are we supposed to assume that any random character can now permanently kill gods using causal or informational or even conceptual erasure?

You should know that everything you are saying here is completely wrong. As I said, this will be my last comment regarding divine regeneration, and now causal, informational, and conceptual aspects will also be included. In other words, your topic is now becoming an upgrade discussion, not just history anymore.
Causal, informational, and conceptual erasure have no effect on gods because such abilities are available to almost anyone in Instant Death. So are we now assuming that anyone in the verse can permanently kill gods? While ignoring all the context stated in the novel?

Causal, informational, and conceptual erasure will now be added alongside history, not just history alone.

Instant death. Reflection. Time stop. Time reversal. Spatial severance. Total erasure. Conceptual attacks. Causality erasure. Such things were possible for virtually anyone in the sea.

She had killed any number of gods, but death was just another state of being for them, one from which they would eventually recover.

Gods were fundamentally indestructible. Even if you killed or erased them, in time they would reappear. So in battles between gods, it was common for the winner to either enslave the loser or take measures to seal them away.

Information Manipulation (Type 2), Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2), Information Analysis & Reality Warping (Should capable of accessing the higher layer of information of the world.[10] Can manipulate the world's core, a condensation of information that defines the world and influences it.[11] By manipulating the world core, reality also will be impacted from it. Those with the authority of god[11] can freely manipulate the world, which is a conceptual structure.[12] Gods are capable of manipulating the underlying building blocks of reality.[13] Can manipulate the information that defines an individual's existence[3])

As everyone can see, the narrative establishes that gods are fundamentally indestructible (focus on the word “fundamentally”). This is the principle—the foundation of everything. It is a core aspect of the work. No one can kill the gods except a single individual, Takato Yogiri, who is the only one in the entire series capable of killing them permanently. Aside from that, not even the Great Sage or anyone else can accomplish this, even with possession of Type 2 information manipulation across multiple layers—being able to alter everything in the world through information, reshape it, change it, and even revive the gods themselves via layered Type 2 information manipulation. They also possess Type 2 conceptual manipulation, likewise across multiple layers, yet they remain incapable. Even conceptual-level killing is ineffective, such as Rick’s sword, which kills gods on a conceptual level.

If all characters can use these abilities, then the gods should be able to recover from all of them, since these powers are available to anyone and are considered basic within Instant Death. Naturally, such basic abilities would be resisted by the gods; otherwise, no one would have difficulty dealing with them. Any random person would be able to permanently kill the gods—even without being a god—since these are abilities accessible to everyone.

Hecky2222 · May 1, 2026

Azertyhuuh said:
This is my final comment here regarding the issue of divine regeneration, and we will now see the staff’s judgment, because I have already stated everything I had to say.

First, you are trying to manipulate the information in the context and extract conclusions that do not exist in order to make everyone doubt the matter. Yes, as I said, you are presenting claims without a single piece of evidence.

You are trying to impose terms like (“strongest attack”), (“special name”), and (“used only once”), and all of these are your own assumptions that are not supported by any evidence in the novel. With these terms, you are attempting to mislead the staff. In reality, the matter is simple: it is just a normal ability possessed by a character in a work, with its own name, and that is all.
When you cannot find anything to object to, you start inventing contradictions and conclusions out of nothing.

It is never stated that this is his strongest attack, nor that it was only used against Yogiri. Mitsuki has lived for millions of years or more—did he personally tell you that he only used his ability against Yogiri? Did he personally tell you that it is his strongest attack? And even if that were the case, what is the problem with it?

You are overcomplicating things while ignoring the context, both you and the person supporting this claim.

For the last time: gods cannot be killed permanently except by Yogiri himself. Mitsuki himself is unable to kill gods because they will return. He hates them and only seals them so he does not see them again. He is completely unable to kill gods, which proves that his ability to erase existence and history will not work, because he is incapable of doing so.

This is not mercy or compassion. What the context means by “mercy” is simply that he cannot kill them, as you can see clearly in the context. That is why he seals them to avoid seeing them again. This is the “mercy” being referred to (meaning it is not actually mercy). It is, in fact, sarcasm within the context toward them.

This is crazy cherry picking.

The fact he forgets about gods means he doesn't even remember if they can regenerate from it or not. This is not even hard to connect that erasure Alexia talking about is very different thing. How they would even remember the fact they can regenarate from Erasure Bold if it straight up erases past, present, future of character to point Gods forget that even. This is non-sequitur. It is clear she is talking about different thing that she knows and remembers.

Cases by cases:
1. Gods "erasure" and sealing isn't rare thing. Any god can erase another god, hence sealing is better option
2. Toichoru erased UEG, but she straight up came back from it
3. UEG was erased by Rick, but later we know she still comes back

All that just proves the thing Alexia talking to UEG, implies erasures don't work, since sealing has always been better option.

"I believed it was also acceptable to kill you. You and the UEG both lost, so erasing you completely seemed appropriate. But Lord Mitsuki is kinder than I am."

"Kind? If he's so kind, why did he seal me away?!"

"He was kind in that he did not take your life. Then again, if he had, you would have just revived somewhere else, so if he wished to never see you again, sealing you away was perhaps the best option.

