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  1. ParadoxIndifferent

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    I agree with Kep just to be perfectly clear. And if we do remove Omnipresence, his Higher-D existence is still perfectly and undeniably valid.
  2. ParadoxIndifferent

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    Omnipresence has been sourced countless times by now. Mechikabura's essence encompassed all the timelines he was absorbing, and he was about to consume the entire multiverse. In order to stop Mechikabura, they had to seal all the timelines he had absorbed, proving he was one with them. The only...
  3. ParadoxIndifferent

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    It's not about increasing the size of his body. Stop missing the point.
  4. ParadoxIndifferent

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    It's important noting that Mechikabura didn't manage to reach his peak; he was halted before he could absorb the entire Dragon Ball multiverse. This is why they were able to escape his area of influence (since he hadn't absorbed all existence just yet). However, he was confirmedly going to...
  5. ParadoxIndifferent

    Timeless Voids Standards Issues (Staff only)

    > Using the DeLorean for an example. It doesn't have immeasurable speed not solely because it clearly isn't that fast normally, but its time traveling aspect is not a speed feat. Off-topic, but why wouldn't something like the DeLorean have Immeasurable speed specifically when time-traveling...
  6. ParadoxIndifferent

    Four Giants Major Downgrade

    Termina is a parallel universe in the sense that the inhabitants there mirror Hyrule's, not that everything is identical. The Light World's moon was not shown to possess a face. And I don't deny that much.
  7. ParadoxIndifferent

    Four Giants Major Downgrade

    As an unbiased Zelda fan, it's kinda asinine to say the size that Termina's moon appears in in every single shot, concept art or depiction is "out-of-scale game mechanics". If they wanted to convey it being a normal-sized moon, they'd probably have just drawn it to scale at least once. No one...
  8. ParadoxIndifferent

    Timeless Voids Standards Issues (Staff only)

    If this revision is accepted then there will be no valid timeless void feats.
  9. ParadoxIndifferent

    Heroes and Xenoverse speed revisited

    This is more so good evidence that Toki-Toki sustains the whole multiverse as opposed to Type 2, but we shall see what Zenkai comes up with.
  10. ParadoxIndifferent

    Timeless Voids Standards Issues (Staff only)

    He wasn't aggressive. Don't be over-sensitive.
  11. ParadoxIndifferent

    Tier 3-A/Low 2-C Saint Seiya Ap Revisions (Gold Saints, and Scaling)

    What's with accusing anyone who disagrees of being biased?
  12. ParadoxIndifferent

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 3

    I hope this is concluded soon.
  13. ParadoxIndifferent

    Possible Dragonball upgrades

    Goku was lifting massive castle towers and throwing gigantic boulders as a Great Ape ever since before he could even control his ki. That's far higher than just 40 tons
  14. ParadoxIndifferent

    Eternity Seventh Cosmos 1-A upgrade

    Maybe we should make "retcon" or "continuity" keys for the abstracts who undoubtedly need them?
  15. ParadoxIndifferent

    Regarding Cross Verse Scaling

    So basically, if a character whose best feats are Tier 7 were to be compared to a Tier 4 character, we should accept it because there's no evidence saying otherwise? Wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum. It's not going to be a universal example. Appealing to the most extreme scenarios to...
  16. ParadoxIndifferent

    Regarding Cross Verse Scaling

    An absence of feats does not invalidate the secondary evidence. If anything, it shows that there are no contradiction to the general idea, thus indirectly strengthening it. Death of the Author should only be evoked if the statement is contradicted or is wildly out of scale with the shown feats...
  17. ParadoxIndifferent

    Regarding Cross Verse Scaling

    > specially because Garou has no feat even close to Boros' scale. What anti-feats does Garou have to invalidate the Word of God statement putting him on Boros's level?
  18. ParadoxIndifferent

    The Vs. Battles Wiki Problem

    I actually agree with you, for once, that it'd be immensely better to postpone discussion on this rather inconveniently timed thread up until the forum was moved.
  19. ParadoxIndifferent

    Eternity Seventh Cosmos 1-A upgrade

    That the Tribunal doesn't have a "true form" transcending Eternity.
  20. ParadoxIndifferent

    Regarding Cross Verse Scaling

    I disagree with the cross-verse scaling, but agree with Ryuu on the Boros and Garou stuff.
  21. ParadoxIndifferent

