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eQuAl EfFoRt Is UnCeRtAiN
Mark at this point of the series is as strong if not stronger than Nolan. Also why would Thaedus risk his life going through the planet if he wasn't going to contribute anything and Nolan was actually doing all the work himself?
Yeah the fight itself is absolutely incredible.
It also helps that GVS3 actually gave competent reasoning for the outcome. The first one had the most disgusting downplay for Goku ever (such as unironically claiming he can't scale to people he beat like Frieza). The second one just pulled a NLF...
This is also why I can't take the "Death Battle always uses the highest ends" defense for their atrocious Omni-Man scaling serious. If they were consistent with this highballing method and gave Bardock the same treatment they gave Omni-Man, Bardock would've still won.
*Bardock normally wins
*They the wank the hell out of Bardock even further
*Then they also wank the hell out of Omni-Man to give him an undeserved victory
This just results in an analysis that’s awful on every front lmao
Oh yeah Bardock’s scaling was whack too. They had to make some weird composite because he has so few feats on his own. (They could’ve just stuck with him fighting Gas in the manga though. But that means they’d have to use the version of him people don’t like nearly as much lol)
But I’m mostly...
Most of r/Invincible disagrees with the result and thinks Death Battle oversold Omni-Man lol
Also no not quite. The argument is that a space gun that previously destroyed a star only destabilized Viltrum's core. Meaning they think Viltrum is tougher than stars. Since absolutely nothing suggests...
Yeah nothing like that is in place with planet Viltrum. There's no "stream of magical energy" and no "higher dimensional gobbledygook" in play. It's just a planet (albeit one most likely bigger than earth due to its ring and multiple moons).
Death Battle be like "Homer scales cause he's stronger than Maggie who killed Mr. Burns who made the sun disk. Also also Mr. Burns can press the button without breaking his hand."
Kirkman doesn't scale. He, like basically all normal people, goes purely off of "vibes" when judging a character's strength. Early Invincible doesn't "feel" as tough or savage as Homelander does, whereas Blue Suit Invincible is a menace.
Kinda off topic but Antony Starr gives the same "he doesn't hold back" argument for Homelander beating Superman. And even giving Homelander or Invincible the benefit of the doubt, I still just don't get it. Why do people think Superman has no experience fighting people on his level who don't...
That has absolutely nothing to do with what I'm saying at all. Saturn sized planets don't have "above star level toughness" either. I'm fine with them saying Viltrum is bigger than earth, but not with the idea that it's a "Star Level planet"
Why can't I just say that the star that the Space Ray destroyed was a "weak star" because it got destroyed by a beam that couldn't even fully destroy a planet? It's equally as nonsensical and not at all supported in the text as the idea of Viltrum being some super saiyan planet that's tougher...
Anyways I think the Space Ray "only" destabilizing Planet Viltrum's core is more of a plot hole/anti-feat for the Space Ray than it is an indication that this planet is somehow inexplicably "tougher" than a star. This is like the "Universe Level Ice" meme people make about Dragon Ball but being...
I mean not really cause it was the expected outcome of that match up lol
I’m just glad Death Battle didn’t shit the bed with her analysis like they’ve done with so many others
Since no one asked
1. Wank Boros to Star Level thanks to the anime guidebook (ignore that this is most likely a mistranslation and all the other sources say Boros's attack was either planet or planet surface destroying)
2. Use an audiobook chapter where a simulation of Saitama from today...
You really can't. They say in no uncertain terms that they need the core destabilized otherwise this will kill them. The best you can really do is say that you should just discard the anti-feat and go with the highest end. But I personally don't really agree with that mentality when this...
Ryuko Matoi. In my personal opinion the outcome was correct, they got her AP just right and only kinda downplayed her speed (not that it would've mattered in her match up.) Obviously you can get her way higher if you use KLK: IF scaling, but they explicitly said they weren't using that.
I think Omni-Man is a much better written character than Bardock (Bardock‘s still cooler though) and my literal favorite character in all of fiction lost a Death Battle and I didn’t mind cause they did their stats justice.
I’m just upset with this episode because the research was complete and utter
Gonna take a guess and say super highballed interpretation of the earthquake punch and/or taking “Oliva shook the world” out of context + Baki’s “faster than light” jab
Boomstick: Gee wiz this Omni-Man vs Bardock match up sure is a head scratcher. Who should we consult for this episode’s research?
Ben: I know just the guy for the job…