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Could be, but do you have any particular examples of Shang Tsung just one-shotting someone with soul steal from the beginning? I'm curious, I just assumed he had to beat his enemies first.
Clone creation for one, seen in 2, Homecoming and the comics. Animal manipulation due to him summoning and using Creepers to attack. Possibly teleportation. Assimilation, seen in one of the endings of Homecoming. I'm likely leaving something out but I'd have to check some scenes again.
None of those were arguments, the dude just asked why Jago would be more skilled, left the talk before I came in to answer and hasn't made a statement since. The other one is a fallacy too, when has Knuckles fought anyone more experienced and stronger than him and how many times? These points...
That too. Maybe it would make a difference if I gave them spears, they seemed to move faster with them and while they don't have the same feats as the Great Knife they could be seen as equally strong since they're strong enough to kill them when used on themselves.
I don't think so. Yes, he's Wall level + (though I'm still trying to get Pyramid Head's best feat calc'd) but it's from being able to behead Leon and Ada. Now I know power scaling is a funny thing and all that, I just think there's a difference between beheading someone with a freaking chainsaw...
^Pyramid Head's durability can be an object of discussion. To answer your question I think it depends on what you consider tanking, James made him retreat in their first fight but we can't be sure if bullets have that much of an effect on him since he can take more than the other monsters and in...
And you're going to have to understand if from there on the voting isn't taken seriously. I think there's a reasonable cause to simply ignore the votes so far since none had a decent argument to be based on. Not like this thread is moving anyway, been a while since the votes were counted.
I'm not complicating anything, you either debate on the subject or not, else you're the one complicating things by contributing to misinformation, casting a vote on something you don't have enough interest on to tackle completely. You might as well have said you like Knuckles but never heard of...
If you're not using their reasons you might as well just said Knuckles and ditched the fra. If you thought their argument was better then that is your argument but if the argument is proven wrong then you have nothing. So you either present some sort of valid argument yourself or just state that...
I'm using Maverick as a point of reference since everyone after said FRA. You said FRA, for reasons above, and those were the reasons above. So their argument is your argument.
This says otherwise. Honestly, can we actually debate this? We're only backtracking on what you may or may haven't said. Here's some points, Jago has an AP advantage of almost 3 gigatons, has the skill advantage from what I can tell and I'm waiting for an argument on durability for Knuckles.
True but you did ask why Jago would be more skilled and that's what I'm getting at. Skill may be a subjective area but the criteria we're using here points at Jago being superior, he's not just a martial artist, his skills are actually what he relies on more than power, the entire point of the...
Perhaps but it's the argument being used here for Knuckles apparently. We know this of Jago, he has formal training, he can beat enemies based on his skills rather than strength whereas all I've seen of Kncukles in the show is "Punch it, punch it, punch it" and he also has powers that aren't...
Well, if we're being objective you just came and said Knuckles beat a 1,000 year old stronger than him without any references.
The other guy says he's not unused to fighting people stronger than he is and coming out on top but without seeing any track records that suggest that it could be seen...
Yeah, seems legit.
On terms of skill I'm thinking of their accomplishments rather than their age. We don't know how old Justice is but we do know that he was skilled enough to kill Rokutaro who was a top tier of the verse from what we hear later and the corpses in the throne room show that he...
It actually does hold a few connections to the main story from what I gathered in the wiki but that's beyond the point because the Silent Hill pages are desperately in need of some serious work and it doesn't help that I noticed just now that we have the forum move going on.
I don't doubt that...
Playing Devil's advocate here but most of those are a given when it comes to putting a hunter vs a monster. I think Pyramid Head does have some other advantages such as being much more durable and resilient even compared to other monsters in the game, plus his strength, I think if you saw his...
^Maybe, I think there's a lot to re-evaluate here before calling a win because these were literally the only arguments:
"Knuckles beat a guy who was over 1000 and stronger than him"
"Knuckles FRA. He's not unused to facing people stronger and more experienced than him and coming out in top."...
You said it, he was pretty much reduced to charcuterie and mush, while we don't have an indicator of how long it took him to come together we know he came back in one piece. Even before that, during the fight his head was cut from his body and left hanging from a few patches of skin but he still...
What makes the AP negligible? As for your argument of Knuckles fighting a thousand-year-old, imo the same could be said about Jago fighting much more ancient characters in the cast like Gargos or Eyedol. I do agree that age doesn't equal skill but Jago still has the edge there, he has fought the...
^Justice is Building level scaling from Afro, Black is Large Building level scaling from tarkatans, Cassie and Kung Jin. I guess that point goes to Black but it depends on how cool you are with the scaling. Not sure if he can get past Justice's regen though but I'm open to arguments.
Alright but FRA means for reasons above and no one had commented. If you're serious then could you at least elaborate and make a decent argument so I can add the vote?
Thought it would be more balanced if I used the remake version of Leon.
Both 9-B.
Leon has full equipment excluding anything above 9-B like rocket launcher, Pyramid Head has the Great Knife, his clone and a swarm of creepers at his disposal.
They fight in the police station, starting at 10...
Priority: At least 2 (Scales to a number of monsters that are above Pyramid Head such as Valtiel in his other incarnations).
Verse: Silent Hill
Feat: Pyramid Head cuts through, bends and then violently pushes apart a steel door
I'd like to know the lifting strength and kinetic energy needed...