Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

Sus · Sunday at 13:10

Ozcantabak said:
Curse Naoya beating Toji or no ?

no..? toji has the same precognition as maki and thus one shots him with SSK

toji has even more wincons if he prevents naoya from using PS with ISoH

EldemadeDityjon · Sunday at 14:22

Ozcantabak said:
Curse Naoya beating Toji or no ?

If Maki can beat him don't see why Toji can't.

AbaddonTheDisappointment · Sunday at 14:42

Ozcantabak said:
Curse Naoya beating Toji or no ?

The whole point of it was that Maki needed to reach what Toji could perceive. She had the body but not the senses and she realized there was something he still had that she lacked and by the end she got it. No reason to assume Toji wouldn’t beat Curse Naoya the same way she did

Sus · Sunday at 16:33

why do people act like megumi could have tamed maho if he locked in, its basically impossible unless you have 2 CTs and even if you do you must be overpowered asf

EldemadeDityjon · Sunday at 17:22

Sus said:
why do people act like megumi could have tamed maho if he locked in, its basically impossible unless you have 2 CTs and even if you do you must be overpowered asf

I can see Nue power being able to do it but need high output for sure. Maybe Bull with enough time to build up

Sus · Sunday at 17:23

EldemadeDityjon said:
I can see Nue power being able to do it but need high output for sure. Maybe Bull with enough time to build up

numerous 10s users failed im inclined to believe taming maho is just not feasible without an extra CT

Sus · Sunday at 17:24

so do we scale shikigami based on the user except maho or are they all the same across users?

i don't think megumis elephant and dogs are on par with sukuna's

EldemadeDityjon · Sunday at 17:30

Sus said:
numerous 10s users failed im inclined to believe taming maho is just not feasible without an extra CT

Except they were bums. Sukuna tamed it which proves it's possible. I think TS users are just not creative.

Sus · Sunday at 17:31

EldemadeDityjon said:
Sukuna tamed it which proves it's possible

top 1 in the verse btw

plus he tamed it with shrine

AbaddonTheDisappointment · Sunday at 19:09

Sus said:
why do people act like megumi could have tamed maho if he locked in, its basically impossible unless you have 2 CTs and even if you do you must be overpowered asf

I mean technically it’s possible with the given kit. The only issue is that you effectively have to have already mastered the other shadows and have high output/reserves to be able to use them effectively at the level of Sukuna so while it’s technically possible it’s also effectively impossible cause every other 10s user isn’t gonna be Sukuna and he was a literal genetic anomaly.

ShionAH · Sunday at 19:12

Sus said:
kenjaku has prior knowledge on culling game players with the exception of yuki since her technique was kept as a secret by jujutsu high

He didn't know about Hakari too because Uraume was shocked by him, which wouldn't make sense if Kenny already told her about him.

Kenjaku vs Hakari is just not possible to scale, its just whoever you believe wins the domain clash wins realistically lol. But I have Hakari at 4 below Kenny

Sus · Sunday at 19:32

ShionAH said:
He didn't know about Hakari too because Uraume was shocked by him, which wouldn't make sense if Kenny already told her about him.

Kenjaku vs Hakari is just not possible to scale, its just whoever you believe wins the domain clash wins realistically lol. But I have Hakari at 4 below Kenny

kenjaku has an open barrier hakari is getting touched

Sus · Sunday at 19:33

Sus said:
so do we scale shikigami based on the user except maho or are they all the same across users?

i don't think megumis elephant and dogs are on par with sukuna's

also thoughts on this?

mahoraga being the only exception is interesting

ShionAH · Sunday at 19:37

Sus said:
kenjaku has an open barrier hakari is getting touched

thats my point, it heavily depends on how strong you think Hakari's binding vow is compared to open barriers. Gege called it super strong and its clearly a top tier refinement due to feats and statements, but is it on that level? Who knows, probably not even gege

Sus · Sunday at 19:40

ShionAH said:
thats my point, it heavily depends on how strong you think Hakari's binding vow is compared to open barriers. Gege called it super strong and its clearly a top tier refinement due to feats and statements, but is it on that level? Who knows, probably not even gege

the thing is, hakaris domain excels at something irrelevant to open barrier

ShionAH · Sunday at 19:40

Sus said:
the thing is, hakaris domain excels at something irrelevant to open barrier

open barriers still clash dude?

plus we don't even have proof if Kenjaku can attack the barrier like Sukuna does since his surehit isn't like dismantle nor do we know if he has enhanced range like Sukuna or if he has another advantage

Sus · Sunday at 19:45

ShionAH said:
open barriers still clash dude?

and? they clash differently

ShionAH said:
plus we don't even have proof if Kenjaku can attack the barrier like Sukuna does since his surehit isn't like dismantle nor do we know if he has enhanced range like Sukuna or if he has another advantage