This is obviously talking about existence erasure won't work not erasure bolt itself, seeing how UEG regenerated from previous attacks. Because it makes no sense, them knowing fact about "UEG can regen from History" when Bold erases even fact character is erased. This is not even hard to get. Unless you want to argue about it, it would straight up cancel fact of History Erasure being History Erasure in first place.

Azertyhuuh said:
As everyone can see, the narrative establishes that gods are fundamentally indestructible (focus on the word “fundamentally”). This is the principle—the foundation of everything. It is a core aspect of the work. No one can kill the gods except a single individual, Takato Yogiri, who is the only one in the entire series capable of killing them permanently. Aside from that, not even the Great Sage or anyone else can accomplish this, even with possession of Type 2 information manipulation across multiple layers—being able to alter everything in the world through information, reshape it, change it, and even revive the gods themselves via layered Type 2 information manipulation. They also possess Type 2 conceptual manipulation, likewise across multiple layers, yet they remain incapable. Even conceptual-level killing is ineffective, such as Rick’s sword, which kills gods on a conceptual level.

If all characters can use these abilities, then the gods should be able to recover from all of them, since these powers are available to anyone and are considered basic within Instant Death. Naturally, such basic abilities would be resisted by the gods; otherwise, no one would have difficulty dealing with them. Any random person would be able to permanently kill the gods—even without being a god—since these are abilities accessible to everyone

Nice attempt to switch theme to another one.

None of it addresses downgrade reasons nor @Ruler_Star_Kuma rebutalls. Nor any relevant to provide proof of how essentially they erase one aspect.

Azertyhuuh · May 1, 2026

Hecky2222 said:
This is crazy cherry picking.

The fact he forgets about gods means he doesn't even remember if they can regenerate from it or not. This is not even hard to connect that erasure Alexia talking about is very different thing. How they would even remember the fact they can regenarate from Erasure Bold if it straight up erases past, present, future of character to point Gods forget that even. This is non-sequitur. It is clear she is talking about different thing that she knows and remembers.

Cases by cases:
1. Gods "erasure" and sealing isn't rare thing. Any god can erase another god, hence sealing is better option
2. Toichoru erased UEG, but she straight up came back from it
3. UEG was erased by Rick, but later we know she still comes back

All that just proves the thing Alexia talking to UEG, implies erasures don't work, since sealing has always been better option.

This is obviously talking about existence erasure won't work not erasure bolt itself, seeing how UEG regenerated from previous attacks. Because it makes no sense, them knowing fact about "UEG can regen from History" when Bold erases even fact character is erased. This is not even hard to get. Unless you want to argue about it, it would straight up cancel fact of History Erasure being History Erasure in first place.

Nice attempt to switch theme to another one.

None of it addresses downgrade reasons nor @Ruler_Star_Kuma rebutalls. Nor any relevant to provide proof of how essentially they erase one aspect.

We’re back to those statements and personal interpretations that try to distort the context itself.

Once again, you’re bringing up conclusions that do not exist anywhere in the work. You’re not accepting the evidence.
In short: Mitsuki can erase a character at the level of history and possesses this ability, yet he is incapable of killing the gods because they will return. That is why he resorts to sealing them.

The narrative explicitly states that gods are fundamentally indestructible (focus on “fundamentally”). This is a core principle and internal logic of the story that cannot be bypassed. Therefore, in a fight against gods, one side must resort to sealing in order to win, because killing a god is pointless. This is exactly what Mitsuki—who has erasure on that level—does. Frankly, your argument is irrelevant: he is incapable of doing it, which means he is incapable. There is no need to claim he “didn’t use it” or “didn’t try”—he simply cannot. He never stated that, and there is no evidence in the novel supporting your claim; it’s just your own interpretation. The story clearly says he cannot kill the gods and therefore seals them, which aligns with the statement that gods are fundamentally indestructible. In battles against gods, you must take measures to seal them—nothing else.

Second, gods do not all return immediately upon being killed. As the novel also states, death is merely another state of existence for them, from which they will eventually recover. As I told you, they do not all come back instantly—the time it takes varies. There is a hierarchy among gods: higher gods like UEG can return in a single second after being completely killed and erased, whereas lower gods take much longer to return. That’s all there is to it.
When Mitsuki performs erasure at the level of history, he erases them completely as if they never existed at all. Even he himself will not remember them, because he erased them from all of history (would you remember something that never existed?). However, this does not refute anything. Authors may handle such concepts differently. Gods return to life on their own—they do not need to remember in order to come back. They will be resurrected, recover, and return. Death, for them, is simply another state of existence they recover from—like a wound healing on its own; even if you don’t think about it, it still heals. Also, after being destroyed at the level of history, their mind, soul, body, and history are all erased, so your point is irrelevant here. Once again, you’re ignoring the context. I keep repeating the same explanation, and you continue to insist on your own interpretation.

Yes—once again—gods return. Gods are fundamentally indestructible, for the thousandth time. The time it takes them to return varies depending on their rank. There is a hierarchy: higher gods like UEG can return in just one second after being completely destroyed and erased, unlike lower gods, which take much longer. This is even reflected in the profiles of lower gods, where it is stated that their high-level divine regeneration is not useful in combat.

