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lol no
< 1c would be lesser than
Ay and Garra are both FTL in this key, so that makes no sense.
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Katsuki Bakugo vs The Five Kage [10-7-0]
- Thread starter MochOath
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< 1c would be lesser than
Ay and Garra are both FTL in this key, so that makes no sense.
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< 1c would mean 1c is lesser than something
.> 1c means 1c is greater then something
for example
0.8c < 1c for 1c being greater than
1.2c > 1c for 1c being lesser than
ask OP atp
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No it isn't???
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The crocodile eats the bigger number.
The OP is saying they're greater than 1c. Just read their profiles, if they were less than 1c, they wouldn't be FTL like their profiles show.
This isn't an opinion, this is how these symbols work in math.
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Ragebait?
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.> 1c is the crocodile eating the bigger number i literally say this is my post so idk what ur saying
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0.8c < 1c for 1c being greater than
1.2c > 1c for 1c being lesser than
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but sure i guess let them be ftl but it dont really matter imo
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I am trying to figure out if you overestimated Bakugoe or underestimated the five Madara victims?
Either way, the team of 5 FRA.
Either way, the team of 5 FRA.
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We here arguing inequality signs huh?
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Honestly Idk where or what we are debating at this point, but I am here for it.
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Because he was fighting on par with Shoto and Deku against Dark Might, Shigaraki considered him just enough of a threat to go out of his way to cripple him, he was still compared to Endeavor directly by AFO while he was literally half dead and starting to run out of stamina, etc. He has plenty of reasoning to be 6-B at the least.
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V2 Ay speedblitzes ngl.
Sasuke reacted to Mifune's light speed sword slash with just his Sharingan. The Mangekyo is vastly superior to a 3T Sharingan in all aspects. And that MS Sasuke cannot visually track V2 Ay in any way despite having superior eyes to the one that helped him dodge an SoL slash. Raikage is just that fast.
Sasuke reacted to Mifune's light speed sword slash with just his Sharingan. The Mangekyo is vastly superior to a 3T Sharingan in all aspects. And that MS Sasuke cannot visually track V2 Ay in any way despite having superior eyes to the one that helped him dodge an SoL slash. Raikage is just that fast.
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How is it?
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Bakugo blitzes people who are faster than 1.86c since he perception blitzed quirkless Complete Shiggy who scales above AFO in all regards
Quirkless Shiggy scales higher than A4's base speed by nearly 2 times
Bakugo's base explosions scale to 18.65 teratons, Howitzer one shots people on that level, Cluster is stronger than that, and both can be combined to be even more devastating
I don't see A even getting close to Bakugo without instantly dying. Heat resistance is very valid but he just gets 1 shot by the blunt force trauma. It's an explosion, not just fire. None of the others are really relevant since they're all just victims to Bakugo's speed even with Onoki's amp
Even if you argue that A blitzes with Onoki's amp, Onoki himself doesn't scale to this even with his own amp, and A can't restrain Bakugo without being blown to smithereens. Bakugo is so much stronger than A that he can honestly just ignore him; his full body explosions prevent A from ever getting close enough to do anything and he just nukes the rest of the team. Once Onoki goes down it's a clean sweep
voting Bakugo
Quirkless Shiggy scales higher than A4's base speed by nearly 2 times
Bakugo's base explosions scale to 18.65 teratons, Howitzer one shots people on that level, Cluster is stronger than that, and both can be combined to be even more devastating
I don't see A even getting close to Bakugo without instantly dying. Heat resistance is very valid but he just gets 1 shot by the blunt force trauma. It's an explosion, not just fire. None of the others are really relevant since they're all just victims to Bakugo's speed even with Onoki's amp
Even if you argue that A blitzes with Onoki's amp, Onoki himself doesn't scale to this even with his own amp, and A can't restrain Bakugo without being blown to smithereens. Bakugo is so much stronger than A that he can honestly just ignore him; his full body explosions prevent A from ever getting close enough to do anything and he just nukes the rest of the team. Once Onoki goes down it's a clean sweep
voting Bakugo
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Voting Bakugo (reasons: @Mickey1940 )
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Why he blitz above his value
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Considering shigaraki scales to ftl by keeping up with bakugo then I don't know how I'm supposed to believe this. 1.6c and 1c is not much of a speed gap and it becomes no existent the moment ohnoki amps at. He might even be faster
We're talking about V2
Here's the thing. They are able to fight full body susanoo, I mean the 5 kage and even 5 clones of it. For context full body susanoo is >4 petatons. Granted most of what they fought are clones but they scale so far above 7 petatons and were doing fine so bakugo even damaging them would be nigh impossible. He'd still loose this pretty easily
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We do not scale the Five Kage to Madara's Susano'o. If we did then they would be High 6-A, not 6-B.
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Who said they did???
