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  1. Deagonx

    Significance of history and destructive potential in a certain level of forces

    I believe that was specified here: Damage and Bambu both agreed with this.
  2. Deagonx

    Dark Samus/Metroid Prime (creature) Revision

    Simple enough, agree with the removal. Agree. I don't see a clear basis for scaling. Agreed. Drawing from a power source doesn't automatically justify scaling to the power source. If someone can use magic, and we know there's some giant reservoir of magic that all mages draw from to do magic...
  3. Deagonx

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    As an aside, this is a very dense thread with many scans to be discussed, concerning some of the more complex aspects of our tiering system. The proposal is controversial, and it has the potential to be exceedingly long. For that reason, I am going to be a bit stricter on unnecessary comments...
  4. Deagonx

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    The reasoning is unclear to me, so before any argumentation takes place let me make sure I understand the facts such as they are being framed, and how it is being reasoned that they lead to your conclusions. If I miss something let me know. Scan 1: A PoC avatar who's weapons are described...
  5. Deagonx

    The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 5⌋ [Reactive Evolution Edition!]

    @Mr. Bambu @Firestorm808 @Maverick_Zero_X @DarkGrath @Ultima_Reality @Everything12 @AbaddonTheDisappointment This one is a bit more complex, but if you can find the time to dig into it and give your thoughts it'd be appreciated. As always, feel free to ignore the ping if you're uninterested.
  6. Deagonx

    Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

    Personally, I am not comfortable adjudicating the off-site comments given a lack of clarity surrounding the circumstances as they pertain to Garrixian's conduct, which have the potential to drastically alter my perception of what was said. Given that those matters are very sensitive and being...
  7. Deagonx

    General DC Comics Discussion Thread

    Ahh, I see. Well that wouldn't convert to a lifting strength feat until we knew the force anyways. But since we do have the force we can just skip the calcing from PSI and go directly to what the force is.
  8. Deagonx

    General DC Comics Discussion Thread

    The Lifting Strength page references force, not force over area. "Lifting Strength measures the amount of mass they can lift, which is determined by the amount of force a character can produce." The table also references newtons, not PSI. I agree Dick doesn't scale, but even if he did it would...
  9. Deagonx

    General DC Comics Discussion Thread

    I understand. Hagane was proposing that it could be converted to "Class M" which is a measure of force. I imagine it might be something along the lines of calculating the full area of an Orca's mouth and multiplying the 19k value over that entire area, but I don't know the specifics. My main...
  10. Deagonx

    General DC Comics Discussion Thread

    I don't know how that conversion works, but there is no conceivable way for an animal that size to produce that much energy. Like, not even remotely close. This article estimates the Orca's bite force in Newtons at 85k. It references other animals like the Australian saltwater crocodile at 12k...
  11. Deagonx

    The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 5⌋ [Reactive Evolution Edition!]

    Okay. I guess I'm not seeing what is supposed to be a visual indicator of absorption. It mostly looks like they're just hitting the enemies around Kratos and killing them with physical damage.
  12. Deagonx

    General DC Comics Discussion Thread

    How was that calc'd? Are we saying real life orcas have Class M jaws? That seems kind of ridiculous.
  13. Deagonx

    The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 5⌋ [Reactive Evolution Edition!]

    This example is very confusing. In this gif, it looks more like the arms are just fighting on Kratos' behalf, not that he is resisting their effects. He wasn't as insane as that prisoner who was the very first person the Furies took and have been torturing, that's normal given he hasn't been...
  14. Deagonx

    The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 5⌋ [Reactive Evolution Edition!]

    Agreed. The theory has some clear logical errors outlined above, and it's based on a series of inferences instead of any direct evidence. Moreover, it's clear that the water of the Styx itself does not have these effects, but rather the souls themselves. Agreed, there are more logical errors...
  15. Deagonx

    The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 5⌋ [Reactive Evolution Edition!]

    I can take a look later when I'm off work.
  16. Deagonx

    Dragon Ball's Main Cannon Timeline number downgrade

    The arguments in the OP make sense to me
  17. Deagonx

    The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 4⌋

    No rush. I'll close this now.
  18. Deagonx

    Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

    Both sides of this matter are best handled in the private report forum, both the reported user (as it pertains to off-site messages) and the claims of Garrixian calling someone slurs.
  19. Deagonx

    The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 4⌋

    Of course, but we don't. We have showings the threads being able to affect people, but nothing showing that this is a form of causality manipulation rather than just a magical tie between the two things.
  20. Deagonx

    The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 4⌋

    There isn't any evidence that the threads are imbued with causality manipulation. You are interpreting the threads as "decreeing any effects for a cause" but that's just a theory, we are never told that this is the mechanism for it.
  21. Deagonx

    Captain Atom resistance to Statistical Analysis

    I'm leaning more towards this. I'm not sure "Resistance to Statistical Analysis" makes a lot of sense In this scan I'm not sure what is meant to indicated that he isn't effected by it. Midnighter doesn't seem surprised even when Atom grabs him from behind by the collar, he calmly instructs...
  22. Deagonx