Causality erasure, conceptual erasure, informational erasure, complete erasure, and the other abilities mentioned are all things available to anyone in Instant Death. They are basic abilities that everyone has—they were never significant to begin with. Gods are indestructible. Are you now trying to argue that any random person could permanently kill gods? The novel repeatedly emphasizes in countless contexts that gods are indestructible, that death is merely another state of existence, and that gods will eventually return. At the same time, these levels of erasure are common abilities, which means they are completely ineffective against them. Otherwise, anyone would be able to permanently kill gods.

Therefore, in this context, gods would also possess aspects such as returning from causality-level, conceptual, informational, and total erasure. In other words, this topic is about adding such aspects—and @Elizhaa , who is an expert on Instant Death, agrees with me on this point.

Hecky2222 · May 1, 2026

Azertyhuuh said:
Frankly, your argument is irrelevant: he is incapable of doing it, which means he is incapable. There is no need to claim he “didn’t use it” or “didn’t try”—he simply cannot. He never stated that, and there is no evidence in the novel supporting your claim; it’s just your own interpretation.

Hecky2222 said:
How they would even remember the fact they can regenarate from Erasure Bold if it straight up erases past, present, future of character to point Gods forget that even. This is non-sequitur

Your interpretation could work only if Gods were Acausal to Mitsuki erasure hence their statement proves not even his unique erasure bolt won't work against gods

As for sneaky tries of upgrade. Kuma already covered everything here. It is in OP too. I fail to see how your "upgrade proposal" counters any of SweetDao downgrade points, or Kuma's refutation. So I will just ignore it unless you bring good evidence.

At this point we will go at cycling. So let's wait for another people instead.

On side note I would ask permission for @sukuna171 and @Ihsjihahxu to write here if they have anything to say since they are supporters . Cuz I don't see thread going to anywhere with Azerty

Just a Random Butler · May 1, 2026

Hecky2222 said:
On side note I would ask permission for @sukuna171 and @Ihsjihahxu to write here if they have anything to say since they are supporters . Cuz I don't see thread going to anywhere with Azerty

@sukuna171 @Ihsjihahxu

If you have something you want to say, I'll allow you, but can only allow up to three posts for each of you. Please keep this in mind.

I'll be away for now, so keep the discussion civil and don't devolve it into pandemonium. If any issues arise, please contact a thread moderator or something.

For any thread moderators reviewing this (in case the discussion has really gone to hell), you can revoke posting privileges as you see fit.

Azertyhuuh · May 1, 2026

Hecky2222 said:
Your interpretation could work only if Gods were Acausal to Mitsuki erasure hence their statement proves not even his unique erasure bolt won't work against gods

As for sneaky tries of upgrade. Kuma already covered everything here. It is in OP too. I fail to see how your "upgrade proposal" counters any of SweetDao downgrade points, or Kuma's refutation. So I will just ignore it unless you bring good evidence.

At this point we will go at cycling. So let's wait for another people instead.

On side note I would ask permission for @sukuna171 and @Ihsjihahxu to write here if they have anything to say since they are supporters . Cuz I don't see thread going to anywhere with Azerty

As I said before, I will not repeat myself, and I do not see anything in your statements that refutes anything. Rather, you are forming conclusions that are not supported by any evidence.

Azertyhuuh · May 1, 2026

Just a Random Butler said:
@sukuna171 @Ihsjihahxu

If you have something you want to say, I'll allow you, but can only allow up to three posts for each of you. Please keep this in mind.

I'll be away for now, so keep the discussion civil and don't devolve it into pandemonium. If any issues arise, please contact a thread moderator or something.

For any thread moderators reviewing this (in case the discussion has really gone to hell), you can revoke posting privileges as you see fit.

Please refer to Elizhaa, as he is an expert on Instant Death.

Astral_Trinity439 · May 1, 2026

Azertyhuuh said:
As I said before, I will not repeat myself, and I do not see anything in your statements that refutes anything. Rather, you are forming conclusions that are not supported by any evidence.

Azertyhuuh said:
Please refer to Elizhaa, as he is an expert on Instant Death.

Kindly only make one big post at a time. You can for example combine both of these posts into one, instead of making two.

You can refresh the page before uploading your post to make sure there weren't any new posts while you were writing. Doing this will not reset what you wrote as the forum automatically saves whatever you wrote every few seconds.

This is to make sure the staff thread isn't filled with multiple posts from the same person in a row and also do not add extra post numbers to the page, and it will allow you to use your post permission effeciently (right now you have unlimited post perm, but this is also for future reference when you only have limited permission from staf)

Ihsjihahxu · May 1, 2026

Hecky2222 said:
Permission granted by @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless in discord

All credits goes to @Ruler_Star_Kuma, @RaikiKurohane99, @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless, @Hecky2222

So it isn't even secret over wiki flooded by ID larpers and we got wanks that taken out of context. Hence after discussion with UMR, we decided to make staff thread(In case prevent this thread from spam and arguments from mediatok larpers that doesn't even counter nor relevant to thread). So let's begin
Immeasurable Speed or what is it even?
Whole immeasurable speed chainscaling comes from this feat performed by Hedgehog in Volume 7 Chapter 23. At first glance, everything feels alright, until you look at context, which makes no sense if we think this feat performed by pure speed

OTL of Vol 7 Chapter 23

So first question to context of this scene will be "Was Hedgehog in past even or God who was fighting with dude simply performed attack to past? If second, then why tf Hedgehog who remains here in present should avoid attack by moving further into past. Unless it is just him manipulating his past-self to avoid that attack. This can be read even in OTL when you look at this: Within a limited space-time environment, the ability to alter phenomena was only natural for a god. So essentially ability to alter phenomena in context can't be speed, but rather it implies past manipulation. This is context. But what does RAW Translations tell us?

