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Oh yeah, definitively need help with that since it is a ton. I'm also looking to get more people to help since stuff like SINoALICE and Reincarnation are there and I don't have means to get everything from them, not to mention the stupid FF14 story that basically makes automata scale to 2A and a ton of broken hax and all the guides that are behind paywalls and the commemorative art books that I have only found like 6 and.....

It's a ton of work

I primarily know about Drakengard 1 and 2, although I finished the original Nier as well. I have some definite concerns about the lack of a Drakengard verse page, the lack of original Nier profiles, and other things. I also noticed some good abilities in the Drakengard games that should be worth adding to the pages. I named some of them in the previous thread.

Regarding the guides, I have a friend who's pretty good at finding things. They might be able to dig up some good stuff.

Edit: there's also a possible power feat in the Drakengard games that could make for an upgrade.

Drakengard on its own is tier 2 with some nice hax, they will get a nice buff once I stop being lazy and start working on it. Nier won't get much of an upgrade except maybe hax and resistances. Getting the guides will be excellent.

I think we should get a discord server to compile all this stuff

Is the Tier 2 via the singularity stuff, or the way the Queen beast controlled time? Or the way Oror appears in the present due to a time distortion that connects Nowe to Oror three years in the past? And the way the Ancient Tomb appears in the present despite being destroyed thousands of years prior? There's also the Grotesqueries operating on a different time flow with the way they randomly move and even fall faster and slower intermittently. Makes parrying their attacks a pain, for sure. And there's also the rooms at the District of Heavenly Time where time moves slower. And the seal that is able to prevent time being twisted into paradoxes. There's plenty of time stuff in Drakengard. At very least the God of the verse has to be Tier 2.

I'll get my buddy to look for the guides. Which exact ones do you want? I already got sent Garden of Light and Drakengard 1.3 by my friend years ago. Nothing much in there. I think they might already have the guides to the first two games actually. I did list some extra abilities in the prior thread as well if you want me to send the list to you here as well.

Because of the flower that is meant to destroy the world and pretty much any timeline (already Low 2-C), queen beast scales to it (along with consuming time to destroy the world which is more Low 2-C) and of course caim and angelus. Zero, Mikhail, Bartas, Grabriel all scale to the very top since a weakened Zero along with Mikhail blasted the black flower, Bartas literally stomped the shit out of them and Gabriel (who idk how to scale) killed Bartas while still not being completely consumed.

Intoners scale above One who is by his own words only a fraction of what his sister was and her power. One brother scales massively above manah who did the island stuff easily, etc, etc. Depowered Zero scales to them.

Singularity is interesting and it pretty much scales to the protagonists of the games since their actions create branches and all that but it isn't something they can use to fight, attack or defend themselves. It's the multiple world theory but only to them. I don't think that can work for the grotesqueries since it needs statements... which is why we need the guides.

Now if we include SINoALICE scaling then they might be somewhere along 2C to 2B and if we use the Final Fantasy raid then 2B and 9S scale to 2A along with Her Inflorescence since it is supposed to be the culmination of all the flowers in all the universes.

We need all the guides, we can squeeze all of them for every single bit of information we can. We also need a source for the tales and side stories, I have them all in PDF but its a fan translation.