    The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 4⌋

    I don't think that's the most logical interpretation, personally. I am more inclined to think of it as being akin to voodoo in the sense of an object that is tethered to something else. More importantly, this line of thinking makes the whole arrangement somewhat strange. If the Fates simply...
  23. Deagonx

    The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 4⌋

    This is just a chain reaction, not causality manip. That'd be like saying causality manip is the reason that the death of Franz Ferdinand sparked World War 1. It's true that the threads have effects on people, but this isn't evidence of causality manip. We aren't told that the mechanism is...
  24. Deagonx

    The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 4⌋

    There isn't evidence that the Fates are capable of changing what effect a cause has. All we know is that they pluck the strings. We are never told that the mechanism for manipulating events is due to causality manip or probability manip.
  25. Deagonx

    The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 4⌋

    Causing something to happen isn't causality manip. The way you're describing this makes it sound as though you think that actions which result in outcomes through cause and effect is indicative of causality manip. But that is simply how actions work. Fating something to happen doesn't require...
  26. Deagonx

    The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 4⌋

    @Mr. Bambu @DarkGrath @Firestorm808 @CrimsonStarFallen @Maverick_Zero_X @Armorchompy Another simple set of revisions. Feel free to ignore the ping if you're busy/not interested.
  27. Deagonx

    The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 4⌋

    What action specifically are you proposing meets this criteria and how?
  28. Deagonx

    The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 4⌋

    Agreed, if this is the only justification in his profile, easy removal. Yes, this is just a reflection of her role in the process, not BFR by any means. Agreed. Straightforward. Agreed, nothing indicates that they are "creating possibilities." Yep, all just fate manip. Agreed.
  29. Deagonx

    Bill Cipher: It's finally time for Tier 1

    No, I was explaining the standards. I was not agreeing that QS has been proven in this case.
  30. Deagonx

    Bill Cipher: It's finally time for Tier 1

    What did I concede on and when?
  31. Deagonx

    Bill Cipher: It's finally time for Tier 1

    I haven't seen any evidence that the Nightmare Realm contains other dimensions. Only that it is between other dimensions and acts as a gateway. This confirms what I'm saying: Being called a "higher plane" is irrelevant. If you can prove that the plane has Qualitiative Superiority, that's fine...
  32. Deagonx

    Bill Cipher: It's finally time for Tier 1

    I think we're speaking parallel to each other here. I agree with what you're saying.
  33. Deagonx

    Bill Cipher: It's finally time for Tier 1

    You hurt your own argument with the fluff. Two out of the four additional pieces of info are the same (that it's infinite in size) and have nothing to do with being higher dimensional. The higher plane statement isn't helpful. So really we have one more piece of info which is an illustration of...
  34. Deagonx

    Bill Cipher: It's finally time for Tier 1

    Given that he's talking about college courses he took, I am not sure it's even a given that the dimensions necessarily refer to the nightmare realm rather than something in their native dimension. If he studied this in college for three semesters and could've taken more classes, and if the...
  35. Deagonx

    Bill Cipher: It's finally time for Tier 1

    I'm not sure what you mean. What kind of elaboration could be provided beyond what I've said, with regard to a scan that says very little? My stance is pretty straightforward. The argument in favor of the upgrade is that the reference to Fifth Dimensional Calculus can be inferred to mean that...
  36. Deagonx

    Bill Cipher: It's finally time for Tier 1

    I'm not opposed to the idea that it's geometric, but the context is really fuzzy. I don't think it necessarily implies the NR itself is 5-D or tells us enough about the nature of the dimensions such that we could scale it to someone in the series necessarily.
  37. Deagonx

    Bill Cipher: It's finally time for Tier 1

    I don't love the way the information is presented. Being called a "higher plane" isn't helpful, and I am not as persuaded about the optical illusions being evidence of higher spatial dimensions. The "Fifth-Dimensional Calculus" reference with regard to building the portal device seems better...
  38. Deagonx

    Bill Cipher: It's finally time for Tier 1

    The "existing in 7 to 11 dimensions at once" appears to more naturally refer to universes IMO. Especially as he is describing what creatures have that skeleton shape, which would appear to be a relatively normal skeleton. In absence of further context I don't think it's strong enough evidence to...
  39. Deagonx

    LET US BRING SHINZA BACK Part 1

    This is a good point, and similarly the one piece of info that I do have about the verse is that its a Tier™ verse and it does make more sense to wait for that to become clearer before any CRTs are made.
  40. Deagonx

    LET US BRING SHINZA BACK Part 1

    So, I don't personally have any knowledge of this verse at all, with regard to the media itself or what it was like here on the wiki/forum. Further, I am not familiar with what sort of criteria we employ with regard to deleting or reinstating verses. I will remain neutral for now until there is...
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