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Weakest LGBTQ+ character of each category

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The sequel to this thread! Just going to copy and paste the rules: "Pretty much what it says on the tin. I think everyone knows the rules (say the character and reason), just try and not have head cannon or queer baited characters. AKA go for explicit LGBTQ+ characters to keep it simple for everyone and not like L from Death Note lmao."

Cool? Cool.

Lesbian-
  1. Noelle Holiday (Light World) - 9-B
  2. Undyne (Deltarune) - 9-B
  3. Alphys - 9-B
  4. 4
  5. 5
Gay-
  1. Royal Guards (Undertale) - 9-B
  2. Stolas - 9-A
  3. 3
  4. 4
  5. 5
Bisexual-
  1. Zora Salazar - 10-B
  2. Giovanni Potage - 10-B
  3. Will Mcdaniel - 9-B
  4. 4
  5. 5
Transgender-
  1. Mad Mew Mew - 9-B
  2. Madeline - 9-A
  3. Vivian - High 6-A
  4. 4
  5. 5
Non-Binary-
Please do not submit inanimate objects
  1. Kris Dreemurr (Light World) - 9-B
  2. Frisk - 9-B
  3. Chara (Pre-Death) - 9-B
  4. 4
  5. 5
Asexual-
  1. Alastor (Human) - 10-B
  2. Molly Blyndeff - 10-B
  3. Percival "Percy" King - 10-A
  4. 4
  5. 5
Aromantic-
  1. Alastor (Human) - 10-B
  2. Howie Honeyglow - 9-C
  3. 3
  4. 4
  5. 5
Bigender-
  1. 1
  2. 2
  3. 3
  4. 4
  5. 5
Genderfluid-
  1. Zooble - 9-A
  2. 2
  3. 3
  4. 4
  5. 5
Pansexual-
  1. Blitzo - 9-A
  2. 2
  3. 3
  4. 4
  5. 5
Agender-
  1. Grunt (Madness Combat) - 9-C
  2. 2
  3. 3
  4. 4
  5. 5
 
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"Hey it's Pride Month. You know what that means"

"Huh?
What?
Do you want us to, like, scale gay characters or something?"
 
Ok, so I would put in some Epithet Erased people, but their profiles are also like absurdly outdated to the point where I can’t do so in good faith

A lot of them should really be tier 9 to 8 but nobody has bothered to include any Prison of Plastic info or 90% of the notable feats from the show, so they’re stuck in tier 10 hell
 
Ok, so I would put in some Epithet Erased people, but their profiles are also like absurdly outdated so I unfortunately can’t
I mean you can if you want to, they can be updated on the list in case of crt (just tell me in advance)
 
Putting Molly behind Alastor as she has EE. Adding the rest
Oh yeah, her hax is pretty good, though it's unclear if it works on anything other than summons (imo, it does since her other powers work on people), and it is limited by her energy and range, but she also used it to erase entire chunks out of a s'more dragon, so eh
 

Our great genderless cannon fodder of the AAHW. (For agender, obviously)
 

Our great genderless cannon fodder of the AAHW. (For agender, obviously)
wouldn't this more count as a genderless species rather than agender representation?
 
wouldn't this more count as a genderless species rather than agender representation?
Yeah, like, technically most fictional robots are genderless, but you wouldn’t really call them LGBT reps cause it isn’t like a thing they identify with, it’s just a natural consequence of their existence
 
Yeah, like, technically most fictional robots are genderless, but you wouldn’t really call them LGBT reps cause it isn’t like a thing they identify with, it’s just a natural consequence of their existence
Robots being genderless and a species being born genderless whilst presenting themselves as male is very different and you know that.
 
Robots being genderless and a species being born genderless whilst presenting themselves as male is very different and you know that.
I think the main thing tripping me up is that they're still technically cis, they didn't discover they didn't have a gender, they were just assigned as genderless due to lacking any sex characteristics. Of course, if they DO actively identify as agender as you imply, then sure, but just know that simply lacking biological sex doesn't make someone agender cause sex is a physical characteristic, while gender is a more personal, internal one.
 
I think the main thing tripping me up is that they're still technically cis, they didn't discover they didn't have a gender, they were just assigned as genderless due to lacking any sex characteristics. Of course, if they DO actively identify as agender as you imply, then sure, but just know that simply lacking biological sex doesn't make someone agender
buncha technicalities, are we really going to look at a genderless person who presents as a man and goes by they/them and say "yeah that's a cis person"? We counted a buncha tier 1s in the last thread despite them technically never discovering anything about themselves as far as i can tell, so grunts are far from a bad choice for agender representation.
 
buncha technicalities, are we really going to look at a genderless person who presents as a man and goes by they/them and say "yeah that's a cis person"? We counted a buncha tier 1s in the last thread despite them technically never discovering anything about themselves as far as i can tell, so grunts are far from a bad choice for agender representation.
However it is stated a few times by the creator of madness that they do not feel any romantic feelings toward anyone and nobody in Nevada do relationships, so if agender isn't sold for you guys aromantic is a very blatant one for them too.
 
buncha technicalities, are we really going to look at a genderless person who presents as a man and goes by they/them and say "yeah that's a cis person"? We counted a buncha tier 1s in the last thread despite them technically never discovering anything about themselves as far as i can tell, so grunts are far from a bad choice for agender representation.
Ok, with the context of the pronouns, I’d say agender should be ok, I was just a bit hesitant back there
However it is stated a few times by the creator of madness that they do not feel any romantic feelings toward anyone and nobody in Nevada do relationships, so if agender isn't sold for you guys aromantic is a very blatant one for them too.
Yeah, that should be ok too
 
Royal Guards (Gay 9-B)
Probably won’t stay for long but:
Vivian (Trans High 6-A)
Birdo (Trans High 6-A)
Yep, one of them have to go, since we have Madeline, who's 9-A trans (if you didn't know, Celeste is about journey of acceptance of your trans identity)
 
Yep, one of them have to go, since we have Madeline, who's 9-A trans (if you didn't know, Celeste is about journey of acceptance of your trans identity)
While I’d love for Vivian to stay, I think she technically scales higher since she can damage the Shadow Queen
 
While I’d love for Vivian to stay, I think she technically scales higher since she can damage the Shadow Queen
That’s due to bond shenanigans, the people cheering on Mario and the gang empowered the crystal stars, giving them the power to take down Shadow Queen, before that they weren’t doing shit to her
 
That’s due to bond shenanigans, the people cheering on Mario and the gang empowered the crystal stars, giving them the power to take down Shadow Queen, before that they weren’t doing shit to her
Then I guess I’ll submit Vivian to stay
 
Wait a minute, I remembered that Blitzo from Helluva boss is also a pansexual (after Lucifer addition)
 
yea I'll add him, is there any other helluva characters you wanna submit?
I wanted to submit Octavia and Moxxie, but I forgot to which tier Via scales and Bisexuals are already taken, so moxxie couldn't be added
 
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