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JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Discussion Thread IV: Diamond is Unbreakable

BoastJr said:
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Not having Kenshiro there is wild
 
AlipheeseXIV said:
Where does Jojo's MFTL+ reaction come from?
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Unless I'm mistaken, I don't think there's a canon profile that uses a Massively FTL+ rating. Off the top of my head, there's:

  • Novel Killer Queen using BTD like a billion times in a short time frame
  • Novel GER blitzing and one-shoting a bloodlusted and amped Made in Heaven
  • OVA Sliver Chariot slicing Hanged Man
None of those MFTL+ feats are used in canon profiles
 
DRW001 said:
Unless I'm mistaken, I don't think there's a canon profile that uses a Massively FTL+ rating. Off the top of my head, there's:

  • Novel Killer Queen using BTD like a billion times in a short time frame
  • Novel GER blitzing and one-shoting a bloodlusted and amped Made in Heaven
  • OVA Sliver Chariot slicing Hanged Man
None of those MFTL+ feats are used in canon profiles
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My fault, I realized I said MFTL+ lol, I meant MFTL
 
Just had an epiphany.
You know how all stands in Part III are named after Arcana cards?
What if Jotaro had that name because he's literally Joe Tarot?
 
Novel TW has an 8-B and Class G calc on the verse page yet is rated High 8-C and Class M on Novel Dio's profile, that should tell you how bad the profile is. I did just manage to get the outdated tag added so there's something I guess. Canon profiles revisions come first though
 
Lilybitdun said:
Why was this calc added to the verse page when it's unevaluated?
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I'd presume because it's just a corrected version of an already accepted calc, literally just the same calc but more precise/accurate. Either way that's an easy fix give me a minute to get an eval.
 
Can anyone help me a little?

I have trouble understanding MIH,how is Pucci blitzing Jotaro when he is only 30x faster than peak human speed?

Like Pucci states that it pretty much is his physical human speed that is amped by the multiplier, he says "is it faster than MY running".
This is the only antifeat that makes me question FTL jjba.
 
Ethnikistis said:
Can anyone help me a little?

I have trouble understanding MIH,how is Pucci blitzing Jotaro when he is only 30x faster than peak human speed?

Like Pucci states that it pretty much is his physical human speed that is amped by the multiplier, he says "is it faster than MY running".
This is the only antifeat that makes me question FTL jjba.
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1. Because it isn't. Jotaro's giving an example of the current time dilation, he isn't saying Pucci is only that fast (he clearly isn't even in the fight itself, Pucci later dodges a time dilated bullet just fine). Just that if someone was 10mps, they'd now be "this" fast. And counting, due to the exponential increase.

If Pucci himself was, for example, like sub-rel before (say off Jolyne deflecting meteorites, Whitesnake slow-moing and blitzing gunfire, etc.), he'd be FTL after the dilation, and Made in Heaven's speed itself is already exceptionally fast even at a minimum.

And 2. Because Jotaro got ultra omega nerfed, the coma gutted his stats, he shouldn't even be able to walk, the recent magazine even points out that E in sustainability for Plat in that chapter is due to the coma, he can barely even manifest his Stand.

And 3. Part 6 was rewritten last second, the whole final fight is subject to random bullshit.

But honestly the fact Star Platinum is stated FTL via pure speed multiple times would make it obvious he's FTL either way. Even if we ignore the actual reasons and nuance to this, this isn't even a FTL anti-thing, it'd be a supersonic anti-feat, which is so laughably untrue that even humoring it at face value is absurd.
 
Chariot190 said:
1. Because it isn't. Jotaro's giving an example of the current time dilation, he isn't saying Pucci is only that fast (he clearly isn't even in the fight itself, Pucci later dodges a time dilated bullet just fine). Just that if someone was 10mps, they'd now be "this" fast. And counting, due to the exponential increase.

If Pucci himself was, for example, like sub-rel before (say off Jolyne deflecting meteorites, Whitesnake slow-moing and blitzing gunfire, etc.), he'd be FTL after the dilation, and Made in Heaven's speed itself is already exceptionally fast even at a minimum.

And 2. Because Jotaro got ultra omega nerfed, the coma gutted his stats, he shouldn't even be able to walk, the recent magazine even points out that E in sustainability for Plat in that chapter is due to the coma, he can barely even manifest his Stand.

And 3. Part 6 was rewritten last second, the whole final fight is subject to random bullshit.

But honestly the fact Star Platinum is stated FTL via pure speed multiple times would make it obvious he's FTL either way. Even if we ignore the actual reasons and nuance to this, this isn't even a FTL anti-thing, it'd be a supersonic anti-feat, which is so laughably untrue that even humoring it at face value is absurd.
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Yes but according to logic it should be.Pucci is seen hopping around and kept saying stuff like
"My running" which leads me to believe that MIH ability is to apply the time multiplier to his base human physical speed, because Pucci is seen running around.

When Jotaro makes the bullet train comparison he says "But we can still follow the movements of a Bullet train",which implies that Pucci is indeed moving at the speed of a bullet train, because MIH just allowes Pucci to apply the time multiplier to his physical speed.
 
Ethnikistis said:
Yes but according to logic it should be.Pucci is seen hopping around and kept saying stuff like
"My running" which leads me to believe that MIH ability is to apply the time multiplier to his base human physical speed, because Pucci is seen running around.

When Jotaro makes the bullet train comparison he says "But we can still follow the movements of a Bullet train",which implies that Pucci is indeed moving at the speed of a bullet train, because MIH just allowes Pucci to apply the time multiplier to his physical speed.
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Uh, yeah? Obviously it applies to everything, movement, but also combat speed, burst speed, Stand speed, etc. But in what world is Pucci only 10mps? 10mps is like walking speed, you're acting as if this isn't the same manga that had shit like Jolyne outpace an explosion.

You're also ignoring how in the very comparison you just gave Jotaro outright says he can follow it. Which is odd no? If Jotaro can explicitly follow his example, he fact Pucci is a nuisance would dictate Pucci is quite a bit quicker.

You also randomly ignored everything else I said, like if you're just going to ignore context completely, why even bother with this when the same character in the same part is stated to be able to effortlessly dodge gunfire himself and has a direct FTL via pure speed statement. Hell not even the same part, a character who has a few dozen statements ranging from effortless mach to even some FTL stuff in general.
 
Chariot190 said:
Uh, yeah? Obviously it applies to everything, movement, but also combat speed, burst speed, Stand speed, etc. But in what world is Pucci only 10mps? 10mps is like walking speed, you're acting as if this isn't the same manga that had shit like Jolyne outpace an explosion.

You're also ignoring how in the very comparison you just gave Jotaro outright says he can follow it. Which is odd no? If Jotaro can explicitly follow his example, he fact Pucci is a nuisance would dictate Pucci is quite a bit quicker.

You also randomly ignored everything else I said, like if you're just going to ignore context completely, why even bother with this when the same character in the same part is stated to be able to effortlessly dodge gunfire himself and has a direct FTL via pure speed statement. Hell not even the same part, a character who has a few dozen statements ranging from effortless mach to even some FTL stuff in general.
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Aye fair enough.
 
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