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Jinx666
Jinx666
Peak thanks so much!!! Glad to have calculations that actually get approved haha
Queen_Dasania
Yeah lmao! It’s pretty easy to get an idea of their power levels now
Jinx666
Jinx666
Yeah

I do reckon a certain few feats could possibly bump Halara (and possibly Vivia) to 9-B but i wouldnt be sure. Meanwhile the bullet timing stuff is definitely Subsonic or even above.

As for within Mystery Labyrinths, theres a lot of blatant destruction feats that can be scaled to, but im expecting Tier 8 stuff mostly, and then potentially Tier 7 onscreen. There is the whole 'Mystery Labyrinths are alternate universes' stuff though that could possibly yield some higher results for things
Queen_Dasania
When I get to it, I can definitely get some calculations done!
Queen_Dasania
I’m seeing what you mean. yuta destroying the doors is definitely gonna be wall level at the very least, even according to the references for common feats page. Possibly higher due to how big they are. I’ll calculate it

Also, Shinigami leaps into the air really high, really quickly after you beat the barrel minigame. I’ll calculate that eventually as well

So definitely a couple feats. I haven’t seen much from the real world yet, but I believe you that I will
Queen_Dasania
Oh, and got to the God Shinigami parts. Even from large wise, she’ll be at least wall-small building level. Likely higher from breaking through the giant walls
Jinx666
Jinx666
Yeah, i think theres somewhere stated that Shinigami actually creates a pocket dimension for that barrel game. As for Yuma destroying things in mystery labyrinths, ig its tied to him knowing the mystery to solve buuuut theres still an obvious superhuman edge to it

You'll see the general 9-C feats in Chapter 1 (and one in Chapter 4)
Queen_Dasania
Ok I see. I’ll wait until then, then. And if I can find evidence for them creating the pocket dimension, then I’ll just put her at High Universe-Universal level+
Queen_Dasania
Im on chapter 2. What feats from 1 did you want me to calculate?

Also, for Shinigami. We don’t know how big the pocket dimensions are necessarily. However, the bare minimum is small planet level. I say this because there are clouds, and clouds are necessary for an atmosphere, and something as small as a moon won’t have them. Since we see clouds, she needs to create something at least small planet level in size. She’s Universe level+ at a high end because the pocket dimension has its own time stream

Want me to calculate her goddess Shinigami feats though? Since she can still technically be hurt by stuff within the verse. So we might say insert result of calculation level, at least Small Plant level, possibly Universe level* with creation?
Jinx666
Jinx666
Her GOD Shinigami feats are deff worth calculating as the lowball of her physicals.

Idk about the whole pocket dimension stuff but we can certainly discuss it later on. Theres clouds, theres a sun, but it could all genuinely be based around magic given tis within a Mystery Labyrinth. The fact that Labyrinths are alternate universes in themself that Shinigami destroys is up to talk about, but that seems more because she reaps the soul that the entire universe's existence is fringed upon. Still, theyres a huge explosion via her Bella Fresco.

For the real world stuff though, mainly calculating Halara beating down the peacekeepers. They are launching grown men into the air and kicking them back tens of meters casually. They force kicked open a locked door too. They also are shown to blitz Yuma and even Seth with their movements (like when they cut the rope blocking off the hidden bar).
Queen_Dasania
Fair enough. I didn’t calc on her speed, but it hasn’t been reviewed yet. I’ll do some for her god physicals eventually
Jinx666
Jinx666
Yeah, if you're keeping a list of all the feats you're willling to calc then i can look and see if theres anything else to add! Otherwise hope you're enjoying the game.

Ive also come across translations to a light novel (supervised by Spike Chunsoft so it should be canon) with stories for all the detectives titled 'Waiting for Yuma', so im looking at updating the current profiles i made for those. The translations are pretty bad but I can understand the gist of them. Ill lyk if theres any gamechangers in there
Queen_Dasania
Ok!

