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Eseseso
Ok now I see it in the link at the bottom.
Eseseso
Also, when Killer said that he would've beaten Zoro with his scythes, I think he was most likely referring to his Scythes' soundwave abilities like what he did against Kaido, since he didn't state that he was weakened or anything against Zoro when they had fought.
It helps that Killer drew blood from Pre-Mink Zoro, who as we agreed didn't gain any power or durability boost from his Enma training (which makes sense since the training was literally just for Zoro to master Enma), so he drew blood from Zoro's 1 petaton durability, albeit it was piercing damage and Zoro was distracted by Onimaru when it happened so it's a feat that downscales to Baseline 6-A.
It helps that Killer drew blood from Pre-Mink Zoro, who as we agreed didn't gain any power or durability boost from his Enma training (which makes sense since the training was literally just for Zoro to master Enma), so he drew blood from Zoro's 1 petaton durability, albeit it was piercing damage and Zoro was distracted by Onimaru when it happened so it's a feat that downscales to Baseline 6-A.
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No, his punishers gain greater AP from their spinning ability. He was stronger with them.
This was displayed when he showed an AP based move compared to the attack Zoro used to defeat Killer.
This was displayed when he showed an AP based move compared to the attack Zoro used to defeat Killer.
Eseseso
The difference is that Zoro used Buso Haki to beat Killer, while he didn't use it against Kaido.
But yeah he probably was stronger to at least some extent, just not a massive one, with the Scythes.
But yeah he probably was stronger to at least some extent, just not a massive one, with the Scythes.
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Why does that matter.
It is, he believed he would win with them.
It is, he believed he would win with them.
Eseseso
I checked out your Boa Hancock stuff, would she be scabbard lvl or yonko lvl?
Either way I just really want 6-A Boa
Either way I just really want 6-A Boa
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I'm sure it will all get discussed on sunday.
Eseseso
Ok, so in your best opinion, do you believe that Zoro did or did not use Haki to block the Hakai?
I'm asking since this wiki can't seem to make up it's mind.
His profile says yes, the anime is unclear, it didn't seem like he was using it, especially in this image, and some people like @SnookB (and IIRC @KingTempest) say no.
I'm asking since this wiki can't seem to make up it's mind.
His profile says yes, the anime is unclear, it didn't seem like he was using it, especially in this image, and some people like @SnookB (and IIRC @KingTempest) say no.
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I think he used haki, I wouldn't take the anime 100% when it comes to Buso showing it's not been accurate in the past.
I don't think there's a good narrative reason though for him at that point not to use buso considering he was attempting to stop the attack so the others could escape.
I don't think there's a good narrative reason though for him at that point not to use buso considering he was attempting to stop the attack so the others could escape.
Eseseso
Well the anime is just unclear about it, doesn't seem to support either side.
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Then he probably used buso, the swords are hard to distinguish in both but they're mostly black in the manga.
But narratively it doesn't make sense for him to not use buso in that instance.
But narratively it doesn't make sense for him to not use buso in that instance.
Eseseso
I was thinking the same thing but stuff like that panel I linked above and some of what people have said on this wiki made me unsure.
Like @SnookB: https://vsbattles.com/threads/when-...e-using-any-haki-to-do-so.142007/post-5073469
And @KingTempest : https://vsbattles.com/threads/one-piece-general-discussion-wano-kuni.115795/post-4868790
Like @SnookB: https://vsbattles.com/threads/when-...e-using-any-haki-to-do-so.142007/post-5073469
And @KingTempest : https://vsbattles.com/threads/one-piece-general-discussion-wano-kuni.115795/post-4868790
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I don't think seeing him activate Buso prior to the block is relevant tbh, Zoro doesn't really show that at this point in the story.
I think Tempest was just making a point his feats weren't all due to Enma Haki.
Which blocking the Hakai wouldn't be an Enma Zoro feat due to the lack of aura shown.
I think Tempest was just making a point his feats weren't all due to Enma Haki.
Which blocking the Hakai wouldn't be an Enma Zoro feat due to the lack of aura shown.
Eseseso
1. Ok
2. But King seems to think he didn't use any Haki at all so I'm wondering whether he genuinely thinks Zoro used no Haki.
2. But King seems to think he didn't use any Haki at all so I'm wondering whether he genuinely thinks Zoro used no Haki.