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Ottavio_Merluzzo
Ottavio_Merluzzo
WiBC in the New Space Time War Saga is his Pre Amp Self. He gets the amp after the saga has ended (after Fu's defeat).

Crimson doesn't use SSJR against the WiBC before going SSJR3, he uses SSJR2

SSJ WiBC (Pre-Amp) ~= SSJR2 Crimson Masked Saiyan

I'm not convinced about placing Zeno in this scaling, but the rest should be fine. Good job!
Greenshifter
Greenshifter
This scaling chain is not exclusive to NSTW, I might add Jiren too since their battle is described as fierce.

Oh him using 2 is a bit of an issue, but thx for the correction. Is the SSJ3 is 4 times stronger than SSJ2 scan valid?

Me neither but then again, UT-amped Fu should probably be above Zen'o anyways (so he'd end up in the chain anyways) if Hearts' motives make even a lick of sense.

Thanks!
Ottavio_Merluzzo
Ottavio_Merluzzo
Crimson unlocks the forms during the battle in the manga, since he continuously zenkais

It also seems like Pre Amp SSJ WiBC is powerful enough to trigger Crimson's Regen even as a Super Saiyan Rosé 3 (although Crimson doesn't suffer much damage from his blasts)

This wiki doesn't accept that multiplier, idk about CSAP.
Ottavio_Merluzzo
Ottavio_Merluzzo
In the manga, Base Gogeta blocks an attack from Rosé 3 Crimson with a finger btw
Greenshifter
Greenshifter
Ok, thx.

Edit: Oh shit, wait why are they comparable then? Is FP that much stronger?
Ottavio_Merluzzo
Ottavio_Merluzzo
Gogeta turns into a SSB and stomps Rosé 3 Crimson . But then he launches a Kamehameha, Crimson regens and zenkais, unlocking Full Power Rosé.
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