Well so far

Fubuki bullet feat. Idk if I could calculate it, but I could see it being subsonic-supersonic

Shinigami flies into the sky during barrel minigame. I calculated this to be High Hypersonic. Just waiting for evaluation

God Shinigami large size. Could easily see wall-building level, and subsonic speed from size alone here

God Shinigami breaking wall and kicking away metal balls. Could easily see this being Building-Multi City Block level

Yuma breaks through walls in maze. Could see Wall-Small Building level

Desuhiko making disguises in such short time almost seems like a speed feat. Idk if I could calculate this, and where it would land exactly. But I feel it’s worth mentioning. Especially since he explicitly mentions doing making, dressing himself up, tape, padding, etc

I could try a general estimation for the creation of the labyrinth pocket dimension. I’m not certain though. I feel like it has to be at the very least small town level, as the maze is huge. And it’s definitely Universe level+ at max. Not sure if I’ll have enough to calculate though

Yuma, Shinigami, and Halara survive an explosion that sends them back to the tower in the Labrynth. Not sure if I can calculate it, but I’d estimate wall level
Jinx666
Jinx666
Nice yeah, thats a bunch of them!

You're probs already aware but their durabilities and stuff are different in the Mystery Labyrinth since they process pain differently (Any damage taken in Mystery Labyrinth is reflected mentally in the real world)

Desuhiko is tricky cause as much as he claims its not magic, theres definitely some supernatural element to it, its just hard to process what. He has got other speed feats but they feel more comical and not actually intended to be that fast. At the same time theres probably more saying he does manually apply the disguises in the short amount of time, and the bag just creates the materials.

The maze is definitely bigger than what its outside appears to be. We see in pretty much all the Labyrinths that it can recreate a ton of stars (assuming theyre just not visuals), but i doubt anyone scales to destroying it properly since its existence hinges on the culprits soul
Queen_Dasania
Yeah, I figured the Labyrinth feats only applied to it

Yeah, I did rough numbers, and getting the disguise ready as quick as he goes could be supersonic potentially. But I may just treat it as an outlier unless I get something else backing it. It just feels too iffy

I agree. I’d say just a “possibly universe level+” with creation could apply to Shinigami only. Aside from that though, since she can get hurt within it I believe, she shouldn’t fully scale
Jinx666
Jinx666
I mean Halara is shown to appear as a blur and blitz ppl (and Halara would likely be comparable, if not faster, given their ability to fight casually). Desuhiko does have some quick wits though so i can imagine him scaling to Fubuki but yh we can see once you finished. There are a few more speed feats you've yet to see if you ahvent completed

Yeah, no one would scale to Shinigami's actual god powers. Her pact with Yuma only elts him interact with the Labyrinth as far as i know but i'll have to look over a few other chapters.
Queen_Dasania
Yeah, I think Shinigami’s feats only go for her. I think everyone could scale to Yuma when in the maze, just he’s the only one with the pact, so only he can use his weapon, giving him higher ap

Fubuki technically is canonically stated to not be very physically fit/confident. That being said, I do think her feat is only a reaction speed feat, and her reactions could be faster due to her forte. Also though, at times, Yuma reacts faster than she does, including reacting to cars moving at full speed. And you’re right that Halara is definitely above Yuma in speed
Jinx666
Jinx666
I think durability wise they definitely can (for as far as you've gotten into the story), but the pact sharing via Coalescence is still pretty limited yeah. Power in the Mystery Labyrinth in general is all based on knowing the answer to the clues provided

The only way i can see Fubuki maybe not being scaled above from for everyone else is because her Forte may be actively influencing her reaction speed, but thats never purely stated (and there are more bullet timing feats).
I dont know if you failed the QTEs either but Fubuki also reacted to those explosions and used Time Leap to reverse it before the explosion hit. Idk if thats faster than bullets tho but still calcable
Queen_Dasania
I actually did! What’s more noting though is that, unlike in the bullet reaction, they’re frozen in time. It’s very likely imo that they just react to knowing the explosion was about to happen. If you can prove they react after the bomb goes off though, that could actually be a crazy reaction feat
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