Raws of Vol 7 Chap 23

Translation by @RaikiKurohane99 in discord

As you can see, even in RAWs text straight up tells "it is past manipulation" instead of speed. This is textbook Causality Manipulation which can be meet often in verse, and we have in fiction similar abilities of past alteration

So Proposal 1 includes:
1. Hedgehog "Immeasurable Speed" will be changed to "Causality Manipulation", and everyone who was chainscaled to Hedgehog will lose this speed
2. Hedgehog and Top Tiers will be scaled to best speed calc feat.

I agree. No argument there.

Hecky2222 said:
Biggest Joke: History Regeneration
This thread aka our favorite LARPzerty managed to take everything out of context and now every god tier has High Godly Regeneration through History, eventhough it was stated multiple times by other users "History Regen is rare". If you are lazy to read. Let me bring up full context:

In very short version of context: History Erasure comes from special thing called "Erasure Bold". It was when Mitsuki was explaining that to Yogiri. This thing has own name "Erasure Bold" and was used only once. ONLY ONCE AND IT DIDN'T WORK.

Chapter 25 Volume 13

Whole context for people who are interested

As we can see, it was used only one time. So this doesn't prove how gods regenerate from Erasure Bold. To assume this is true: We should think Mitsuki uses his trump card everytime and Existence Erasure is rare thing in Verse. Which we can see it isn't. It is like saying any God from DB can survive Zeno's EE(Cringe analogy but you get point of "Best attack that isn't used more than one time" I hope).

But you can ask "Sure, but they have causality, information, conceptual erasure, why don't they use it against each other". Response to it was covered here perfectly:

But we don't say nuke it to LGR back. It was stated soul = mind in Instant Death. Meaning whoever on UEG level would get Mid Godly Regeneration

And based on this we should add this to Gods profile

So Proposal 2 includes:
1. History Regeneration Downgrade, as well it would include why any other regenerations not possible
2. As well stated above. Gods who are in UEG level would get Mid Godly Regeneration Overtime, whereas Yogiri would have MGR Negation
Finally additions
After all nuke, we can add something right?
Yogiri should get Causality Manipulation under his first gate, this would become "Greater Causality Manipulation" for his third gate as a result

TLDR:
1. History Regen will be changed to MGR
2. Immeasurable Speed will be changed to MFTL+
3. Addition to profile

Agree:
Disagree:
Neutral:

I've already talked about Erasure History before — that if it scales for gods, given that Mitsuki's ability was able to erase Yogiri, it should also work against conceptual attacks or anything of that nature. Either way, I have no reason to disagree with that.

Regarding Nep...

As I mentioned before, Nep1's page states that Nep1 is the state of 0 (Nonexistent) that has no existence. The example given is that a rock lacking a soul qualifies as Nep1.
It is not about being complete emptiness — it simply lacks the status of a Soul, which is what causes it to become Nonexistent.

Similarly in Volume 11, UEG erased the Existence of an unnamed god. All of his parallel selves disappeared.
However, UEG's belief is that no matter how many gods she kills, death is merely one state of existence — and in the end, the gods she killed will always revive and return.
The unnamed god, even though his existence was erased — if the dark sea, that place of emptiness, is the afterlife, then the unnamed god killed by UEG would simply pass into that afterlife, which is merely one state of being for them, and he would eventually revive. Perhaps he already has, somewhere else — just like Toichirou, who may have been revived in another location.
Since he has lost his Existence and resides in the afterlife, he could be considered a limited Nep1 for the afterlife.
All gods tend to have their data bound to the world in order to revive, even if they are not completely destroyed.
As with Malna:

"the world serving as the foundation for Malna's revival would cease to exist"

She has her data and is the controller of the world, and the world serves as the foundation for Malna's revival of existence.

The afterlife may not be Nothingness / Void / or any concept of absolute emptiness, etc.
It is simply a place that exists while lacking Existence.

Btw,I could say it two more times, and there's no need to argue — because in the end we're still going to disagree anyway.

However, the gods will be resurrected from the information that makes up their existence and binds them to the world, and is the foundation upon which they return to being.

sukuna171 · May 1, 2026

I agree with the MGR and Causality Manipulation parts. I’m not very knowledgeable about the immeasurable, but gods can move fast enough to travel into the past.

you’ve looked it over. Any thoughts? You’re wondering if it’s really invincible? You feel like there should still be some way of beating it? Did you truly understand what you saw in there? There were high-speed area saturation attacks against it, faster than can be perceived by humans. No, you definitely didn’t understand it. This isn’t an issue of it being faster than the speed of light. After all, the ultimate speed just means going backwards in time, right? But that wasn’t able to beat it either. It even stopped people from going back and trying to prevent it from being born. That’s why, no matter how powerful the god, they can’t do large-scale rewriting of the past. Any change that big might affect it. Those who didn’t understand that were erased for their hubris.

