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  1. Agnaa

    The necessity of Neutral/Opponents on a Verse page?

    I already have. Reread my posts. There's no other way I'll engage with people who repeatedly badger me over things I've already explained.
  2. Agnaa

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    MWI only upgrades to Low 1-C if we know that a branching timeline is created for every instant. Things like "for every being, of which an infinite number exist" or "for every event" don't qualify, since they'd only create a countably infinite amount.
  3. Agnaa

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    The space that separates them isn't necessarily infinite. If the timelines have a size of 0 on the 5-D axis, then an infinite amount of them can be contained in an arbitrarily small interval. Still, this arbitrarily small interval would have to extend infinitely across four dimensions, to...
  4. Agnaa

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    I know, but because we know that it is only countably infinitely bigger than the human world at best (really, I'd say that the manga scan implies that they're comparably large), it cannot be of a significant 5-D size. It's like, you don't need a statement of being uncountably infinitely bigger...
  5. Agnaa

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    No. Any continued talk about vague hypotheticals unrelated to DMC's current tiering will be considered derailing, and be deleted.
  6. Agnaa

    The necessity of Neutral/Opponents on a Verse page?

    I disagree, and for the most part, I've already addressed the stuff you said; I don't think there's much point in continuing.
  7. Agnaa

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    I can imagine cases where that doesn't lead to a tier jump - perhaps the text explicitly states that the higher world is 100x as strong - but generally that should be more than enough.
  8. Agnaa

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    Disagree with everything I've seen so far. So that's hypertimeline stuff, demon world being a tier jump, timeline being a tier jump, and multiverse being a tier jump.
  9. Agnaa

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    It could mean: That there is a difference in power between them, but that the difference is small, rather than uncountably infinite. It could be thematic/evocative, rather than representing anything literal within the cosmology. It could represent something in the cosmology unrelated to power...
  10. Agnaa

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    Y'know what, that's fair. It only contradicts arguments of the "this realm is intrinsically superior" variety, not arguments about it being vast (i.e. infinitely large in 5 dimensions, or having extra temporal dimensions). My bad for not thinking that through.
  11. Agnaa

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    No it doesn't. Or at least, it doesn't any more than "stronger" would; it's slightly indicative, and might be paired with it, but is still far, far from being useful. Why would it be an accomplishment if it's something literally anyone from his realm could do with zero effort? Why would it be...
  12. Agnaa

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    "Lower and upper realms" is far from actually implying a dimensional difference by itself. Then there's the fact that his invasion was considered a feat, instead of something that literally anyone in the demon realm could do with zero effort, which implies that the human realm isn't actually...
  13. Agnaa

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    That would likely be evidence for it being higher-tiered. There's some cases where it could not be, and it'd have to be weighed against the contrary statement of the ray of light in endless darkness, but if that is said consistently in a qualifying way, then ofc it'd lead to a higher tier.
  14. Agnaa

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    It does; if the Human World is countably infinitely smaller than the Demon World, that means that they're of a similar size difference, which is not enough to jump tiers. If it's infinite and contains infinite-sized 4D structures, and isn't uncountably infinitely bigger than those...
  15. Agnaa

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    I don't think we can just ignore that other information. The ray of light comparison has it not being insignificant enough to result in a tier-jump. Other similar claims with less context don't override that.
  16. Agnaa

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    I think that's a bad interpretation. It compares that endless darkness to a timeline, and says the timeline has finite size, so it couldn't be referring to a fifth spatial axis. Fun Fact: An object/space can be infinite in some directions but not in others.
  17. Agnaa

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    Oh okay I get it now. idk exactly why it works, but you can squeeze countably infinitely many numbers between 0 and 1 with the sequence of "1 divided by each of the positive integers", and a trivial alteration of that lets you do that with arbitrarily small intervals. My bad. Looking at prior...
  18. Agnaa

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    It is fundamentally impossible to displace infinitely many objects across a dimension without displacing it across an infinite amount of that dimension. If the 2-A displacement is considered insignificant, then an infinite displacement cannot be significant, as that is what 2-A entails. Then I...
  19. Agnaa

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    You're not understanding my invocations of 2-A. Your argument goes: There are timelines. The separation between them is 5-D. There is an infinite amount of this separation across the multiverse. Therefore, this multiverse is significantly 5-D, qualifying for Low 1-C. But that argument can be...
  20. Agnaa

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    No. You're extrapolating in a way which those pages don't explicitly say, in a way which would, if taken seriously, make 2-A and Low 1-C the exact same tiers. It is obviously not currently accepted. As said above, this is obviously wrong, as this reasoning would make every 2-A series Low 1-C...
  21. Agnaa