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Shigaraki scales to FTL by keeping up with Bakugo, but in the frame that justifies it, Bakugo perception blitzed him. He managed to get behind Shigaraki from several meters away before Shiggy even realized what was happening. Sure, Shiggy did instantly kill him afterwards but it just goes to show how comparable they are to each other
Meanwhile, the actual feat that they scale to comes from Armored All Might, who was able to fight somewhat evenly with Rewind All For One, who still showed superiority in almost every aspect and was only riled up the way he was due to his previous emotional attachments to All Might and One For All as a whole
Bakugo, after being revived and understanding more about his quirk, perception blitzed this same AFO and caught up to him by accident (due to lack of full control over his quirk's new understanding) multiple times, and that AFO is faster than the 1.68 FTL Armored All Might
so Bakugo and anyone who scales to or above him are blitz levels above 1.68 c. He should be able to keep up with Onoki-enhanced V2 A4, since Onoki's amp is blitz level, but Bakugo is already blitz-level from a higher starting value
apologies
Quirkless Shiggy scales higher than A4's V2 speed by nearly 2 times
you're proving my point here. A4's V2 is calc'd at 1c, while Quirkless Shiggy keeps up with people who blitzes people who nearly killed someone who is 1.68c
All of the Kage with Onoki's support buffs scale significantly above 7 teratons, to the extent that it's basically a 1 shot difference. However:
even with Onoki's Enhancement, Bakugo still vastly outperforms all of the Kage since he has 1 shot scaling by virtue of his own techniques. Even if you argue that Cluster isn't much different than his base explosions in this key, Bakugo regularly spams and sets up Howitzers easily, especially since he has the advantage of massive AOE, significantly better mobility and overall speed, and Stun Grenade is extremely hilarious. Substitution and Illusions don't really help here cuz Bakugo just doesn't care and regularly carpet bombs his surroundings, especially with Strafe Panzer adding to the barrage.
Onoki can't use both his lightweight buff and his heavyweight buff on someone at the same time (since it would just cancel out each other) meaning the instant Onoki has to switch between light and heavy, Bakugo just blasts whoever just lost the speed with a billion attacks and they get taken out. There's also the issue that his profile apparently doesn't allow it to use it on himself (which I know is wrong), but even if he could he's starting at a value of 0.14c. There's really nothing Onoki himself can do unless Bakugo is restrained and Onoki uses Particle Style to take him out instantly, but there isn't anything the Kage can actually do to restrain him since Bakugo constantly blows himself up and is much stronger than all of the Kage. Anything they do to restrain him doesn't work (heavy buffed V2 A4 or Tsunade pinning him down = Bakugo just blasts them gg, Gaara sand = Bakugo is stronger so he just escapes gg, and they have literally nothing else, and that's assuming Bakugo lets them get close with his significant speed advantage), so Bakugo has completely free reign to just take out Onoki as collateral damage, and then after that the Kage lose their only wincon.
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This whole thing is contradictory. If he blitz shigaraki then shigaraki shouldn't scale to him. If shigaraki was still able to kill him afterwards then it just means he previous scene shigaraki wasn't concentrating that much
No he didn't, he outpaced him, stop calling everything a perception blitz. It's even right there on his profile
Even the raikage without being enhanced would be able to keep up with hin
That's wrong. A4 isn't called at 1c. He is able to perception blitz a mangyeko sharingan Sasuke. For context a base sharingan Sasuke is able to perceive and react to a light speed attack just fine. So basically it's A4>>>>> ms perception>>> sharingan perception
It's without the buff. As in all of them were each fighting several clones of a full bodies susanoo. Bear in mind that he original is High 6 A. Even the worst downscaling I don't see how shigaraki would hurt them much. Tsunade also directly destroyed it. In fact tsunade is probably his worst nightmare.
There's close to nothing he can do to significantly damage her to overpower her regen and any hit from her is lethal
You're forgetting one key detail about range. When ohnoki is at full power he can unleash a particle style that is almost as big as a full susanoo and significantly wider. That's a wide range attack so lethal that it would be almost impossible for bakugo to dodge.
Not to mention that he can directly spawn the particles style on you coz that's pretty much what he did on sasuke at close range.
Bear in mind Sasuke has ftl reactions here.
Gaara automatic sand would be the biggest protectors of the kages her while ohnoki and he raikage just keeps bakugo busy. Once tsunade lands a hit it's pretty much over.
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They are directly comparable to each other, as I said in the same paragraph
He caught him off guard and was signnificantly outspeeding him
multiple times, even though he's forced to slow down by going THROUGH buildings instead of around them
Bakugo is faster than AFO who is faster than Armored All Might who is 1.68c
that's fair enough, so A's V2 speed should be comparable to Bakugo's scaling chain
then why are they all 7 teratons on their profile? If they were all able to keep up with multiple High 6As then why make this match to begin with?