Astral_Trinity439 · May 1, 2026

sukuna171 said:
I agree with the MGR and Causality Manipulation parts. I’m not very knowledgeable about the immeasurable, but gods can move fast enough to travel into the past.

Do we have any example of this being done in the middle of combat? Like a god's attack going back into the past directly instead of though causality Manipulation?

And this bolded bit still makes me think it's just causality manip related stuff rather than speed:

you’ve looked it over. Any thoughts? You’re wondering if it’s really invincible? You feel like there should still be some way of beating it? Did you truly understand what you saw in there? There were high-speed area saturation attacks against it, faster than can be perceived by humans. No, you definitely didn’t understand it. This isn’t an issue of it being faster than the speed of light. After all, the ultimate speed just means going backwards in time, right? But that wasn’t able to beat it either. It even stopped people from going back and trying to prevent it from being born. That’s why, no matter how powerful the god, they can’t do large-scale rewriting of the past. Any change that big might affect it. Those who didn’t understand that were erased for their hubris.

Because it was the same with the hedgehog:

The attack that forcibly rewrites a determined (fixed) phenomenon, the hedgehog Hedgehog dealt with it by further manipulating his past self.
The alteration of phenomena within a limited spacetime is a skill that, if one is a god, can naturally be done. If one cannot fight at that dimension, there is no qualification to fight a god.

And can I get the volume/chap number for your scan? I'd like to check its raws as part of the reason why Immeasurable speed was accepted for the hedgehog was a mistranslation in the otl :d

Hecky2222 · May 1, 2026

Ihsjihahxu said:
Regarding Nep...

As I mentioned before, Nep1's page states that Nep1 is the state of 0 (Nonexistent) that has no existence. The example given is that a rock lacking a soul qualifies as Nep1.
It is not about being complete emptiness — it simply lacks the status of a Soul, which is what causes it to become Nonexistent.

Similarly in Volume 11, UEG erased the Existence of an unnamed god. All of his parallel selves disappeared.
However, UEG's belief is that no matter how many gods she kills, death is merely one state of existence — and in the end, the gods she killed will always revive and return.
The unnamed god, even though his existence was erased — if the dark sea, that place of emptiness, is the afterlife, then the unnamed god killed by UEG would simply pass into that afterlife, which is merely one state of being for them, and he would eventually revive. Perhaps he already has, somewhere else — just like Toichirou, who may have been revived in another location.
Since he has lost his Existence and resides in the afterlife, he could be considered a limited Nep1 for the afterlife.
All gods tend to have their data bound to the world in order to revive, even if they are not completely destroyed.
As with Malna:

I suppose thats for different ongoing thread. Since we are not opposing NEP here rn.

sukuna171 said:
I agree with the MGR and Causality Manipulation parts. I’m not very knowledgeable about the immeasurable, but gods can move fast enough to travel into the past.

Astral already covered it, so probably we need more context for immeasurable speed. Do we have raws or chapter, volume number for this btw? I would like to see them

On other note i would like to say Immeasurable Attack Speed might be possible for Yogiri(Or something like that) since I discussed it with @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless and @Cipher72 off-site today. I guess UMR will present supposed to be "argument" for Attack Speed soon.

sukuna171 · May 1, 2026

Hecky2222 said:
I suppose thats for different ongoing thread. Since we are not opposing NEP here rn.

Astral already covered it, so probably we need more context for immeasurable speed. Do we have raws or chapter, volume number for this btw? I would like to see them

On other note i would like to say Immeasurable Attack Speed might be possible for Yogiri(Or something like that) since I discussed it with @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless and @Cipher72 off-site today. I guess UMR will present supposed to be "argument" for Attack Speed soon.

Astral_Trinity439 said:
Do we have any example of this being done in the middle of combat? Like a god's attack going back into the past directly instead of though causality Manipulation?

And this bolded bit still makes me think it's just causality manip related stuff rather than speed:

Because it was the same with the hedgehog:

And can I get the volume/chap number for your scan? I'd like to check its raws as part of the reason why Immeasurable speed was accepted for the hedgehog was a mistranslation in the otl :d

It’s from volume 15, at the end, where the ultimate god is talking about V-Road and Yogiri, true form.

Azertyhuuh · May 1, 2026

Astral_Trinity439 said:
Do we have any example of this being done in the middle of combat? Like a god's attack going back into the past directly instead of though causality Manipulation?

And this bolded bit still makes me think it's just causality manip related stuff rather than speed:

Because it was the same with the hedgehog:

And can I get the volume/chap number for your scan? I'd like to check its raws as part of the reason why Immeasurable speed was accepted for the hedgehog was a mistranslation in the otl :d

The Ultimate God—he is the Ultimate God. There is no statement above his, and nothing can contradict him. The Ultimate God himself stated that absolute speed would never be enough to defeat Yogiri. No matter what you do, you will not win against him, even if you use absolute speed.