    Eternity Seventh Cosmos 1-A upgrade

    Let's drop this "true essence" headcanon as well. The Superflow form of the Adam Warlock is his true form, as explicitly stated in the story.
  22. ParadoxIndifferent

    Eternity Seventh Cosmos 1-A upgrade

    It's the other way around, as far as the evidence is concerned. The idea that the universal hierarchy carries over to the multiversal hierarchy is also completely unbacked. Eternity's true form isn't even part of the hierarchy, as shown in the Ultimates.
  23. ParadoxIndifferent

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 3

    This should be concluded. I really see no way to argue around this anymore.
  24. ParadoxIndifferent

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 3

    Hykuu has stated on Discord that he still disagrees, but that he'd probably forget his initial anger over 1-A Thor within a week or so. So I don't think we will be seeing much more of him in this thread anymore, only Matt. Take from that what you will.
  25. ParadoxIndifferent

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 3

    No, it clearly doesn't. It's just a gateway/hole leading to the outside space that is Ginnungagap, nothing else. Ginnungagap literally can't be "between" Muspelheim and Niflheim, since you yourself admit that it's void outside all Nine Realms, which would include being outside those two realms.
  26. ParadoxIndifferent

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 3

    The Full Outside is the same thing as Ginnungagap. It's all the void before and fter existence, just different interpretations of it that shift depending on who is talking about it. Your argument is the same thing me saying "the universe of the Greek Gods is different from the full universe"
  27. ParadoxIndifferent

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 3

  28. ParadoxIndifferent

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 3

    We are outside. In the great, dark nothing. From the story Al Ewing wrote literally four months after this one, Ultimates. I can't believe we're now discussing the color of an adimensional void as if it mattered.
  29. ParadoxIndifferent

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 3

    By the way, my post here with the rebuttals has yet to receive any responses.
  30. ParadoxIndifferent

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 3

    I would really, really, really love it if we went back to the point: rational debate, instead of random fist-tossing.
  31. ParadoxIndifferent

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 3

    Thank you, Bambu.
  32. ParadoxIndifferent

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 3

    You know, I'm actually not unable to accept the idea that I might be wrong about Thor. That we might be wrong. Neither is Kep, having talked to him about it in private. We just feel that you guys' way of handling it is shady as all hell, being triggered by this thread's continuous existence and...
  33. ParadoxIndifferent

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 3

    And did I say anything about the VSBW Discord being "relevant" to this discussion? I simply said that I am a well known regular user and brought it up to counteract Ant's slight-handed jab at my honesty.
  34. ParadoxIndifferent

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 3

    You can ask literally any staff member who I regularly interact with, such as Wokistan, Ultima, Cal, Darkgrath, Promestein, and everyone else who knows me from Discord, and they'll confirm that I am a regular user, as real and reasonable as any other, and that the hacking incident affected me...
  35. ParadoxIndifferent

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 3

    > You and the other people backing Kepekley up, other than Ultima, have barely even been active in the wiki outside of this discussio I'm extremely active in the VSBW Discord, and most staff members and regular users are familiar with me as a result. > The last I saw you before this, Kepekley...
  36. ParadoxIndifferent

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 3

    At this point, just leave the thread if it tires you out so much. Something I heavily doubt: you have barely contributed much other than agreeing with people's arguments, and I heavily doubt your short responses to my posts have done remotely anything to "completely tire out and waste your time"...
  37. ParadoxIndifferent

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 3

    And ' you actually end up responding to my post; tag me or somehin since I'll be going to sleep soon.
  38. ParadoxIndifferent

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 3

    The judgement of closing the thread or not doesn't lie with Ant or anyone else. Especially not now that more and more people are participating in both sides.
  39. ParadoxIndifferent

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 3

    > Thirdly. It doesn't matter if you think the post has more context or not. Comments like "Yeah, the upgrade seems more logical by the minute guys!" are nothing but attempts to build measely morale to stir the thread in one direction or another. They are not arguments. Unless they're backing up...
  40. ParadoxIndifferent

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 3

    Finally back home after a trip to the pizzeria. Now, let me address the elephant in the room. One thing I'm glad with is that you have finally decided to get rid of the snark in your tone and the accusations against my honesty. That said, your post still suffers from a major case of you...
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