"by allowing an escape route, a binding vow is imposed to increase effective range"
applies to kenjaku

"expanding on reality itself rather than in a barrier" is why sukuna can attack inanimate objects which also applies to kenjaku

you have to prove why kenjaku cant destroy domains from the outside when his domain works 1:1 like sukuna

plus, tengen prior to knowing kenjaku achieved open barrier she still advised yuki not to clash domains, so even a closed barrier kenjaku is capable of clashing against special grades

hakari is legit not surviving this

Zabazab · Sunday at 19:46

Kenjaku does not need Domain Expansion to beat Hakari. He could waste it and then ship all his special grade cursed spirits to Taiwan and he'd still at worst mid-diff Hakari.

Sus · Sunday at 19:47

Zabazab said:
Kenjaku does not need Domain Expansion to beat Hakari. He could waste it and then ship all his special grade cursed spirits to Taiwan and he'd still at worst mid-diff Hakari.

zabazab makes decent takes when we aren't talking about yuta

Sus · Sunday at 19:47

btw yuta has top 4 domain imo, behind the obvious 3

Zabazab · Sunday at 19:50

Sus said:
zabazab makes decent takes when we aren't talking about yuta

"I think the [You Can't Use Jujutsu Button] kills the guy who dies when he can't use jujutsu."
"That's insane."

ShionAH · Sunday at 19:51

Sus said:
and? they clash differently

no they don't

Sus said:
"by allowing an escape route, a binding vow is imposed to increase effective range"
applies to kenjaku

No, it applies to Sukuna. Who's to say Kenjaku didn't get increased surehit effects?

Sus said:
"expanding on reality itself rather than in a barrier" is why sukuna can attack inanimate objects which also applies to kenjaku

No

Sus said:
you have to prove why kenjaku cant destroy domains from the outside when his domain works 1:1 like sukuna

You or me have no evidence to say it works 1:1 like Sukuna's, its range definitely didn't look as big as Sukunas as far as I remember.

Sus said:
plus, tengen prior to knowing kenjaku achieved open barrier she still advised yuki not to clash domains, so even a closed barrier kenjaku is capable of clashing against special grades

Yuki is a featless bum with no domain feats tf does this prove

Again, Hakari does lose more often than not. I am just saying its hard to say since due to domain refinement.

Zabazab said:
Kenjaku does not need Domain Expansion to beat Hakari. He could waste it and then ship all his special grade cursed spirits to Taiwan and he'd still at worst mid-diff Hakari.

I have yet to see you make a mediocre take let alone a good one

Sus · Sunday at 19:54

ShionAH said:
no they don't

not an argument

ShionAH said:
No, it applies to Sukuna. Who's to say Kenjaku didn't get increased surehit effects?

because the 2 are related? "you can escape but its harder"

ShionAH said:
No

not an argument

ShionAH said:
You or me have no evidence to say it works 1:1 like Sukuna's, its range definitely didn't look as big as Sukunas as far as I remember.

sukuna can shrink it so can kenjaku

ShionAH said:
Yuki is a featless bum with no domain feats tf does this prove

she still is a special grade bruh

Sus · Sunday at 19:55

even if kenjaku cant destroy the domain this literally means jack shit, kenjaku beats him inside the domains

ShionAH · Sunday at 19:57

Sus said:
because the 2 are related? "you can escape but its harder"

a stronger surehit also makes it harder?

Sus said:
sukuna can shrink it so can kenjaku

Any proof he did that?

Sus said:
she still is a special grade bruh

So is Geto, Yaga was gonna be a special grade. Like... come on.

Sus said:
even if kenjaku cant destroy the domain this literally means jack shit, kenjaku beats him inside the domains

ShionAH said:
Again, Hakari does lose more often than not. I am just saying its hard to say since due to domain refinement.

Sus · Sunday at 20:00

ShionAH said:
a stronger surehit also makes it harder?

you realize that he only needs 1 inch of extra range than a normal domain to destroy it right

ShionAH said:
Any proof he did that?

kenjaku? well, no, but if less experienced characters can, so can he, he is top 1/2 barrier user afterall

ShionAH said:
So is Geto, Yaga was gonna be a special grade. Like... come on.

ms. interchangeable with yuta hello?

Sus · Sunday at 20:03

anyway both bums

Zabazab · Sunday at 20:06

I really don't understand liking Hakari. Uninteresting character with little screentime, said screentime being wasted on extremely lame and pointless fights. He doesn't even have a cool fighting style. He sucks. Has literally the worst fight in JJK in an arc where the competition was NOT fierce.