I think you understand what “absolute speed” means. And this is the word of the Ultimate God—there is nothing above it.

Azertyhuuh · May 1, 2026

Hecky2222 said:
Permission granted by @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless in discord

All credits goes to @Ruler_Star_Kuma, @RaikiKurohane99, @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless, @Hecky2222

So it isn't even secret over wiki flooded by ID larpers and we got wanks that taken out of context. Hence after discussion with UMR, we decided to make staff thread(In case prevent this thread from spam and arguments from mediatok larpers that doesn't even counter nor relevant to thread). So let's begin
Immeasurable Speed or what is it even?
Whole immeasurable speed chainscaling comes from this feat performed by Hedgehog in Volume 7 Chapter 23. At first glance, everything feels alright, until you look at context, which makes no sense if we think this feat performed by pure speed

OTL of Vol 7 Chapter 23

So first question to context of this scene will be "Was Hedgehog in past even or God who was fighting with dude simply performed attack to past? If second, then why tf Hedgehog who remains here in present should avoid attack by moving further into past. Unless it is just him manipulating his past-self to avoid that attack. This can be read even in OTL when you look at this: Within a limited space-time environment, the ability to alter phenomena was only natural for a god. So essentially ability to alter phenomena in context can't be speed, but rather it implies past manipulation. This is context. But what does RAW Translations tell us?

Raws of Vol 7 Chap 23

Translation by @RaikiKurohane99 in discord

As you can see, even in RAWs text straight up tells "it is past manipulation" instead of speed. This is textbook Causality Manipulation which can be meet often in verse, and we have in fiction similar abilities of past alteration

So Proposal 1 includes:
1. Hedgehog "Immeasurable Speed" will be changed to "Causality Manipulation", and everyone who was chainscaled to Hedgehog will lose this speed
2. Hedgehog and Top Tiers will be scaled to best speed calc feat.

I don’t agree with what was stated in the topic regarding immeasurable speed, for the following reasons ↓

Just die!" The Hedgehog's right arm was twisted off and blown away. "So you can even dodge that?!"

Although she seemed furious at first, the wo-man howled with glee upon seeing the Hedge-hog's response. She had performed an attack on the past. The Hedgehog responded to the at-tack by moving even further into the past, par-tially avoiding the attack that had forcibly rew-ritten an already determined outcome. Within a limited space-time environment, the ability to alter phenomena was only natural for a god. If one couldn't fight on that level, they had no business fighting a god. For the Hedgehog, who had been designed specifically to fight against gods, such an ability was a necessary function.

As everyone can see, the Hedgehog was able, through its speed, to evade an attack originating from the past itself by moving across time and avoiding the attack. I won’t go on for long, but this passage seems to explain everything.

Hecky2222 · May 1, 2026

Astral_Trinity439 said:
And can I get the volume/chap number for your scan? I'd like to check its raws as part of the reason why Immeasurable speed was accepted for the hedgehog was a mistranslation in the otl :d

I tried to search bit, and context seems like says somewhat, "It is time travel"

Raws:

アーカイブを一通り見たね。感想はある？本当に無敵なのかって？いくらでもやりようはあるように思える？本当にアーカイブの内容を見て理解できたのかい？認識できないぐらいの超速度による飽和攻撃？いや、何というか、やっぱり理解できてないんじゃないかな。光より速いとかそういう問題じゃないんだよ。だってさ、究極的に速いとなると過去に戻るなんてことになるだろ？で、それでも勝てないんだよ。なぜなら過去改変されてアレが生まれてこないという結果をアレは許さないからだ。これらの事実から、大規模な過去改変はどれほど有能な神であっても不可能なんだ。なぜならその改変がアレに影響を及ぼすかもしれないからだよ。そのあたりをわかってなかった神が調子に乗ってたまに消えてるね。ん？アーカイブ内でも言及されていた人質作戦は有効なのではないかって？別にいいけどさ、最強を目指すバトルマニアが人質作戦ってせこくない？アイデンティティ崩壊してないかな？なるほどなるほど。人質が通用するなんてメンタルは甘いと。

Buuuuuut. I think I agree with Astral. Cuz line itself seems too vague enough. It looks like Ultimate God telling us Ultimate God is Acausal(Immune to changes in past) rather than Gods being capable of doing it. So I am certainly not against immeasurable speed via this. But obviously we need some feat that backups this claim

Azertyhuuh said:
I don’t agree with what was stated in the topic regarding immeasurable speed, for the following reasons ↓

As everyone can see, the Hedgehog was able, through its speed, to evade an attack originating from the past itself by moving across time and avoiding the attack. I won’t go on for long, but this passage seems to explain everything.

You failed to counter OP again.