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    No, that is simply not how we treat temporal dimensions. Otherwise literally any invocation of dimensions would automatically qualify, because literally every verse features at least one temporal dimension. (The underlying reason being, if the 5-D space isn't superior to 3-D space in any way...
  22. Agnaa

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    And that'd be silly, because the space between timelines within a 2-A structure would be infinite (as any non-infinitesimal separation multiplied by infinity would become infinite). That sort of argument just fundamentally doesn't line up with our tiering system as-is. A multiverse containing...
  23. Agnaa

    Trinity Seven Major Revision Part 1

    Can confirm that MTL isn't allowed. idk what thread there is about this, but it's been common practice for ages.
  24. Agnaa

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    That's false. For a structure to be qualifyingly 5-D, it needs to be uncountably infinitely larger than 4-D constructs. A comparison of a ray of light to an endless expanse is, at best, countably infinitely bigger. As far as I can tell, you were already told this, so idk why you're bringing it...
  25. Agnaa

    Light Manipulation via Flashlights

    Maybe this is just survivorship bias; everyone who tested it and blinded themselves can't respond....
  26. Agnaa

    Light Manipulation via Flashlights

    Guess I just resist light manip then, idk.
  27. Agnaa

    Light Manipulation via Flashlights

    I just flashed this flashlight in my eyes from arms-length away. It says it emits 1,200 lumens. I was not "temporarily blinded". It appeared bright, but I could still see in and around it. I had a small (arms-length pinkie) sized lingering bright spot for a few minutes, but that's about it. Can...
  28. Agnaa

    Light Manipulation via Flashlights

    If something provides 1000 lumens on something eye-sized from 1 meter away, that means it provides the equivalent of 16 lumens on something eye-sized from 8 meters away. Without the additional information of where that lumen amount is taken, we can't really determine whether it's useful in a...
  29. Agnaa

    Light Manipulation via Flashlights

    That link says that, however.... This link doesn't, and this link you provided earlier: Says that 10-20 lumens is used for searching for things up to 100 meters away, and that 20-150 is for basic household/outdoor activities, and searching things up to 120 meters away. That sounds a lot more...
  30. Agnaa

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    Then all those evaluations are wrong; we do have sufficiently clear standards in this section of the FAQ. You must give priority to that information when evaluating CRTs. Timelines containing timelines isn't enough; it needs to be established as a separate temporal dimension that time could...
  31. Agnaa

    Light Manipulation via Flashlights

    For one thing, a lot of those numbers seem like absolute bullshit (there's no way they're selling a 2.5 mil lumen flashlight for $25; 10,000 lumens can cause permanent blindness), for another thing, you're going off saying "tactical". You're generalising way too hard here. I can't have a...
  32. Agnaa

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    I heard the very concerning claim that a staff member was accepting a CRT based on supposed precedent of DB, despite instruction pages clearly disagreeing with that reasoning. That seemed like a very simple thing to evaluate (it only requires looking at the basis for one specific claim, and a...
  33. Agnaa

    Light Manipulation via Flashlights

    Sorry but I can't believe you're arguing in good faith if you're doing this, so I won't keep providing counterarguments.
  34. Agnaa

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    That is not about the current topic, hypertimelines, it's about when physical separation between spaces creates bigger multiverses. So the blog does not address the FAQ in relation to the topic at hand, unless you have another section in mind. Do you?
  35. Agnaa

    Light Manipulation via Flashlights

    So your arguments for a flashlight being a weapon while a lighter isn't are: Sometimes an opponent will specifically be weak to it. Sometimes the environment (which is not standard SBA) will have it be useful. If used up-close in a specific environment it can cause a temporary issue (remember...
  36. Agnaa

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    Tell me exactly where that blog addresses the FAQ's requirement for hypertimelines. Since I've looked over the blog myself but can't find that.
  37. Agnaa

    Light Manipulation via Flashlights

    We generally treat projection as a subset of manipulation; we only have that as a separate ability for energy since energy projection is very common, and typically used without also having energy manipulation.
  38. Agnaa

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    Isn't the current topic about hypertimelines? That section's about a ray of light splitting unending darkness.
  39. Agnaa

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    Please clarify exactly where the blog addresses it, since I can't see that.
  40. Agnaa

    Light Manipulation via Flashlights

    You too homie. You're arguing that every single flashlight should be treated as a weapon just because specialised riot police flashlights exist; ignoring the supplied counter-argument of "it's not like a flamethrower, it's more like a lighter". I've shined enough flashlights in my eyes as a...
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