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General DC Comics Discussion Thread

Antvasima said:
@PromptedElephant641 @Firestorm808

What do you think? 🙏
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As I stated in that thread, there are arguments to be made; however, the ones being used were not the proper ones.

It has long been known that the main Numbered / Labeled / Designated Earths of the multiverse contain their own alternate timelines as well as quantum offshoot universes. Much like how each universe in Marvel is its own multiverse of sorts. The same is applicable here (though at a much lower scale without the 1A universe nonsense that Marvel has.)

You can re-open it but whatever is decided from it is just going to have to be fixed in the future when I get to my revision.

Ultimately: there are uncountably infinite Numbered / Labeled / Designated Earths in the multiverse. Each of these Earths has its own timeline. A line of any size has a number of points equivalent to the set of all real numbers. At each of those points an infinite number of timelines is made, for each of these offshoot timelines an infinite number of timelines is made, this process goes onward infinitely. 2^Aleph0 is equivalent to the set of all real numbers, where as this situation is described by Aleph0^Aleph0 which of course is also equal to the set of all real numbers. As such the total number of timelines and quantum offshoot universes produced by a Labeled Earth is equivalent to a 6D structure with a 5D quantity produced at each point in the timeline. Therefore the multiverse is 7D for having an uncountably infinite number of Labeled Earths that are 6D in their totality.

The people who ACTUALLY scale to this is very limited and would not affect Heralds like Superman and such at all.
 
Okay, but is there really any point to reopen that thread in that case? 🙏
 
Antvasima said:
Okay, but is there really any point to reopen that thread in that case? 🙏
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Just checked thread, I get what's argument but it is presented super badly and prob without good evidence. It would be better if it stayed closed. It is obvious OP is using another ppl arguments without understanding it fully. But way he does it, proves his lack of experience. I trust that topic to @PromptedElephant641 or some of my friends who are actually knowledgeable in DC if they want to revisit topic in near future

I am full agreement with you btw
 
Hecky2222 said:
Just checked thread, I get what's argument but it is presented super badly and prob without good evidence. It would be better if it stayed closed. It is obvious OP is using another ppl arguments without understanding it fully. But way he does it, proves his lack of experience. I trust that topic to @PromptedElephant641 or some of my friends who are actually knowledgeable in DC if they want to revisit topic in near future

I am full agreement with you btw
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Okay. Unless Firestorm808 objects, I think that it should stay closed in that case. 🙏
 
Bimgus8010 said:
Are we seriously adding

On earth he's x tier
In space he's x tier
When not holding back, he's x tier
With raw willpower, he's x tier
At peak, he's x tier

Like good lord, why are we adding unnecessary amounts of tiers to each key🥲


Also, some feats don't work like this one which I think I mentioned which you dodged about spectre supposedly having a fair fight with Hal but when you look at the link, it's once again not the case as the spectre couldn't actually hurt Hal since rules


I also touched on willworld which you once again dodged
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Demattis should right this
 

I think i found biggest darkseid simp on the planet
He think eclipso is the original great darkess and he became that using darksied crystal. Entire pariah event was vandal salvage playing mind tricks using new great darkness.
 
Bros cosmology follows something like this
cas> mandrakk>overvoid> Darkseid > rest of all dc combined
maybe darkseid above overvoid idk
 
Flopfleee786 said:
I asked this before but I still don’t understand. I’m assuming this lucifer is the vertigo lucifer but vertigo cosmology is different to the normal dc cosmology. Existence was made by Michael, lucifer and Gabriel in vertigo yet multiverses are made by the hands in dc. How do the two cosmologies reconcile?
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1: Verito is a part of DC’s cosmology, so there isn’t a separation between those two things. The same Lucifer you see in stories under the Vertigo label are taking place in the same setting where Batman and Superman run around beating up criminals, just in different realms. The part of the DC multiverse Lucifer lives in and tends to hang around is the Sphere of Gods or whatever other random magical realm the narrative takes him to. The heroes on the other hand usually reside in earth, which is on a different and lesser level of reality.

2: Not really. In DC there is various creation myths, corresponding to what Gods you worship. Meaning if you worship Yahweh, then yes the material world was made via The Presence and the Archangels, and when you die you’d pass on to the interpretation of the afterlife that corresponds to that religion, ie heaven and hell. However, If you worship different deities, let’s say the Greek pantheon, then the material world was created by them, and when you die you’d end up in their version of heaven and hell, ie the Elysian Fields and Hades/the Underworld.

Note: No beings in the Sphere of Gods are responsible for truly making all existence, as the Gods are not the supreme beings in DC universe. They are purely abstract ideas personified and derived from the archetypes of the Collective Unconscious. And there is many domains and realms that transcend them in the cosmology. Some people think they’re the end all be all but that’s just objectively not true. They’re just the most relevant cosmic domain to Earth and it’s superheroes.
 
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