RaikiKurohane99 · May 1, 2026

Hecky2222 said:
アーカイブを一通り見たね。感想はある？本当に無敵なのかって？いくらでもやりようはあるように思える？本当にアーカイブの内容を見て理解できたのかい？認識できないぐらいの超速度による飽和攻撃？いや、何というか、やっぱり理解できてないんじゃないかな。光より速いとかそういう問題じゃないんだよ。だってさ、究極的に速いとなると過去に戻るなんてことになるだろ？で、それでも勝てないんだよ。なぜなら過去改変されてアレが生まれてこないという結果をアレは許さないからだ。これらの事実から、大規模な過去改変はどれほど有能な神であっても不可能なんだ。なぜならその改変がアレに影響を及ぼすかもしれないからだよ。そのあたりをわかってなかった神が調子に乗ってたまに消えてるね。ん？アーカイブ内でも言及されていた人質作戦は有効なのではないかって？別にいいけどさ、最強を目指すバトルマニアが人質作戦ってせこくない？アイデンティティ崩壊してないかな？なるほどなるほど。人質が通用するなんてメンタルは甘いと。

You looked through the archive once, right. Do you have any impressions?
You’re wondering if it is truly invincible?
Does it seem like there are any number of ways to deal with it?
Did you really look at the contents of the archive and understand them?
A saturation attack by super speed so fast it cannot even be perceived?
No, how should I put it, I think you still don’t understand.
It’s not a matter of being faster than light or anything like that.
Because, you see, if it becomes ultimately fast, it would mean going back to the past, right?
And even then, you still can’t win.
That’s because it will not allow the result where it is not born due to past alteration.
From these facts, large scale alteration of the past is impossible no matter how capable a god may be.
Because that alteration might affect it.
Gods who didn’t understand that tend to get carried away and sometimes disappear.
Hm?
You’re saying that the hostage strategy mentioned in the archive could be effective?
Well, it’s fine, but isn’t it petty for a battle maniac aiming to be the strongest to use a hostage strategy?
Wouldn’t that be an identity collapse?
I see, I see. So you’re saying that a mentality where hostages would work is naive.

Azertyhuuh said:
As everyone can see, the Hedgehog was able, through its speed, to evade an attack originating from the past itself by moving across time and avoiding the attack. I won’t go on for long, but this passage seems to explain everything.

This translation is incorrect (read the topic carefully).

Duedate8898 · May 1, 2026

For what reason is this a staff thread and not a normal CRT? I see little reason for this to be in this section when this looks like a standard downgrade thread. Unless there's an established history of these threads being unable to function due to supporters cluttering them up, adding such a barrier to engagement is just in poor taste. Especially if this verse has otherwise not been a problem for staff.

Astral_Trinity439 · May 1, 2026

Hecky2222 said:
I tried to search bit, and context seems like says somewhat, "It is time travel"

Raws:

アーカイブを一通り見たね。感想はある？本当に無敵なのかって？いくらでもやりようはあるように思える？本当にアーカイブの内容を見て理解できたのかい？認識できないぐらいの超速度による飽和攻撃？いや、何というか、やっぱり理解できてないんじゃないかな。光より速いとかそういう問題じゃないんだよ。だってさ、究極的に速いとなると過去に戻るなんてことになるだろ？で、それでも勝てないんだよ。なぜなら過去改変されてアレが生まれてこないという結果をアレは許さないからだ。これらの事実から、大規模な過去改変はどれほど有能な神であっても不可能なんだ。なぜならその改変がアレに影響を及ぼすかもしれないからだよ。そのあたりをわかってなかった神が調子に乗ってたまに消えてるね。ん？アーカイブ内でも言及されていた人質作戦は有効なのではないかって？別にいいけどさ、最強を目指すバトルマニアが人質作戦ってせこくない？アイデンティティ崩壊してないかな？なるほどなるほど。人質が通用するなんてメンタルは甘いと。

Buuuuuut. I think I agree with Astral. Cuz line itself seems too vague enough. It looks like Ultimate God telling us Ultimate God is Acausal(Immune to changes in past) rather than Gods being capable of doing it. So I am certainly not against immeasurable speed via this. But obviously we need some feat that backups this claim

You failed to counter OP again.

RaikiKurohane99 said:
You looked through the archive once, right. Do you have any impressions?
You’re wondering if it is truly invincible?
Does it seem like there are any number of ways to deal with it?
Did you really look at the contents of the archive and understand them?
A saturation attack by super speed so fast it cannot even be perceived?
No, how should I put it, I think you still don’t understand.
It’s not a matter of being faster than light or anything like that.
Because, you see, if it becomes ultimately fast, it would mean going back to the past, right?
And even then, you still can’t win.
That’s because it will not allow the result where it is not born due to past alteration.
From these facts, large scale alteration of the past is impossible no matter how capable a god may be.
Because that alteration might affect it.
Gods who didn’t understand that tend to get carried away and sometimes disappear.
Hm?
You’re saying that the hostage strategy mentioned in the archive could be effective?
Well, it’s fine, but isn’t it petty for a battle maniac aiming to be the strongest to use a hostage strategy?
Wouldn’t that be an identity collapse?
I see, I see. So you’re saying that a mentality where hostages would work is naive.

This translation is incorrect (read the topic carefully).

Yeah based on Raiki's translation, I think it's just time travel. They don't talk about it in context to actual real-time combat.

Hecky2222 said:
Ultimate God telling us Ultimate God is Acausal

I checked the bigger context, It's talking about our yogurt btw.
Basically because Yogiri's true form is omnipresent, even if a God travels to the past to stop Yogiri from being born, said god will die (due to yogurt's ability to kill anything that has the intention to harm it)

Edit:

Duedate8898 said:
For what reason is this a staff thread and not a normal CRT? I see little reason for this to be in this section when this looks like a standard downgrade thread. Unless there's an established history of these threads being unable to function due to supporters cluttering them up, adding such a barrier to engagement is just in poor taste. Especially if this verse has otherwise not been a problem for staff.

