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Udlmaster
Udlmaster
I remember reading in one of the Kindred of the East books that Bodhisattvas, the Greatest of the Kuei Jin are equal to the 4th Generation of Vampires.

Going by what we saw during Week of Nightmares, this seems about right, as 4th generation vampires can put somewhat of a fight against their 3rd gen masters (just that it usually doesn't go well for the 4th gen unless the 3rd gen allows it to happen or something is seriously wrong).

In the case of the Week of Nightmares, the Ante in question is starving for blood and ganged up on the second it woke up.
SheevShezarrine
SheevShezarrine
Also, what sourcebooks can I look at to get descriptions of Traits beyond 5 Dots? For example, Meneleus has something like 8 Dots of Strength, but I got no reference for how strong that actually is, aside from it being some degree higher than the peak human strength of Dot 5
Udlmaster
Udlmaster
IFAIR, Dot 5 and beyond are superhuman strength.

As for traits beyond that, there's a few books which cover playing late game characters, Masters of the Art covers Mage beyond 5th dot.

Not sure off the top of my head which books do it for Werewolf or Vampire
SheevShezarrine
SheevShezarrine
Back to Bodhisattva/Methuselah ratings, how casual was the storm feat? Enough to warrant upscaling? Even with Zapathasura being starved and having just rolled out of bed, the fact that the Bodhisattvas weren't immediately obliterated by them seems like it speaks to their power being way higher than Large Mountain level, given that even a drastically weakened Ante would be downscaling from Planet level at the very least
SheevShezarrine
SheevShezarrine
There's also precedent for Bodhisattvas/Methuselahs downscaling from Antes by way of Mithras fighting Horus (who afaik was weakened) to a standstill, who in turn was able to neuter Set
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