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Soldier_Blue
Soldier_Blue
Thank you for the calc.

As for the door thing: That woman - Magna Tolvan - earlier bonked Aphra on the head (she was bloodlusted and out to kill her at the time) and Aphra was still standing. In the Vader Down arc, she and Han ram into each other headfirst and knock each other out, implying they are physical equals.
Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan
Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan
N52 Batman has a feat of kicking a metal door that got 9-A, though that was a really thick door. Still it could get a good number into 9-B.
Soldier_Blue
Soldier_Blue
9-A for just kicking down a door? I've seen 9-A for blasting apart a thin regular metal door (Spider-Man and Star Wars Canon blasters) but not for kicking one down.
Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan
Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan
The kick like completely deformed the door and it was like a thick prison door
Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan
Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan
The 28 kiloJoule end was accepted for Solo's feat
Soldier_Blue
Soldier_Blue
Sweet. 9-B durability Han and 9-B striking strength Lando.

What about the Tolvan door bash down?
Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan
Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan
How tall would she be?
Soldier_Blue
Soldier_Blue
Slightly taller than Dr. Aphra, who is 1.56 metres. I think assuming 1.6 or 1.65 metres is a safe bet.
Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan
Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan

Baseline 9-A huh

crumpling steel badly like that takes a lot of force I guess?
Soldier_Blue
Soldier_Blue
Baseline or higher 9-A cyborg human in Star Wars Canon is not that shocking, given that we have higher-into 9-A un-augmented humans & near humans like Kallus, Thrawn, Krismo Sodi and others. But 9-A Tolvan raises the possibility of Wall level+ or even baseline Small Building level Aphra, Han, Lando, Leia and others.

By the way, there is an instance in the Star Wars Galaxy's Edge comics (issue 1) where Han takes a fall of what looks like multiple storeys, falls on his back onto solid rocky terrain while hitting his head against a metal pole, and gets back up immediately. That'd be 9-B, right?
Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan
Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan
Yeah human falls cap at 9-B unless it's a planet with significantly different gravity or air.

Sequel trilogy peak humans are already 9-A in Star Wars so I don't think there would be outlier issues as long as the math is evaluated and deemed correct. Fits nicely with Mando potentially.

Also Boba Fett had a similar door crumpling feat
Soldier_Blue
Soldier_Blue
9-B Han, Leia, Lando pretty much confirmed.
Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan
Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan
Soldier_Blue
Soldier_Blue
Really?

There is a Class 5 or higher feat for a Clone Commando, but that doesn't count since he's a mutant whose "desirable mutation" was superhuman strength.

Also, Vader once got out of a chokehold by Chewie, who is casually Class 5, which implies Class 5 lifting strength either due to his cybernetics or Force augmentation.
Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan
Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan
I made a mistake with the Solo pole feat and apparently it made it like an order of magnitude higher, nearly 600 kiloJoules
Soldier_Blue
Soldier_Blue
600 Kilojoules?
Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan
Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan
Yeah.

Also semi-relevant but would the Stormtroopers we see in Mando be 9-C or 9-A for their suits?
Soldier_Blue
Soldier_Blue
9-C against physical attacks and 9-A against directed energy weapons. The plastoid composites in Stormtrooper armour are stated to be capable of dispersing the energy of incoming blaster shots, maximizing the survival chances of a Stormtrooper against directed energy weapons. Only military grade hardware (heavy blaster pistols and up) can punch through their plastoid plates (so can some especially powerful holdout/sporting blasters which approach military grade hardware in power).

I don't know what kind of technobabble is involved here, but that is what we have.
Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan
Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan
So only First Order Stormtroopers would be 9-A, right?
Soldier_Blue
Soldier_Blue
I'm doubtful on the 9-A status of FO Stormtrooper armour (at least against physical strikes).

Phasma claimed that their armour can withstand being crumpled by a Wookiee, but immediately after she says so Chewie knocks out a passing FO Stormtrooper with just a slap. There are also instances in the Resistance series of FO Stormtroopers being knocked out by characters who are at best 9-B only.

They do have feats of outright taking blaster pistol and carbine shots, and they can also take hits without a scratch from melee weapons (improvised from mining tools) that are stated to be able to cleave through rock (and also have a feat of lobbing one man's leg off at the thigh).
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