A Full Susanoo is about the size of a building if not smaller
Bakugo's regular explosions even back in the Sports Festival can fill the arena with fire, and his Howitzers are the size of city blocks, and he can react to people who can also make massive attacks. Consiering Onoki's lack of speed I don't see him being able to hit Bakugo with this
I'm using the stats that the OP added to the beginning of the thread, and their profiles don't mention them scaling to High 6A Susanoo's. If they truly all scale to High 6A then the match just gets closed since Bakugo can't hurt any of them
But if we keep them at their 7 teraton level then Bakugo just 1 shots all of them since he has multiple 1 shot amps above his base value. Nothing they can do can restrain him, even if you argue that Onoki boosted V2 A4 can blitz Bakugo, he's so weak that Bakugo can literally just ignore him and go after Onoki, Mei, and Tsunade who are all too slow to do anything even with Onoki's amp
As for Tsunade, her regeneration doesn't really matter since if she's still treated as 7 Teratons then Bakugo blows her head off and that's literally it.
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Speed this, speed that
">" and "<" that we learned on 4th grade are leading to complications
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And i saw no proper answer to the A and Ōnoki combo, the latter part's attack being so problematic that even if a pixel of it touches Bakugo, it's problem (Gaara also can do something here, as added by couple fellas before)
So i'll cast my vote at the five Kage mid-diff for that+FRA
">" and "<" that we learned on 4th grade are leading to complications
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And i saw no proper answer to the A and Ōnoki combo, the latter part's attack being so problematic that even if a pixel of it touches Bakugo, it's problem (Gaara also can do something here, as added by couple fellas before)
So i'll cast my vote at the five Kage mid-diff for that+FRA
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The fight is like "who is faster " between raikage and bakugo
Both character scale blitz above their own scalings but i choose raikage because of karo's arguments, bakugo scales blitz above 1.68 while raikage 3 times blitz above 1c(onoki amped form>v2form>mangekyo>3 tomoe sharingan=1c)
So voting Kages
Both character scale blitz above their own scalings but i choose raikage because of karo's arguments, bakugo scales blitz above 1.68 while raikage 3 times blitz above 1c(onoki amped form>v2form>mangekyo>3 tomoe sharingan=1c)
So voting Kages
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what does A even do even if he tags Bakugo? Bakugo's durability can handle his own attacks who can significantly maul and rip apart 18.65 teraton level characters, plus he has 1 shot amps on top of that which he can also tank himself due to newton's third law
Onoki can't buff himself in any way that matters since he's starting at 0.14c and his amp makes him blitz that level, but Bakugo is 12 times faster than that with Cluster which he uses all the time anyways, and he actually upscales from the 1.68c feat on his profile so hes even faster.
Using his weight-based buffs means he can't use both of them at the same time on someone cuz increasing someone's weight while also decreasing someone's weight results in no change whatsoever, meaning any person who loses the speed buff just gets blasted while anyone who loses the strength buff can't do anything. Onoki can't buff himself in any way that matters, landing Particle Style is almost impossible against someone who actually blitzes you, he can't keep up even AFTER boosting his own speed, and he is the ONLY reason why ANY of the kage stand a chance, so once he goes down it's actually just a clean sweep
A + Onoki gets countered by Bakugo just blasting all 5 at once and Onoki dies in the crossfire since his stats simply can't keep up, he can't dodge due to the speed disadvantage on top of the massive AOE making dodging very difficult anyways so Bakugo literally just points a hand in his direction and 1 shots with Cluster (Bakugo's reg explosions are 18.65 teratons while Cluster is stronger than anything he has done before including Howitzer which is actually a 1 shot amp towards people on his level much less people weaker), then he cleans the rest of them up
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Bakugo FRA.
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Instant paralysis via his lighting. He's immediately sitting ducks the moment ay touches him
He'd simply use it the same way he did against madara
Ohnoki wood golems can stop the combined attack of five full body clone susanoo at once. He'd be completely fine from bakugo attacks.
I'm not even sure there's any kage he can take out with his attacks
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Bakugo FRA
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5 Susano victims FRA.
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Forgog this thread, Bakugo FRA.
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Voting kages by the wayone man armageddon
Katsuki Bakugo (Final War Arc)
Attack Potency: 18.65 Teratons, higher with Cluster, even higher with Howitzer Impact: Cluster, even higher with Plus Ultra
Durability: 18.65 Teratons
Lifting Strength: 100 Metric Tons
Speed: 0.77c, 1.68c with Cluster
The Five Kage
Attack Potency: 7 Teratons, higher with Byakugō (Tsunade) and V2 (A), far higher with Ōnoki's enhancement
Durability: 7 Teratons, higher with Byakugō (Tsunade) and V2 (A), far higher with Ōnoki's enhancement
Lifting Strength: Unknown (Mei) 106,448 Metric Tons (Onoki), 1.322 Billion Metric Tons (Tsunade and A), higher with Byakugō (Tsunade) and V2 (A)
Speed: 0.14c (Tsunade, Onoki, and Mei), >1c (Gaara and A)
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Bakugo resists this and the Temporary Paralysis Technique is dependent on the user's strength, of which A doesn't have enough even with Heavy Buff
Against Madara, he never gave the same person both buffs before. Like I said, increasing someone's weight while also decreasing someone's weight just cancels out and nothing happens.
Onoki doesn't have wood golems, and again the Susanoo are treated as 7 Teratons on this site so no he's not going to be ok from Bakugo's attacks
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