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Maybe I was wrong about Law's Haki here tho not cuz for your reasoning, it's sth i found on the novel.

Is it a bad take to say that most of the Admirals individually>base Kaido or BM in AP?

Nah

Could I make a suggestion about the Logia CTR?

Sure

Aight then!
Kizaru's weakness: "He must leave his light state to physically attack."-This is false as everytime he kicks SB at LS, he turns his foot into light and his lighsaber could clash with Rayleight sword as if it were solid. We know logias can control the force/mass/density of their elemental forms as this is how Smoker can restrain and attack people in gasform.-"Takes a few seconds for him to enter his light state."-He literally isn't any different from other logia, can turn into his element immediatly if he wants to or automatically when catched off-guard.

Wasn't even aware that was on Kizaru's profile, sure I'll add that.

Hey, so is Base Kaido>Bigger Mom just in durability still a thing? It could be useful for sth I'm planning.

Currently yeah

Good to know!

BTW I'm planing to do 3 threads about Emperors & people who fought them like the 1 I made for the Admirals. It's too much content to fit it into just one.

Part 1 didn't end up that good

I think I figured this: Akainu defenetly reacted to Marco+Vista & guarded rather than having passive armament haki all the time. He defenetly heard them shout at Jimbei to get down seeing his great hearing, they came from the front so he should be able to percive their movements like Kizaru can. Aokiji likely has ~ haki to Akainu yet Marco could hit him when he was off-gaurd without Aokiji's body breaking like ice. Katakuri had the "!?" effect too but we know he defentetly had to react to Luffy to use his observation & morph his body around Luffy's hit.

The reason it was accepted for Akainu was the wham sound effect which wasn't present with those who dodged the haki blows.

Supposedly "wham" indicated that their attacks actually made contact rather than passed through and considering the shape Akainu's body is in it does look like he was hit.

There's also the possibility that Marco failed to damage Aokiji and Kizaru as well considering they didn't take damage from his kicks (This is more speculative though)

Ye, I agree he used armament to neg their haki attacks not observation, just that it might not be passive armament & he could turn it on/off.

So if I'm understanding this right, we have the other 2 admirals haki~Marco level at the time of MF but just they're just too durable for him?

Could be that it's not passive then.

What I was implying was that Aokiji and Kizaru may have avoided damage from Marco in the same way that Akainu did, it's just harder to tell.

With Kizaru he turned into his element after Marco sent him flying and walked it off with no damage which would could suggest he did the same thing Akainu did, with Aokiji it's harder to tell since we don't see him after Marco kicked him.

Regarding Crocodile, I was looking through the OP wiki and based off the volume they released for Stampede supposedly Crocodile fought Bullet and the fight ended in a draw. Bullet at that time was supposedly equal to Rayleigh and If this volume's info is canon then It would probably support why Crocodile was chosen to be a warlord based off his strength.

That's awesome! So he really is exactly like Moria: Pretty strong dude, lost to an Emperor, fell off. Do we count the Movie Volumes as cannon? Is Oda involved with them?

Not sure how canon the volumes are, MOL might know tho.

Speaking of the Warlords, I've been working on a little sth: More support about the Warlords being picked for their strength and being used to keep in check the balance

Yep it's pretty well supported, besides the few exceptions like Buggy (Misunderstanding) and Doffy (Blackmail) they're generally supposed to have great strength and renown.

Law getting appointed probably was supported by him being the mastermind behind the "rocky port incident" which seemingly involved a Yonko BB & former Rocks member.