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General DC Comics Discussion Thread

I plan to make a small CRT for the Material Realms section in a few days, possibly tomorrow if i can, not for universes and hypertimelines (since that has already been covered), but concerning the Orrery of Worlds, the Timestream, and Bohm's Implicit Order, which has nothing to do with this section of DC Cosmology. Stay tuned.

This would downgrade certain aspects of the cosmology, but also upgrades others.
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I know we have talked about prime alot recently but why is this obvious time travel feat not on his updated profile in the speed section (and current superman's as well for that matter)
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I know we have talked about prime alot recently but why is this obvious time travel feat not on his updated profile in the speed section (and current superman's as well for that matter)
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Many of Superman's feats, as well as those of many other characters, still haven't been evaluated, and their profiles are very outdated. If I remember correctly, since Superman's current feats couldn't be added to the Rebirth Superman profile, the plan was to create a new profile for him, but I don't think that ever ended up happening

And no, this is not a time travel feat; it could be a case of Dimension Travel instead

What I mean is that Superboy Prime did not accomplish this through his speed; he simply travels across dimensions and through time by punching reality.
Also NPI regarding space and time
Maybe
 
I know we have talked about prime alot recently but why is this obvious time travel feat not on his updated profile in the speed section (and current superman's as well for that matter)
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I did not include it on my updated profile as he already has immeasurable speed even at his base form. He required Bart Allen to absorb the entire Speed Force to catch up to him. I can add this though; however, the way it is demonstrated here is more of a strength feat by shattering space and time than a speed feat. Plus, as a Pre-Crisis Kryptonian, he can effortlessly travel through time via pure speed alone.
 
I did not include it on my updated profile as he already has immeasurable speed even at his base form. He required Bart Allen to absorb the entire Speed Force to catch up to him. I can add this though; however, the way it is demonstrated here is more of a strength feat by shattering space and time than a speed feat. Plus, as a Pre-Crisis Kryptonian, he can effortlessly travel through time via pure speed alone.
He's truly an awesome character... absolutely incredible..
 
He's truly an awesome character... absolutely incredible..
He used to be a murderous villain, and a severely distorted "take that" strawman character against any readers who have the audacity to dislike grimdark stories, remember? 🙏
 
That said, I like how he is handled currently. 🙏
 
He used to be a murderous villain, and a severely distorted "take that" strawman character against any readers who have the audacity to dislike grimdark stories, remember? 🙏
Yeah, in Final Crisis he had a pretty childish attitude. He was very arrogant and kept insisting that he was the Superman, constantly emphasizing it, almost like a stubborn child. But now he has developed into a much better and even funny character who feels much closer to what a real Superman should be.
It's the complete opposite of the villainous Superboy he used to be.
He's much more nuanced now, and honestly, a lot better
 
He was always kind of harshly judged by the community back in the day. If you actually look into it, it is easy to feel sympathy towards him. He was pretty young when he was suddenly thrust into situations that he believed to be fictional. Then as soon as soon as he started to get the hang of things all of existence and everyone he knew was erased. He then spent years (in the paradise dimension; however, time works differently there so from his perspective it likely felt far longer) watching his memories over and over again. He then watched as the universe that emerged after everything and everyone he knew was erased was not a pure one as his had been. He was used to the heroes being practically flawless and even the villains really were not all that evil, sure they would do bad things but they were not brutal sadists. He watched the new universe unfold with immoral heroes and brutal villains. He was then manipulated by Alexander Luthor Jr, who even he was not really a bad guy, he was trying to fix what had went wrong but went down the wrong path to do so. He eventually snapped seeing Connor Kent, after he had sacrificed everything, he sees that he has been replaced. Even still he could have returned to heroism; however, when he engaged the Teen Titan, the Doom Patrol, and a few other super teams, he did not realize his own strength and ends up killing people. The first time he does it he even states that he did not mean to; however, naturally the heroes just saw their friends and teammates die and continued to attack him instead of resolving the situation peacefully. Realistically, anyone would have reacted with violence towards Superboy Prime in that moment. The fact that they did was the point of no return for him and afterwards he became a tragic villain becoming increasingly more mentally unstable.
 
I did not include it on my updated profile as he already has immeasurable speed even at his base form. He required Bart Allen to absorb the entire Speed Force to catch up to him. I can add this though; however, the way it is demonstrated here is more of a strength feat by shattering space and time than a speed feat. Plus, as a Pre-Crisis Kryptonian, he can effortlessly travel through time via pure speed alone.
Fair, was not asking to be rude or anything just genuinely wondering why it wasn't included when it would just support immeasurable speed even more u know?
 
Fair, was not asking to be rude or anything just genuinely wondering why it wasn't included when it would just support immeasurable speed even more u know?
True. It is always better to have more supporting feats; however, I would categorize the scans you provided as AP feats and not speed.

Also, the Imgur link was not working before because I included a scan where SBP ripped off a dude’s arm so it got flagged, but not only does Bart Allen have to absorb the entire Speed Force to catch up to him, the first time The Flash family fought him they burnt out the entire Speed Force imprisoning him.
 
There's a statement by Prime that he said he able to flying back in time. I can put that if everyone agree that is immeasurable.

Im working in Superboy Prime profile make some adjustments of his ability like fourth wall.
 
Actually, I'm wondering how quantum waveform collapse is equal to L1C. Im not an expert of terminology but i just want to know how Superman is L1C by quantum waveform collapse
 
Actually, I'm wondering how quantum waveform collapse is equal to L1C. Im not an expert of terminology but i just want to know how Superman is L1C by quantum waveform collapse
Probably the characters that are going to be upgraded to Low 1-C will be done through chain scaling.
I didn’t fully understand that CRT in general, and I’ll get back to it later

I just want to say that in the previous CRT it was agreed that characters who directly affect the multiverse or the infinite universes within the multiverse were upgrade to Low 1-C
 
And I’m surprised that so many characters were upgraded to Low 1-C, but why was only Superman surprising to you?! He’s actually a really powerful character, it’s not even that surprising.
 
Uncountable infinity
Yeah, I remember something like that

A larger infinity called Aleph-1 was derived, which qualified for Low 1-C.

What I mean is that the infinite number of universes used to upgrade those characters was actually a much larger infinity known as Aleph-1. As a result, the multiverse was interpreted as having 4 spatial dimensions + 1 temporal dimension, making it 5D
 
I have been revamping Hal Jordan’s profile and it is clear that he is straight up the most powerful of the DC Herald tier characters.

He has much better feats than even Superman and reading through a lot of his comics, his hax and random abilities list is absurdly long. His Pre-Crisis incarnation is everything that people say about Pre-Crisis Superman but it is actually accurate in Hal’s case. His power set then was straight up BS being essentially a reality warper. This remained the case in the early Post-Crisis Era but as the rules of the Green Lantern Corps became more firmly established by writers, the endless list of hax and random abilities began to go away. He used to just will his ring to do things and they would happen, now he and other Lanterns mostly just use their constructs.

An accurate full list of the abilities he and other Green Lanterns have demonstrated would be so many pages long.
 
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