The past threads are quite literally just cluttered with Azerty being rude to anyone who opposes him, and other members not taking him seriously due to it.

This is to prevent that from happening, and to make sure both sides are serious.

Edit again: here's an example:

Adding NEP 1 to the gods; NEP 2 and AC5 to the End; AC4 and nonexistence erasure (Nature Type 1) to Yogiri—along with all aspects.

Hello everyone, in this thread NEP 1 will be added to the gods, NEP 2 to the End, AC5 to the End, AC4 to Yogiri, and nonexistence erasure (Nature Type 1). I ask everyone to stay as focused on the topic as possible so it doesn’t extend into many unnecessary pages. Otherwise, I may have to report...

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Ruler_Star_Kuma · May 1, 2026

Duedate8898 said:
Unless there's an established history of these threads being unable to function due to supporters cluttering them up,

this is EXACTLY why it's a staff thread.

Azertyhuuh · May 1, 2026

What happened is that the god launched an attack into the past, and the Hedgehog moved with immeasurable speed further into the past afterward in order to avoid that attack (note the word “moved”). The text says that he moved, not that he altered the past, and I think this is something you are overlooking. This is what supports the Hedgehog having immeasurable speed, since he is able to move across all of time and avoid attacks that target him in the past. Again, the text says he “moved,” not that he changed the past; he moved further into the past to evade the attack, and the text is clear. He moved at a speed that even precedes an attack from the past in order to avoid it, and that is exactly the definition of immeasurable speed.

Just die!” The Hedgehog’s right arm was twisted off and blown away. “So you can even dodge that?!”
Although she seemed furious at first, the woman howled with glee upon seeing the Hedgehog’s response. She had performed an attack on the past. The Hedgehog responded to the attack by moving even further into the past, partially avoiding the attack that had forcibly rewritten an already determined outcome. Within a limited space-time environment, the ability to alter phenomena was only natural for a god. If one couldn’t fight on that level, they had no business fighting a god. For the Hedgehog, who had been designed specifically to fight against gods, such an ability was a necessary function.

I do not agree with everything the thread author said, whether regarding immeasurable speed or high godly regeneration.

Ruler_Star_Kuma · May 1, 2026

Agreeing with an incorrectly translated scan just to get an 'immeasurable' speed feat that don't exist is crazy behavior by the way.

This won't end less this thread just gets checked.. there's no limit to the thread title being true.

RaikiKurohane99 · May 1, 2026

Azertyhuuh said:
What happened is that the god launched an attack into the past, and the Hedgehog moved with immeasurable speed further into the past afterward in order to avoid that attack (note the word “moved”). The text says that he moved, not that he altered the past, and I think this is something you are overlooking. This is what supports the Hedgehog having immeasurable speed, since he is able to move across all of time and avoid attacks that target him in the past. Again, the text says he “moved,” not that he changed the past; he moved further into the past to evade the attack, and the text is clear. He moved at a speed that even precedes an attack from the past in order to avoid it, and that is exactly the definition of immeasurable speed.

I do not agree with everything the thread author said, whether regarding immeasurable speed or high godly regeneration.

If you have not read the entire topic or did not notice my previous note, let me clarify the matter directly:
The translation you are currently relying on has proven to be inaccurate, and therefore it is best not to use it.
If you continue repeating the same thing again and again, your permission to post can be revived by @Just a Random Butler

Azertyhuuh · May 1, 2026

RaikiKurohane99 said:
If you have not read the entire topic or did not notice my previous note, let me clarify the matter directly:
The translation you are currently relying on has proven to be inaccurate, and therefore it is best not to use it.
If you continue repeating the same thing again and again, your permission to post can be revived by @Just a Random Butler

Who told you it is not correct? Do you think that just because you are a translator you can decide what is right and wrong? I don’t even understand how you became a translator in the first place, since you only joined here two or three months ago anyway. To be more honest with you, I don’t trust your translations because I am not comfortable with a member who joined only two months ago becoming a translator, and I also have a lot of doubts about you.

Astral_Trinity439 · May 1, 2026

Azertyhuuh said:
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If you have a problem with a translator and them being a staff, go to the Human Resources group (@SomebodyData and @Qawsedf234 are examples). This kind of discussion should NOT be in a CRT.

@Just a Random Butler I think the above post has no contribution to the CRT and should be deleted.

Azertyhuuh · May 1, 2026

Astral_Trinity439 said:
If you have a problem with a translator and them being a staff, go to the Human Resources group (@SomebodyData and @Qawsedf234 are examples). This kind of discussion should NOT be in a CRT.

@Just a Random Butler I think the above post has no contribution to the CRT and should be deleted.

I have the right to request another translator for the translation here. I do not trust the translations he provides, so I want an established translator who is trusted here. This translator joined three or four months ago and became a translator after about two weeks of joining, or slightly more, and because of that I cannot trust him or his translations. That is all.

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