Sus · Sunday at 20:10

Zabazab said:
I really don't understand liking Hakari. Uninteresting character with little screentime, said screentime being wasted on extremely lame and pointless fights. He doesn't even have a cool fighting style. He sucks. Has literally the worst fight in JJK in an arc where the competition was NOT fierce.

mind you one of his only 2 fights was off screened and he admitted loss both times

ShionAH · Sunday at 20:11

Sus said:
ms. interchangeable with yuta hello?

Who cares? She has no domain feats let it go.

Zabazab said:
Uninteresting character with little screentime, said screentime being wasted on extremely lame and pointless fights. He doesn't even have a cool fighting style. He sucks. Has literally the worst fight in JJK in an arc where the competition was NOT fierce.

You are a Y*ta fan dude. Don't even talk

Hakari is hilarious, interesting as a student and character as a whole. A sorcerer of the modern era that fights and lives like the old ones from Heian era is not interesting? All his fights are enjoyable and in my opinion especially the Charles one is deeper and more complex than like %99 of fights in JJK. He is great, thats why despite his barely any screen time and extreme negligence from gege he is still one of the most beloved characters with the second most popular meme in JJK. In other words he is the goat

ShionAH · Sunday at 20:12

Sus said:
mind you one of his only 2 fights was off screened and he admitted loss both times

Mind you he doesn't only have 2 fights and he has never admitted he lost. Yall are ragebaiting me or its repulsive

Sus · Sunday at 20:12

ShionAH said:
Mind you he doesn't only have 2 fights and he has never admitted he lost. Yall are ragebaiting me its repulsive

"i don't consider myself a winner" on kashimo
"i couldn't take her down" on uraume

Zabazab · Sunday at 20:13

Sus said:
mind you one of his only 2 fights was off screened and he admitted loss both times

Charles fight so boring you forgot it

Sus · Sunday at 20:13

guess who lost twice and still is the goat

Zabazab said:
Charles fight so boring you forgot it

oh that

ShionAH · Sunday at 20:15

Sus said:
"i don't consider myself a winner" on kashimo

He was referring to MBA Kashimo.

Otherwise Kashimo admits he won thats why he gives the 100 points like they made a deal about this thing dude.

Sus said:
"i couldn't take her down" on uraume

How is this losing? He is saying he wasn't able to kill Uraume and join against Sukuna.

Zabazab said:
Charles fight so boring you forgot it

Sus said:
oh that

Its because neither of you have the attention span to watch a hand to hand combat with quips and deeper messages, you just see big explosion and go woahhh. I am not surprised, nothing more was excepted from Hakari haters

Zabazab · Sunday at 20:19

ShionAH said:
You are a Y*ta fan dude. Don't even talk

Yuta is a much more compelling character than Hakari yes. Maybe because he actually gets time to Do Things unlike Hakari, who is just an action figure for Gege to play with. Not even a good spectacle of an action figure either.

Sus said:
guess who lost twice and still is the goat

Gojo Satoru(?)

ShionAH · Sunday at 20:25

Zabazab said:
Yuta is a much more compelling character than Hakari yes. Maybe because he actually gets time to Do Things unlike Hakari, who is just an action figure for Gege to play with. Not even a good spectacle of an action figure either.

Yuta is literally a pile of shit, there's not a single interesting bone in that kids body. DESPITE BEING A MAIN CHARACTER WITH A WHOLE MOVIE ABOUT HIM.

He was sorta compelling in 0 but then he becomes the most bland Isekai MC, Literally Yuta Stu ahh character

Copy as a technique is the worst designed since unlike PPLT which lets Hakari show off fun regeneration and thrill of gambling while letting other characters use extreme amounts of violence as a bonus Copy is literally just using an already used and shown technique (He doesn't bring out any new mechanics or showcases, his limitation is barely on screen so thats not interesting either) whats worse is that he actively hurts other characters with said ability unlike Hakari who supports them (by taking their attacks and showing off cool manga gore). Inumaki, Angel... if Hakari is trash then Yuta is radioactive waste

Sus · Sunday at 20:53

Zabazab said:
Gojo Satoru(?)

mahoraga

Sus · Sunday at 20:53

ShionAH said:
He was referring to MBA Kashimo.

Otherwise Kashimo admits he won thats why he gives the 100 points like they made a deal about this thing dude.

How is this losing? He is saying he wasn't able to kill Uraume and join against Sukuna.

Its because neither of you have the attention span to watch a hand to hand combat with quips and deeper messages, you just see big explosion and go woahhh. I am not surprised, nothing more was excepted from Hakari haters

i don't hate hakari, i just don't particularly like him either

same with yuta

EldemadeDityjon · Sunday at 21:08

Maki is bigger fraud than Yuta. You people need to realise that.

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